Graphic Cards Can CM Ex. 460W handle Phenom II X3 + GTX 260 Rig ?

[rohan_mhtr]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

^^ Ya i shouldnt have but the The Sorcerer guy had gone through my nerves .HE thinks all new people on this forum are dumb . Before reading if some1 posts rude about you then well.what shud i say !! It seems he was never intrested in this thread , just saw my post and wanted to comment something and hence the above post . And for his info think digit is not the only forum i visit . (Its mainly for bazaar section )

Even when i didnt recommend OP's curent psu but i guess he doesnt know to read all he likes is bashing people and hating newcomers !!

 

[Audiophi1le]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

there is an FSP 500watter @ arnd 3.5k chk tht too
then CM real RP 460 for 3.5k..........5yrs warranty

And tht PSu u have now will definitley blow........I am telling frm experience:bleh:

 

[dvijaydev46]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

:rofl:

Dude whose the newbee here , post more then 1k does not mean you have enough knowledge . First if you know how to read then read what i have written . Never compared vx450 to cm600 and dont know what your upto . Only said vx450 has single pcie slot . I also did not at all recommend op's current psu for him . I dont know why you are showing that same link again and again . And secondly you here sound like a fanboy to me !! I have completed BE in computer engineering from mumbai university and done hardware and networking and currently in larson and turbo from last 6 months to have enough knowledge . Learn to read posts clearly and if you cant then dont post at all . I read so many of your recent posts of yours and they seem to be nowhere regarding to op's help , only bash up others to glorify your knowledge .

Mate instead of fighting here, prove your point that a VX 450 can't handle a GTX260 or that's the reason why they have provided a single GPU connector. Being a tech forum, it needs proof really dude.

 

[rohan_mhtr]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

^^ dude who said it cannot handle it !!! You too please dont get me wrong .

It can handle gtx 260 with a converter just as when i tried my cm500+ with a 4870 . What the hell i have also seen a person running 4890 with vx450 but again my point was not that !!

I had suggested tagan since it had 2 pcie connecters and cheaper then vx450 but i cant spot where i ever mentioned it was better then vx450 .

http://www.tagan.com.tw/page/products/products-u37.htm

 

[dvijaydev46]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

Hmm but AFAIK VX450 is much better than that tagan PSU.

 

[stalker]

^^ exactly. The Corsair is much more of a proven quantity. While calling Tagan crap is also nonsense, they still don't measure up to the quality of a Corsair PSU.

PS -

@rohan, please don't mind sorcy.. he gets a little over the top when people drag in he CM vs Corsair debate.

Also, however knowledgeable you might be, please don't go about flaunting your degree/post. Just makes you the laughing stock.

 

[rohan_mhtr]

PS -
@rohan, please don't mind sorcy.. he gets a little over the top when people drag in he CM vs Corsair debate.
Also, however knowledgeable you might be, please don't go about flaunting your degree/post. Just makes you the laughing stock.

Ya i know , and i am right know laughing at myself after reading my post but honestly i did lost my nerves since this was not the first time !!

 

[thetoxicmind]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

I don't this so buddy. That one is a Extreme Series right? It's got a very unreliable reputation.

You better get a Corsair VX450.

Oh, do quote one such instance where it proved UNRELIABLE with a system it could handle.

I agree, the VX450 is the ideal (rather easiest) option to recommend these days but that doesn't mean other brands are unreliable.

Now, any PSU is bound to go bust if it can't handle the PC's power requirements.

OP's question was if it could HANDLE (provide enough power) the intended configuration, so answer along those lines. :|

 

[The Sorcerer]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

.HE thinks all new people on this forum are dumb .

Correction my dear friend . Newbies/regulars who make rave comments are the ones who usually carry emotional baggage and/or arrogance (most probably because they have some degree/diploma and have experiences putting their system together) when a better alternate is presented. People need to keep an open minded rather than clinging to their favorite brand like a magnet as its not to get you anywhere and learn to adapt with TE's way of attitude, way of speaking and explaining. It might sound rude, but newbies usually aren't wise to listen are simply damaging the essence of keeping a tech forum in the first place.

