And to think Nostradamus predicted the end of the world in 2008 :O.
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Benazir Bhutto shot dead !!
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We know where they are pretty well, they know too.
But thats about it. Knowing something and taking action to take them over is completely different. And lets have no illusions, India cannot "Take Out" Pakistani nukes. Pakistani army is a highly professional and a disciplined unit(we are too) and unlike some other states classified as banana republics or under axis of evil, they are highly nationalists.
Pretty good timing, obviously not from his perspective. But then this was not something he did. The biggest loser of a dead Bhutto is Musharaff.
^^ mushy jus gave up his uniform.. he obsly wants to defeat bhutto in de elections nd prolly had them all rigged up.
however, what he doesnt need is a situation of complete out of control anarchy.. which is exactly where pak might head now (if it wasnt there already)
not everyone in pak supports mush. there are ppl in the army, in de northern provinces nd all over de whole country who'd love to see the end of mush in a similar fashion.
bhutto gave a sorta air of pseudo safety to mush by showing that he was capable of accepting criticism and was ready for a fair(go figure what that means) fight, vis a vis, the elections.
however, what he doesnt need is a situation of complete out of control anarchy.. which is exactly where pak might head now (if it wasnt there already)
not everyone in pak supports mush. there are ppl in the army, in de northern provinces nd all over de whole country who'd love to see the end of mush in a similar fashion.
bhutto gave a sorta air of pseudo safety to mush by showing that he was capable of accepting criticism and was ready for a fair(go figure what that means) fight, vis a vis, the elections.
Keane 16 said:
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Think its self explanatory. President of Pakistan doesn't gain anything with a dead Bhutto. Yes defeating Bhutto would be something that they could have planned but not killing her as then you also open yourself up for condemnation and loss of public support(whatever little he enjoys)
hammerhead
Discoverer
This only worses the situation in Pakistan, a civil war between the pro democratic people and those against it is inevitable.
It's either Mush or death!!!
Also, Wow! This is pretty shocking and yet not surprisingly shocking given that this could've always happened. I remember Bhutto saying Mush wasn't responsible and blaming some other people within the ministry after the first failed attack when she first returned.
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Quasar
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He has no incentive to kill her at all what with the way he has the elections all rigged up and a judiciary of his choosing. The PPP & the other outfit were heading for a defeat anyway and were almost threatening to boycott the elections.
This is just one item checked off the extremists list, they are the sole winners here.
Params7 said:
Well, it should be quite clear. We are just next to them. Anything that effects Pakistan is going to create problems for us. Though we are not going to anything about it right now. Bhutto was a face of some moderation when it came to extremism as that was the only thing she could bank on for winning the elections. her killing might not do not much of anything to India right now, but if Pakistan becomes unstable now, we are going to be in trouble in next couple of years for sure.
I think its a bit late for Pakistan to realize its mistakes of supporting rebels in Afghanistan and Kashmir. I think they never realized that one final day the fire they lit up on neighbors roof are going to burn their own.
Shripad
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Well I am confident on out defensive capabilities. As far as our offensive capabilities are considered, I am not sure. The end result will be same but I have 0 confidence in out political leaders to take proactive steps. And we have not tested out offensive capabilities in 35 years.
Believe it or not, our military is well equipped for traditional warfare where air, land and sea domination is vital. Its training program is rated one of the best and vigorous by even US forces. We are training forces of over 14 nations in NDA besides our own. ( not many people are aware of this or even know this.)
What has happened today is bad news for whole region and I wont be surprised if our border deployment is increased over next few weeks. Specially if elections go ahead as planned in Pakistan which honestly I dont see happening now and thats why IMHO this assassination was planned.
Believe it or not, our military is well equipped for traditional warfare where air, land and sea domination is vital. Its training program is rated one of the best and vigorous by even US forces. We are training forces of over 14 nations in NDA besides our own. ( not many people are aware of this or even know this.)
What has happened today is bad news for whole region and I wont be surprised if our border deployment is increased over next few weeks. Specially if elections go ahead as planned in Pakistan which honestly I dont see happening now and thats why IMHO this assassination was planned.
Well i agree. Defense however doesn't imply no damages.
Pakistan cannot harbour any ambitions of taking over India and we cannot harbour the same.
Having said that offense from any side will result in major bloodshed. Thats why its an era of covert strikes and proxy wars.
Pakistan cannot harbour any ambitions of taking over India and we cannot harbour the same.
Having said that offense from any side will result in major bloodshed. Thats why its an era of covert strikes and proxy wars.
The Sorcerer
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Whenever there is a small spark of normality in Political life of Pakistan, it seems to end before it is started. Nawab sharif needs to be extra careful now. There arent many powerful political candidates to run the whole country. If this goes then I wouldnt be suprised if guys like Osama and the taliban (or be any terrorist body) will use pakistan as their breeding ground and a stronghold, just like Afghanistan. If this happens, then its Bad news for India and its security.
Ah well. She is dead. The only good that can come of this is perhaps now the US will force Musharraf to either 1. Allow Nawaz Sharif to stand for elections
OR 2. Hang a general or two. She was a US backed candidate, so the US will lose face... it is bad for them, so they need either of the above two (get a new candidate, or punish someone, anyone, for the murder).
But the instability is going to be a problem for us, the Taliban and jihadis are going to be ecstatic and that means they'll try attacking us. Republic Day is the obvious target.
OR 2. Hang a general or two. She was a US backed candidate, so the US will lose face... it is bad for them, so they need either of the above two (get a new candidate, or punish someone, anyone, for the murder).
But the instability is going to be a problem for us, the Taliban and jihadis are going to be ecstatic and that means they'll try attacking us. Republic Day is the obvious target.
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