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i have seen the extended version of the movies (except the first one)......but it yet misses many scenes which were of importance in the book.....
 
It's understandable the way the film dealt with most of the details, but definitely not all. Agreed that Haldir's Elves coming to the rescue at Hornburg, or Elrond an ELF-LORD coming all the way from Rivendell to deliver Anduril in the hands of Aragorn were outrageous; I think it's on the whole justified.

You can't make a movie the way you write a book. There's a lot more space to play around with in a book; films need to be quick, there's no time to wander about.

The only things I really didn't like about the films and felt that they were completely uncalled for were:

1) Sauron's depiction of being a gigantic, bodiless eye atop Baradur

2) The Witch-king of Angmar's death at the battle of the Pelennor Fields.

They could have maintained Sauron's portrayal as they did in the Fellowship of the Ring. That was cinematic enough without being irrational. And regarding the Black Captain, they could have explained how on earth it was possible that Merry and Eowyn were able to kill him. It was Merry's westernesse blade that did most of the damage along with the curse cast by Glorfindel "Far off yet is his doom, and not by the hand of man will he fall."
 
My friend has the extended edition of ROTK. It is more than 4 hrs long :P

@Freefrag ---- If Peter Jackson had made the movies that long, the majority of people would have got bored. The number of people who had read trhe books before the movie is minuscle.
 
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I agree with Nikhil. For a mere commoner :), 4 hours would seem too long, considering the speed of life nowadays.

I however feel that they should've aired the extended versions in the theatres for people who wanted to see them. One show a week would have been fine. But I guess the inherent costs for that would be too high.
 
i have just seen the movies only the first two part and i'm yet to watch the last part. I had a part of the book long time back so i'll start it again. I do agree that the books are much better since the book seems a lot more descriptive than the movie
 
Hmmm, so we're discussing the films. Well heres what I think of the films.

First, the good points.
1> I'm forever indebted to Peter Jackson, for introducing me to the world of JRRT. Now, flame me if you want :bleh:, but the first time I heard about LOTR was when I saw a very early trailer of the films. It aroused my curiosity, and I got the e-book. :ashamed: As I mentioned earlier, I started reading during my submissions. ;)

2> Kudos to the visualiser and art director, for making the films look almost exactly the way I'd imagined them. :hap2: I visted lordoftherings.net regularly before the films released, and was bowled over by the wallpapers of hobbiton,rivendel and the uruk-hai. And later on, there was Moria, the Balrog, Isengard, Helm's Deep, Mordor, Gondor...........and what can I say about Golum :D They were simpy perfect! :cool2:
Even now, whenever I read the book, I think about the surreal imagery brought to life by Jackson, and it adds a lot to my reading experience ( unlike the potter movies - which totally interfere when I'm reading :@ )

Thank you for the visuals, Peter. You deserved all the Oscars you've won. :clap:

Now, things which I didn't like.

1> My biggest issues are with films 2 and 3. While FOTR was very accurate, TT and ROTK strayed quite a bit from canon. I can understand if Peter had to cut down on stuff to make the films a reasonable length, but why did he have to add extra nonsense??? I mean, sure Liv Tyler is very beautiful, the perfect choice for Arwen.....but she has like 3 lines in the book!

2> While the casting was without fault ( except for Galadriel...ughhhh!), the way most characters were potrayed in the film was completely wrong. Maybe Jackson was concentrating on the action and VFX more to attract the vast public who hadn't read the books, but it turned me off a bit.

There were so many parts in the books, which gave me goosebumps while reading....they were that exciting! And as I knew the films were coming out, I couldn't help but wonder how these scenes would get depicted on the big screen. Sorry to say, but I was let down a lot. I feel that while Jackson got the scale of the films right, he could have done a lot better with character development.
A few examples -

a) One of the most important characters in the book - Aragorn, Son of Arathorn. Heir of Isuldur, King of Gondor, Ruler of Middle-earth.
You have to realise that Aragorn is different from Strider. They're quite different personalities. Now, while Viggo was perfect as strider, I felt he severely lacked as Aragorn.
If you dont get the difference between strider and Aragorn, heres a passage form the book

Aragorn threw back his cloak. The elven-sheath glittered as he grasped it, and the bright blade of Andúril shone like a sudden flame as he swept it out. 'Elendil!' he cried. 'I am Aragorn son of Arathorn and am called Elessar, the Elfstone, Dúnadan, the heir of Isildur Elendil's son of Gondor. Here is the Sword that was Broken and is forged again! Will you aid me or thwart me? Choose swiftly!'

Gimli and Legolas looked at their companion in amazement, for they had not seen him in this mood before. He seemed to have grown in stature while Éomer had shrunk; and in his living face they caught a brief vision of the power and majesty of the kings of stone. For a moment it seemed to the eyes of Legolas that a white flame flickered on the brows of Aragorn like a shining crown.
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This is one of my favourite parts in the book, and was done total injustice in the film. :(
b) Which brings us to Andúril :no:
I don't think anyone who hasn't read the book will be able to recall Andúril's name, just by watching the films. The Blade that was broken, and forged again, has been almost, but not quite, completely sidelined in the films.

c) Faramir - A character whom I admire even more than Aragorn. He was r*ped in the films.

d) And heres the Million Dollar Question - Why oh why was Gimli reduced to a comic role? :S :huh:
 
I totally agree with you abt the Gimli part....

and even I had not read the books until after I saw the first 2 movies. Read all three books and then saw the ROTK.

But I loved Viggo as Aragorn.... I think EACH and EVERY one of those actors/actresses were made for those roles(except Galadriel).

but one of my fav charactersHAS to be Sam Gamgee....
 
@zhopudey

I havent read the book yet.. but still i can recall Andúril very well, juz by seeing the movie. :) with its introduction lines .. Andúril- The flame of West, forged from the shards for Narsil :) but yeah now i really wanna read the LOTR n will get my hands on it ASAP.

Btw any suggestions if shud get 3 volumes seperately or just all put in one?
 
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Well, I hate thick books, so personally I'd prefer the 3 seperate books. A smaller book is easier to read in bed :ohyeah:

And its good to know you followed the films so closely. :D You'll be happy to know that the scene your referring to simply does not exist in the book. :rofl:
 
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And its good to know you followed the films so closely. :D You'll be happy to know that the scene your referring to simply does not exist in the book. :rofl:
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lols... neva knew it.... Peter Jackson surely used his imagination a lot too :ohyeah:
 
yes he did.....

But then the movies were so awesome to noobs like us that I felt inspired to read the book after watching the first movie.
 
lol even i read the all the three books after watching the first movie......but i finished reading all of them before the release of the second movie.........many people are complaining about the poems though some were irritating i loved the poems sang by the Ents.........
 
real name- Skrithûrz, the knife - Uruk of Mordor

Freefrag- Rûk, the wargrider - Uruk of Mordor

awesome find XT :P
 
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