I didn't say that tagan was a crappy product, but telling tagan 600 u37 is better than vx450 and/or offers better value for money without any reviews from a proper sources is just plain wrong and this is not how this forum works. Its rather strange to see a BE grad who works for L&T not thinking about it for a moment. But then again TE has a long and elaborated history of B.E./B Tech grads being proven wrong many times .

@ stalker: Bleh

 

[BIKeINSTEIN]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

Only said vx450 has single pcie slot .

A psu with a PCie slot- how interesting!!

I have completed BE in computer engineering from mumbai university and done hardware and networking and currently in larson and turbo from last 6 months to have enough knowledge .

Wasn't L&T 'Larsen and Toubro'??:S
Must have been printed on that appointment/offer letter you got.
Which college in Mumbai University sir- MU went from Mumbai all the way to Ratnagiri iirc?
I really admire engineers- very brainy some of them- i barely passed SSC. :ashamed:

 

[Dark Star]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

Oh, do quote one such instance where it proved UNRELIABLE with a system it could handle.

I agree, the VX450 is the ideal (rather easiest) option to recommend these days but that doesn't mean other brands are unreliable.

Now, any PSU is bound to go bust if it can't handle the PC's power requirements.

OP's question was if it could HANDLE (provide enough power) the intended configuration, so answer along those lines. :|

Hash is sort of right . The extreme series is very unreliable. I saw some threads at TD and even bikey sir started few and if you go through them its pretty clear that Extreme series is giving a tough time to card to survive, choking them to death due to insufficient and fluctuating supply.

Apart from that those who think that the company power rating will be delivered at all cost is plain nonsense. This is not a physics chapter where you will neglect all the repercussions and resistance involved, its real life Also a cheap 600W (say the CM Extreme) will barely provide ~450W supply at high temps under decent noise. While a good 450W (VX450,Seasonic 430) can fetch you somewhat ~380 at normal and even more than rated at full load.

Just one more thing when you buy a component you spend so much in processors and card then why not spend a little in getting a good body and a heart ? No offence

A psu with a PCie slot- how interesting!!

Dada hit the nail on the head :lol: What a catch

 

[stalker]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

A psu with a PCie slot- how interesting!!

Wasn't L&T 'Larsen and Toubro'??:S

Must have been printed on that appointment/offer letter you got.
Which college in Mumbai University sir- MU went from Mumbai all the way to Ratnagiri iirc?
I really admire engineers- very brainy some of them- i barely passed SSC. :ashamed:

 

[BIKeINSTEIN]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

Note: this post has no bearing on the topic or psu in focus here- it's a general remark made generally.

Oh, do quote one such instance where it proved UNRELIABLE with a system it could handle.

It was a boring, repetitive tale on TE at one point of time, when the CM extreme power 600W worth 3.6K-3.8K seemed like something sent from the heaven, especially looking at the price.
Turned out it was a mole from hell, out to take back everything along with it.
I am sorry if you missed it then.
Like a good mod would advise a newbie- SEARCH is your best friend.

OP's question was if it could HANDLE (provide enough power) the intended configuration, so answer along those lines. :|

Have you lost it sir.
Maybe a Mercury/Intex/iball/Zebronics/XYZ/... 500W can run your or my rig (dunno how long before it goes boom and takes something or everything along with it to PC hell).
The point is will you trust your rig to it.
That's what reliable and reputed forums try to tell you.
And that's what knowledgeable/respectable members, like my gurus here on TE, try to tell- who take time off from their busy schedule by posting in detail and answering in many more lines apart from along the lines, above the lines, beneath the lines, etc.
It's the one word or one line wonders who do more damage.
A person genuinely insterested in helping doesn't stick to the point by taking things for granted.
He/she asks questions in return, gauges the actual needs and suggests accordingly.
Your suggestion to answer along the lines is ridiculous imho.
(is bold or caps akin to shouting/ordering?? i am sorry if so)

Also a cheap 600W (say the CM Extreme) will barely provide ~450W supply at high temps under decent noise.

