I know girish didn't do anything with the OPAMPS, but could you check if the OPAMPS are properly seated to the card?
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Hi all,
I don't like to meddle in other people's affairs, but this seems not quite right to me, and hence am posting my views here.
Ok, I don't know why all of you can't see this, but using the same card, Girish was listening to music using Vista right ? Then he said he couldn't notice any difference in sound. Then he took some of Udit's suggestions, and tried to make some changes. Then he went offline. There is a possibility that he messed up the card during that time, which is now damaged. And now wants a refund because its not working for him. So the trust issue could be either way. If someone thinks Udit's tone is not right, I feel the same way about Girish as well. He has been outright accusing Udit from the first post. Did he try to PM some other member whom both know / some mod before posting this ? I think probably not. That is not mature behavior either.
Who is right and who is wrong can't be justified by just words exchanged on a forum.
Udit is very possessive of his PC as probably that's his source of connecting with the world. So he might be justified in not allowing anyone near it. For him getting all the accessories out and then fitting it might be a hassle (I feel he can't move too much). Why does the OP not install XP and let us know if the card is running or not ? Why is he adamant on testing it at Udit's place ?
I am not taking sides here, its just my personal opinion. Let the Op first agree to test the card on XP / take it to madmainac's place. Afterall he made the mistake of not testing the card before buying it. He is the one who is hurting here. When you give someting for RMA, don't your run around trying to get it replaced as quickly as possible ? I just see the OP trying to bully his way to a refund from udit, who might think it to be too painful to carry on this argument.
Case closed, no more posts.
If the OP feels the post is in anyway malicious, I apologise.
I don't like to meddle in other people's affairs, but this seems not quite right to me, and hence am posting my views here.
Ok, I don't know why all of you can't see this, but using the same card, Girish was listening to music using Vista right ? Then he said he couldn't notice any difference in sound. Then he took some of Udit's suggestions, and tried to make some changes. Then he went offline. There is a possibility that he messed up the card during that time, which is now damaged. And now wants a refund because its not working for him. So the trust issue could be either way. If someone thinks Udit's tone is not right, I feel the same way about Girish as well. He has been outright accusing Udit from the first post. Did he try to PM some other member whom both know / some mod before posting this ? I think probably not. That is not mature behavior either.
Who is right and who is wrong can't be justified by just words exchanged on a forum.
Udit is very possessive of his PC as probably that's his source of connecting with the world. So he might be justified in not allowing anyone near it. For him getting all the accessories out and then fitting it might be a hassle (I feel he can't move too much). Why does the OP not install XP and let us know if the card is running or not ? Why is he adamant on testing it at Udit's place ?
I am not taking sides here, its just my personal opinion. Let the Op first agree to test the card on XP / take it to madmainac's place. Afterall he made the mistake of not testing the card before buying it. He is the one who is hurting here. When you give someting for RMA, don't your run around trying to get it replaced as quickly as possible ? I just see the OP trying to bully his way to a refund from udit, who might think it to be too painful to carry on this argument.
Case closed, no more posts.
If the OP feels the post is in anyway malicious, I apologise.
WOW. Thats like a cherry on a cake now. Are you saying I wait till May to get this card working???????? I hope it was a joke bcoz I am not seriously going to wait till May. I paid you money and I must get a product which should work. Otherwise, pay me back my money.
Mallik, I think you should read all the 6 pages before commenting on in this case. Yes its true I was listening to music but the playback was crackled. Udit did offer help to fix but his recommendations did not work.
He had mentioned it works flawlessly in Vista which made me think to buy it and I eventually bought it. As far as the card being messed up, I did not even change Opamps. Its Udit who had changed it. I tried using the card the way he gave me. I am not finding any pleasure in carrying this discussion either. I am into a lot of grief already that I wanted money on his card which I cant use.
He had mentioned it works flawlessly in Vista which made me think to buy it and I eventually bought it. As far as the card being messed up, I did not even change Opamps. Its Udit who had changed it. I tried using the card the way he gave me. I am not finding any pleasure in carrying this discussion either. I am into a lot of grief already that I wanted money on his card which I cant use.
