Beef banned in Maharashtra, 5 yrs jail for possession or sale

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the beef-traders association is already preparing to go to the court.

and apart from J&K, atleast Rajasthan (and MP too i think, though beef used to be available there in some areas in restaurants publicly till a couple of years back; don't know about now) have a total ban. some other states have what may be termed as 'blanket ban'.
well beef traders association have every right to go to court.

Aside from the legality of such legislation, it is funny to see the outrage people seem to be pouring in without looking at the existing law. Its even in the op - acche din for gau mata? Really? As the story posted says - "The slaughter of cows was previously prohibited in the state under the Maharashtra Animal Preservation Act of 1976". So the "gau mata" is already in the clear since 1976, what does it have to do with the current law? I am wondering what low we can touch to actually put acche din......for every news item which comes out.
 
hehe. don't mind. it's just a fad. it would live its course. one of my friends uses that quote for almost every other thing that happens (even to him), good or not-so-good. tells that the present govt. atleast marketed itself very well for the phrase to stick to the public's psyche, and may be said to be somewhat 'symbolic' of the alliance's decisive victory. (compare this to) all the 'yuva josh' & 'hamaara haath iske-uske pata nahin kiske saath' & whatever the third-front might've come up with, all fizzled out!

and yes, the furore is somewhat surprising (not in the context of the OP or its title), as such bans have been in place in other states too since long. though what may've led to the uproar could be the 'rumour' of a total ban (even though the ban is said to have exclusions). just wait a day or two more. another sensationalised news, and the attention will be diverted elsewhere. the BBC interview and AAP issues are already here to demand our frisky attention & pander to our scandal-mongering habit & restlessness.
 
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am wondering what low we can touch to actually put acche din......for every news item which comes out.
the way we see comments like "Darude- Sandstorm" under every music video on YouTube. hahaha
 
the beef-traders association is already preparing to go to the court.

and apart from J&K, atleast Rajasthan (and MP too i think, though beef used to be available there in some areas in restaurants publicly till a couple of years back; don't know about now) have a total ban. some other states have what may be termed as 'blanket ban'.
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Consider karnataka they passed thier total ban bill sin both houses back in 2008. The president never gave her assent. SO even though you could say there is a total ban as early as 2008, it did not change the status quo. For a couple of months there was a flutter and that was it.

its curious pranab would give his assent to this bill, wonder what the thinking behind it is.
 
well beef traders association have every right to go to court.

Aside from the legality of such legislation, it is funny to see the outrage people seem to be pouring in without looking at the existing law. Its even in the op - acche din for gau mata? Really? As the story posted says - "The slaughter of cows was previously prohibited in the state under the Maharashtra Animal Preservation Act of 1976". So the "gau mata" is already in the clear since 1976, what does it have to do with the current law? I am wondering what low we can touch to actually put acche din......for every news item which comes out.
Criminalising possession. Why the outrage? because it introduces unecessary FUD without clarifications. You certainly won't see anywhere as many headlines on articles like that than announcing of a ban.
 
If beef is banned in Karnataka. what is the steak that you get in restaurants made from? I have eaten in Sunny's and Grill House and always assumed it was beef.
 
Black market cattle dealing: http://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Dehati-Aadmi/beefonomics-india-101/ its not the regular toi paper article, a blog hosted by someone with them. Do read fully before commenting.
Reading isn't enough, this guy has set some homework to do. As is it poses more questions than answers. why is it so vague, is this guy trying to imply he'll end up in a sluaghter house himself if he <gasp> spills the beans ?

eg

If the laws of India were followed even in passing, then for sure one thing would happen, as is a fact globally – beef or even buffalo meat in India would be at least twice the price of lamb and thrice the price of poultry. As on date, however, beef and “buff” sells at one-third the price of lamb and poultry. For a reason.
as for prices, chicken by kilo is cheaper without bones but deboned sells for as much as beef minced. mutton is 40% more. if anything mutton is the more expensive and fish is the most.

beef is cheaper if you mix it in with fat. Go for undercut and beef costs as much as mutton.

Lamb which really isn't sheep but rather goat. That is one of the weird things in india. Lamb is sheep abroad, but it means goat in india. mutton is goat.

A few years ago I had the opportunity to meet up with and then read up on somebody who had been one of India’s foremost dairy and bovine experts going back to a day and age before I was born. His treatise on the economic implications of cattle for pre-birth to post death vs cattle for slaughter are even more valid today.

(I am waiting for somebody to ask me what the religion of the person who wrote that treatise was, by the way, and whether he enjoyed good beef or not!)
No, how about you name this so called expert and mention what you read and what title is so um people can check up on who and what was said.

I enjoy good beef now and then, but only when abroad, and not the absolute crap we are served in India, often even the mutton mince or mutton pasanda is buff, so the only red meat one can trust is a lamb or goat chop because that can’t be faked.
No idea where this guy goes to eat but i've not had any problems with the steaks i've had here. They are wet aged and not dry aged so the taste is different and yeah i've had steaks abroad too. But its not absolute crap by a long way. The price is also like one third if not more what i'd pay for USDA.

-Go to a non-butcher any religion dairy farmer or just owner of a few cows/buffaloes and find out if he would rather sell his animals for quick money or keep them as an ongoing asset?
- Please find out the price of ghee from old cows.
- Please find out what price the importer’s agents are willing to pay for fresh moist cowdung and how much it costs to ship it all the way to France of all places in the same wet moist condition in reefer containers.
Why should i do this and why aren't you answering your own questions ?

But no, the beef and buff exporters have their strong-arm methods, and can not be resisted. Find out from rural India what happens when “they” make an offer nobody can refuse?
lots of innuendo and hint hint going on here.

Let some of the so-called beef exporters put up proper cattle-rearing for slaughter ranches in states of India that do permit beef, the North East or Kerala or West Bengal for example, and see what the costing is then?
how much is it costing them ?

I learnt very little out of this...
 
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Ok, so anyone around here knows how to tell if the meat in your roast is from buffalo or cow or bullock? If so, which is the best?
 
A total ban is open to legal challenge, as mentioned in this blog post on wsj back in 2012.

“That would be a very weak argument to say people should not eat beef from other states to protect cows in your own state. If you’re protecting it as furthering animal husbandry, the source of the meat is crucial,” said Mr. Surendranath. “I could import from the United States or whatever. In that sense, I am not affecting any cow in India.”

As expected the challenges are starting to come in.

 
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