The problem was if it could provide even 300-400 watts reliably and purely, we wouldn't have been so spiteful of it.
Not just the ratings or actual delivery, everything about it was pretty dicey, down to the fan they used.
(some of those points/flaws have been described in that CM600 vs VX450 thrd. That was discussed somewhat like almost 2 yrs back now?)

 

[Waterworld]

Oh what the hell happened here. I posted it yesterday and there was no post now i opened and found war is going on. Toxicmind got it right why you all started which is better company war. Please cool down guys.

Thanks for all comments. I was thinking everybody gonna say no straightaway. But really happy to find that "YES" it can run but there is risk involved in it. As i was reading reviews and found this PSU can deliever 400W of power and this configuration need 350W so it should run. But running it for long time and adding another component will make it huge risk, as its putting the PSU at full load. So its better to buy another PSU or different card.

About VX450 there is no doubt its superb PSU. Can handle almost any single card in the market. But now not having that much money to buy both the things. So now I think should buy 4850/4770.

 

[atiamd]

On topic: For your configuration, please get a quality 450W MINIMUM PSU from one of these manufacturers: Corsair, Seasonic(430 W can do too), Antec, Cooler Master Real power, Tagan.

In case if you dont if you know this but while buying PSUs, you should always look at how much amperage does the +12V rail provide alongwith the reputation that the particular brand carries in the market. You will notice that vx 450 has a single +12V rail that provides 33A which is more than enough for your configuration. Similarly, You can always google to find this out for other brands too. And of course reviews help a lot.

JonnyGURU.com - Silverstone ST1500 1500W Review
Hardware Canucks - The Latest Computer Hardware News and Reviews
Tom's Hardware: Hardware News, Tests and Reviews
Hardware reviews, Overclocking, Tech News and Enthusiast Community Homepage - Overclockers Club etc.

Bottom line: Tagan might not be a better company than Corsair, but its no slouch either keeping in mind the current configuration of the OP. I am sorry, I cant find any reviews for the Tagan PSU but on paper it looks good. Also, tagan BZ series has been good(Google for it). Now, its upto the OP what he wants.

Off topic: Man, I dont know why but this sorceror guy is always rude to people. I remember him from digit forum and MAN, was he rude. He thinks he knows everything. Read his other posts ppl. In MOST of em, he is bashing somebody or the other. Once, he even went to tomshardware just to bash a guy who wanted to build a gaming machine. (Granted the guy was an asshole but he did not deserve what sorceror had to say about him). I have been a regular to tomshardware for 4 years now, so I know this. All this I remember from 6 months ago, so I cannot provide the links.

Mr. "Know it all" SORCEROR DUDE: GET A LIFE INSTEAD OF BASHING PEOPLE IN CYBERSPACE. Not everybody has the time to be online all the time and keep helping others. They have jobs to do. And this doesnt mean that they dont know anything.

Now, rohan nowhere said that corsair 450vx is bad, He just provided another quality alternative. This is what the forums ARE for dude. Provide people with alternatives and let them research and decide what they want to buy.

sorry for this, but sometimes I cant just take it when this guy tries to run over somebody with his cool CM Vs. Corsair links.

Corsair is THE best company to buy PSUs from according to me but that does not mean that tagan is bad or any other brand is bad. Give me one link taht says tagan 600 W can not provide enough power to the system that OP has. His system is not an uber high end system and he MIGHT not even have unlimited funds to power it. I request you to please keep an open mind when on the forums. Here when one person speaks, thousand others are listening. And the speaker is responsible for what he says. So if you really want to help the community, please do so without bashing other people unnecessarily. If rohan or anybody else had suggested a brand such as iBall or such, then I would have understood your concern but for Tagan 600 for the system that the OP has!!! Come on man........

 

[Waterworld]

^^ I totally agree with this post.

 

[HellSlyne]

this thread reminds me of that old coffee bite ad.

 

[rohan_mhtr]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

Correction my dear friend . It might sound rude, but newbies usually aren't wise to listen are simply damaging the essence of keeping a tech forum in the first place.

