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dsarosh said:
Just another newbie question:after i get the WiFi modem can I use it to transfer files from/to the netboook and the pc? So besides having internet connection, can I also connect the PC and the netbook to share files and data wirelessly using the WiFi modem?
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Yes my young pad-wan you can, the force is getting strong with you. :ohyeah:

Even I download files on my laptop as it acts my download rig, transfer them to my PC via LAN and share them with my friend's laptop wirelessly. Get the WiFi modem and how to do this will be told you. Just don't make another thread for that, ask here itself and you will get the response. :cool2:
 
Well dsarosh, Ryunosuke almost answered all of your questions. I'll add a few things too.

You said you are BSNL BB subscriber for about 5 yrs. In that case, I think you are eligible for a free modem upgrade. I'm not sure though. Check with your exchange. Some BSNL circles give free modems if you pay the rents in advance for a certain period.

Finally, even if you have to buy a router, get the TYPE IV ( a white one having 4 ethernet port & WiFi which is basically a Siemens SL2-141 OEM ).

Although the quality isn't very great to those fancy ASUS/LINKSYS etc routers, it works pretty much what its supposed to. Most importantly, its really easy to setup. And I got over 20Mbps speed while sharing files. The speed would bump in case of larger files I guess as theoretical WiFi speed limit is 54Mbps. Besides, the BSNL guys will take care of your modem if something is wrong. Where as in case of any external modem, they might refuse to turn up at your home for any problem simply stating " That must your router's fault."

Of course, I'll also advise you to get some CAT6 cable (with connectors) for connecting the Lappy to the desktop directly when needed for transferring stuffs large in quantity.

@Ryunosuke,

As I said earlier in the thread, I used VLC for my purpose and it worked as far as I expected. I'm supposed to deliver a presentation about that within a week. Then, I'll again sit back to explore some more ideas and options for better programability and controls. And this time I'll definitely look into icecast thoroughly and I'll need your advices. :)
 
What do you guys think about me buying a private modem instead of a bsnl modem?

The dlink modem I saw for Rs.3700/- was at least double the size of the bsnl wi-fi modem which looked really tiny.

Ever since I have had bsnl, I have never once had to phone them up for any help with the modem. So I am thinking that even if I buy a private modem and bsnl refuse to help me with modem issues, that is okay.

I'm sorry about the confusion, but I really thought that most people would always recommend a good quality modem from the shop rather than a bsnl modem.
 
We ourselves would love to switch ADLS2+ modems of better brands like Linksys,D-Link,Buffalo etc but the trouble is with the connection. Majority of BSNL guys are arseclowns. As soon as you report them a problem, you will get 2 probable solutions from them; "Aapke PC main virus hai" , "Aapka modem kharaab hai" or the combination of both, "Aapke PC ka virus aapke modem ko kaam nahin karney de raha".
Believe me I had my fair share of these instances and excuses all along when the real fault was in the hardline. Last year for month of October-November, I was almost without Broadband due to the problems and callous behavior of BSNL people. I got it sorted out after 2 months of sprinting from pillar to post and complaining the the state's DGM.
The only good thing was that since my modem was BSNL's they always told me to get a free replacement from them. As long as you are using a BSNL device, they can't pass off your complaint terming that you are using non-standard device.
RMS value of this post is this, better safe than sorry, use BSNL modem, its dirt cheap, works well, you can always get replacement for it and always can throw it at BSNL people in case of a problem with your connection.
The only feature lacking in BSNL modem is of QoS and that too can be fixed by a firmware upgrade provided by the BSNL. If you are really good, you don't even have to flash the modem, you can drop to shell prompt of it as they all are Linux based and can manually create QoS table and entries.
 
I understand what QoS is, just surprised to know it would make a difference in the case of a home user, i guess the key here is for games that are latency senssitive + multiple other network apps. Voip could be another app to benefit here.

I was talking more from a general use pov. i guess the diference in that case would be slight.
 
^Yes but as the thread opener has unlimited plan and if he downloads 24x7 then it becomes really frustrating at times, to stop/pause downloads just to browse net for 5 minutes to check the mails and stuff. Allowing HTTP traffic higher preference via QoS can improve situation for a home user also.
 
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^Yes but as the thread opener has unlimited plan and if he downloads 24x7 then it becomes really frustrating at times, to stop/pause downloads just to browse net for 5 minutes to check the mails and stuff. Allowing HTTP traffic higher preference via QoS can improve situation for a home user also.
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That's valuable tip, thanks for it.

I read somewhere that bsnl modems that cost Rs.1600/- have a range of about 20 meters. While the costlier modems costing about 3000Rs can give me a range of up to 100 meters. Can you comment about this from personal experience please?
I would definitely like the second option. The prospect of using the netbook in the garden with internet access is really worth it:)

In all these years I have never once needed to call bsnl customer service. I know it's no sue calling them. When the connection goes bad I firstly call the line man, becaue the problem is almost always, always in the telephone line and not really with the modem or with bsnl.

In any case, I will have my older modem with me. So if I need some help from bsnl I can always hide the new modem fix back the bsnl modem and ask for help.

I still have some dlink 56kbps modems that are working after 10 years, so I think investing in dlink modem is safe and most likely I wont have any warranty issues.
 
Well u can always try the quick hiding part ;) Works for my Porn, will surely work for your Modem too :hap2: As for the range issue, its because the BSNL modem can work over 802.11 a,b and g spectrum only where maximum speed is 54Mbps and range is 20-50 meters depending upon the placement of the router.