BIKeINSTEIN
Herald
I couldn't stay out of this as i had already told Girish78 and Udit.
But i will not comment much here as the argument is between 2 kids. :cool2:
And maybe in his exasperation, Girish has accused me of taking sides just sometime back on msn.
He said sorry but that was highly immature. :no:
Now that thread is closed- he accused the mods of liking Udit more.
I mean how immature or desperate can one be. :S
That's why i didn't want to comment here but am forced to.
Even if one is my friend, if something is not right and i state facts, that is not taking sides.
I do admit i have a soft corner for Udit, even though while selling stuff he may act a bit dealer-like with me :bleh:, but i treat everyone equal.
I do have the ability to be absolutely impartial, something that mostly my closest friends and family regret or despise.
My friends may not like that i treat a 10-day old acquaintance as well as my best friend of 20yrs but that's how i am. :ashamed:
He called me last night at 12:23am to discuss this.
He called me a few times till today late noon but i was asleep.
Most peeps know i don't answer calls when i am asleep as i can't hear the phone ringing even though it's next to my ear.
Neither did i ever wake up for school/college on time even if a double-bell alarm clock rang next to me. :ashamed:
Also to add some more-
Udit is definitely not in a position to make changes as and when he needs.
He need a stable rig as that is his lifeline.
Uninstalling Creative/XFi, reinstalling and getting everything to work is a pain imho.
(we wanted to pit a Xfi xtreme music against the Xonar, Emu 0404, Alien DAC in cranky sir's Xonar DX review but it didn't even get detected in his P5N32-sli mobo- we didn't bother trying to get it to work- couldn't risk upsetting his rig/OS
)
So he may seem rigid about his stand on not letting anyone touch his pc but people who don't know what it is tobe bed-ridden without being able to move an inch will never know.
A disabled person with a strong heart and positive outlook to life never counts himself as handicapped
I know it personally but it's the times like this when not being able to do things on your own makes you feel a handicap.
God forbid, i don't want anyone else to experience it either.
Maybe he forgot in his desperation to get it working- STD is not cheap exactly.
All i can recollect is -
He said honboard sounded better and i was like :O
I said maybe he has crappy speakerrs or crappy ears- jokingly of course.
He said he has "BOSE"
I was like "no wonder" :lol:
He said he could notice difference on an xfi he had once, i was like ok then maybe your ears are ok.
He said Vista drivers detected as virus and not allowing installation.
I said which crap AV- he said genuine Kaspersky.
I said unistall AV, and if scared of getting infected when AV is not there- stay offline and u won't get infected or u using some pen drive, install Vista drivers, reinstall AV.
He was reluctant to but did it later.
He also mentioned he was not getting 24-bit option.
He had power cuts quite a few times in that time period.
And girish78 was told that before heboughtit.
Making that statement here appears as if trying to imply Udit lied to him.
I think it was known to him it wasn't in warranty.
Auzy says opamps are swappable.
You knew they were swapped.
Looking at no sale situation, you too may have got tempted to buy it for less.
You bought it at 2.2K via ebay coz maybe you perceived it as a good deal.
And IIRC, when the thread was started at 3K, you had offered 2K then.
So if you had considered buying it since so long, not once could you have checked for reviews/compatibility online? :S
Regarding incompatibility-
Most genuine members deal on a friendly basis and account for any incompaibility too while selling to good members/friends.
I have always offered to those who bought stuff from me or via me, the option of refund, even if they didn't like something or realised later it wasn't of much use to them. (No matter how old or new on TE)
But generally, it's not a seller's duty to check compatibility or pros and cons. :cool2:
There is no writing on stione that the seller has to account for the buyer's ignorance.
It's done on TE out of goodwill and that's why TE market is different.
(Though there will always be some people here only for market and some only for fleecing.)
The buyer has to research well before buying.
Those who didn't have known to suffer.
Many people have issues with XFi/Auzy cards (esp nf4 may recollect).
They haven't claimed a refund from newegg or KMD or any dealer.
They have worked around the odds and/or are living with it.