I didn't say that tagan was a crappy product, but telling tagan 600 u37 is better than vx450 and/or offers better value for money without any reviews from a proper sources is just plain wrong and this is not how this forum works. Its rather strange to see a BE grad who works for L&T not thinking about it for a moment. But then again TE has a long and elaborated history of B.E./B Tech grads being proven wrong many times .

@ stalker: Bleh

Again i advise you to read others posts correctly if you can!! I cant see any of my post where i have suggested tagan better then vx450 forget about cm . If you do find any then please show it .

A psu with a PCie slot- how interesting!!

Wasn't L&T 'Larsen and Toubro'??:S

Must have been printed on that appointment/offer letter you got.
Which college in Mumbai University sir- MU went from Mumbai all the way to Ratnagiri iirc?
I really admire engineers- very brainy some of them- i barely passed SSC. :ashamed:

Dude i am bound to make typo mistakes in a fit of rage , i was really angry yesterday . And regarding your questions yes it is L&T . my college was R.A.I.T from navi mumbai 2005-2009 batch and FYI and all engineers tend to mention their universities since every college fall in their respective groups !

Peace

And i really dont know who started this stupid cm vs corsair thing , no one in this thread had ever mentioned cm better !!

 

[thetoxicmind]

Re: Can this PSU handle this?

@BIKeINSTEIN and DarkStar

Here's the thing.

Not everyone can walk to the nearest store and buy a PSU for 3.5K, inspite of it being a good investment.

My earlier comment was directed as a general perspective and not with respect to the OP's exact requirements.The BOLD text was to highlight my point, if the member was to simply skim through my post.

Now, the CM 600W model has warranted itself a bad reputation, under specific circumstances. It maybe unreliable in powering a rig with a power-hungry graphics card but not necessarily for a basic rig.

I mean, there might be thousands who continue to use the exact same model without any problems whatsoever.

What gets me even more, is the brand bashing part of it just because one particular model turned out to be a bad apple.I'm sure a sizable number continue to have a good experience with their CM PSUs, the same with other major brands.

Again, The main intention of my earlier post was to clear the hostility rather indifference towards other brands, simply because there exists the Corsair PSU.

He'd rather have left it at a suggestion for OP and an accompanying reason instead of condemning another brand(s).

In India, lakhs of people still run their systems on generic PSUs, so are you saying they should all make a switch to the best PSU in the world, in this case the Corsair VX450? Agreed, it's a good piece of hardware but there are other good options, at different price points to be considered in general.

Hope you understand my intention here.

This clearly isn't a Corsair Vs. CM debate.

@amitjakhar

Sorry about the OT mate.

Had to bring it up.

 

[low_bass_makker]

I agree with TOXIC here. It is not always a single product which makes the whole brand bad. When I buy hardware I see what type of service back is there in case of any problem. What is the warranty offered on the components I buy.

I had a 450 VX + 4870 combo. Before this I was having Seventeam 750 watts which is a server grade SMPS four years back. Here is the pic of the same..

Seventeam Electronics ????::C Power Supply, IPC Power Supply ...
It had a 2 years warranty. Which when sold was just going to finish. Then I got the 450 VX which I felt has some problem running my rig which had quite a few HDD and High CFM fans. The 12 volt rail which was very good on paper and rating hovered in the lower specs like 11.8-11.9 volts on load, which I felt that I am stressing the PSU. So I got a CM 700 Real power modular, Why because it also comes with 5 year warranty. And one more thing my friend had a 750TX which got bused twices which also took the Nvidia 260. He was without a PC for a whole month due to non available of Components and fault finding sessions he had to attend. To diagnose the problem where the fault is. But now he has bought a CM 700 watts and he is happy with the result.

I also sold my 450VX just a week back because it cannot take 7 HDD discusses here in details...

http://www.techenclave.com/pc-peripherals/which-psu-153768.html

I am not bashing Corsair here but I want to say buy a product which fulfill your need which are like PRICE, WARRANTY, SERVICE and finally your LOAD:tongue:.