If your Netbook does support N-series of WiFi connection then you can safely go for a Draft-N router where you can easily operate your wireless connection at speeds of 110Mbps with range upto 50-100 meters but then again it too depends upon router placement. :cool2:

If router is kept deep inside the room, and you are trying to access it outside and between the room and the place u r trying to access, there are couple of rooms and heavy electrical/electronic equipment, then the range will be decreased and so will the speed.
 
Ryunosuke said:
If router is kept deep inside the room, and you are trying to access it outside and between the room and the place u r trying to access, there are couple of rooms and heavy electrical/electronic equipment, then the range will be decreased and so will the speed.
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This is the thing, here we have solid concrete walls versus drywall panels in the west.

What can you do in this case ? get a more powerful router, maybe some hacks to extend range. I suppose for the odd file transfer & web/document browsing wi-fi is ok. Throw in any multimedia streaming and its gets tricky.
 
^ Yes the heavy iron bar used to reinforce walls and roofs also act as passive Faraday Cages thus obstructing wireless connectivity. Only solution is to use higher power transmitters or hack the lower power ones to boost there power.
 
Thanks again man. I've been talking about WiFi for almost a week now, but I didn't have to sense to check which WiFi my netbook actually supports until I read your above post.
This is what my manual says:
Acer InviLink 802.11 b/g WiFi Certified network connection, supperting Acer SingnalUp wireless technology.

In device properties it says "Braodcom 802.11g Network adapter"

So guess I should be ready for a range of about 20 meters or so. I really should have checked the capabilities of my netbook adapter before deciding on the modem to purchase, that bad of me. I appreciate your post above, you probably saved me 2000Rs.

I got to be honest with you, though. It will be at least 2 weeks before I get the WiFi modem (for financial reasons). What I do right now is unplug the lan cable from the back of my computer and plug it into my netbook. For this I have had to move my modem and rotate my cabinet so the rear of the cabinet now faces me all the time.

So if there is anyone who can still write a tutorial for for bluetooth on Win7/Vista he can still save me a further Rs.1600/- :)

The OSes I have are:
PC - Vista/Wiin7 dual booth (vista prefered)
Netbook - Win7

Although I am willing to dump Win7 on the netbook and use vista if it helps.

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This is the thing, here we have solid concrete walls versus drywall panels in the west.

What can you do in this case ? get a more powerful router, maybe some hacks to extend range. I suppose for the odd file transfer & web/document browsing wi-fi is ok. Throw in any multimedia streaming and its gets tricky.
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I forgot to mention before...
But many times at night timings I can see networks available under my WiFi connection. I wont mention the exact name, but it it like XXXXXXX House.
The other WiFi network I get very often is simply named "dlink"

Now my house's compound itself is 400 square meters, and I really don't know who in my neighborhood is so close that I can get their Wi-Fi single so often.
The strength is mostly "weak" and sometimes "moderate".
But I guess these are not enough for smooth browsing, are they?
 
dsarosh said:
So if there is anyone who can still write a tutorial for for bluetooth on Win7/Vista he can still save me a further Rs.1600/- :)

I forgot to mention before...

But many times at night timings I can see networks available under my WiFi connection. I wont mention the exact name, but it it like XXXXXXX House.

The other WiFi network I get very often is simply named "dlink"

Now my house's compound itself is 400 square meters, and I really don't know who in my neighborhood is so close that I can get their Wi-Fi single so often.

The strength is mostly "weak" and sometimes "moderate".

But I guess these are not enough for smooth browsing, are they?
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I told u before and I'm telling you again. Bluetooth method is only good for experimental and personal know-how purpose only. Don't go for this "Jugaad". It maybe "Sasta", might even look "Sundar" but it ain't "Tikaoo". :no: It is better to go for the WiFi system. Since your WLAN card supports 802.11g, it will work with BSNL modem even in wireless mode.

The stray WiFi networks you are getting may or may not be protected. In either case you can access them to be on the freeloaders way to Internet but it is not advisable even single bit. Its illegal and if someone found out, you could land up in big trouble and these days when even a complaint is a F.I.R, better stay clear Dude, I tell you this from personal experience. ;)
 
@ryunosuke

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Hi,

Hope someone is still reading.

I got the WiFi modem today and got internet access on the PC through the lan cable.

The modem is a dlink modem, not through BSNL.

when the person came to set up the modem he set up the net access on the netbook. I even stepped out of my room and about 10 meters away and got single there too.

However, later I asked him to create a network for me to share files. He did this too, and I could edit my PC-files on the netbook. This is exactly how i wanted it.

However, now there is again no net access on my netbook. I have the WiFi icon, but no net access.

This is the exact same thing that happned to me with bluetooth and it's getting really frustrating.

I hope someone here can help me set it up tonight.
 
Hi,

Im sorry for the premature post above. It is working again.

What I did was go to the adapters page on the netbook (Win7) and disabled the Local Area Connection which was the adapter used by the lan cable.

I did this and the WiFi almost instantly started working.

It had made me frustrated because on all the pages I read no where it said that I have to disbale the lan adapter for the WiFi to work. I am not sure if this is normal behavior or a bug with Win7 which should be fixed with a service pack.

I'm hoping things will last now and I won't wake up tomorrow morning to find out all the settings lost again and no internet access.

I have set up the share folders and I can acess the pc files on the netbook.

I am currently moving a file from the PC to the netbook and the speed is around the 2.7MB mark. On the box they proclaimed to offer 54mbbs.

Am I getting proper speeds or is there anything I can do to improve it?

The net speed is correct on both the pc and the netbook at 62kbps
 
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