Also you may say i am taking sides, but most on TE know,
that if Udit had issues with some h/w, half of TE knows abt it since he chats with so many even if he doesn't post the issue on TE.
I sincerely don't recollect him telling me ever he had issues with that card.
But he was an absolute auduio n00b when he got it (Udit will so kill me for this remark)
So maybe he perceived what o/p he got as ok and girish does not- one man's nectar can be another man's poison.
Plus i think he never lies to me.
I think i know most of his h/w gaffes till date.
He hates not having some 64-bit driver for his GTX295 that can down his clocks in idle.
He upgraded to Gskill 1066 as he wanted native 1066 over his OCZ1000, not becuase it was faulty.
He always upgrades even if he doesnt like something.
Maybe themods an point if he had some shady deal in the past but ithink the stuff he sold always worked.
Considering all that- i think i can give him the benefit of doubt that his card was fine at the time fo the sale.
(Udit will not like that i am not trusting him and saying confidently his card was ok but i am giving him the benefit of doubt- i hope that's not taking sides)
I told u maybe Vista driver is not getting installed properly.
Told u to uninsall AV and ttry.
try diff pci slot.
most of what ppl said here i told u.
Now you say it doesn't work.
I seriously don't want to comment here anymore.
And i will only say this to Udit.
2.2K is not much to you but that doesn't imply it shouldn't matter to you.
If your card works fine, just refund the money. :|
But i will not comment much here as the argument is between 2 kids. :cool2:
And maybe in his exasperation, Girish has accused me of taking sides just sometime back on msn.
He said sorry but that was highly immature. :no:
Now that thread is closed- he accused the mods of liking Udit more.
I mean how immature or desperate can one be. :S
That's why i didn't want to comment here but am forced to.
Even if one is my friend, if something is not right and i state facts, that is not taking sides.
I do admit i have a soft corner for Udit, even though while selling stuff he may act a bit dealer-like with me :bleh:, but i treat everyone equal.
I do have the ability to be absolutely impartial, something that mostly my closest friends and family regret or despise.
My friends may not like that i treat a 10-day old acquaintance as well as my best friend of 20yrs but that's how i am. :ashamed:
Girish calls me all the way from Kolkata since past few weeks.mallik said:
He called me last night at 12:23am to discuss this.
He called me a few times till today late noon but i was asleep.
Most peeps know i don't answer calls when i am asleep as i can't hear the phone ringing even though it's next to my ear.
Neither did i ever wake up for school/college on time even if a double-bell alarm clock rang next to me. :ashamed:
Also to add some more-
Udit is definitely not in a position to make changes as and when he needs.
He need a stable rig as that is his lifeline.
Uninstalling Creative/XFi, reinstalling and getting everything to work is a pain imho.
(we wanted to pit a Xfi xtreme music against the Xonar, Emu 0404, Alien DAC in cranky sir's Xonar DX review but it didn't even get detected in his P5N32-sli mobo- we didn't bother trying to get it to work- couldn't risk upsetting his rig/OS
)So he may seem rigid about his stand on not letting anyone touch his pc but people who don't know what it is tobe bed-ridden without being able to move an inch will never know.
A disabled person with a strong heart and positive outlook to life never counts himself as handicapped
I know it personally but it's the times like this when not being able to do things on your own makes you feel a handicap.
God forbid, i don't want anyone else to experience it either.
Last night, at 12:23am, I don't recollect girish78 telling me even once that he heard bomb explosion or crackling.girish78 said:
Maybe he forgot in his desperation to get it working- STD is not cheap exactly.
All i can recollect is -
He said honboard sounded better and i was like :O
I said maybe he has crappy speakerrs or crappy ears- jokingly of course.
He said he has "BOSE"
I was like "no wonder" :lol:
He said he could notice difference on an xfi he had once, i was like ok then maybe your ears are ok.
He said Vista drivers detected as virus and not allowing installation.
I said which crap AV- he said genuine Kaspersky.
I said unistall AV, and if scared of getting infected when AV is not there- stay offline and u won't get infected or u using some pen drive, install Vista drivers, reinstall AV.
He was reluctant to but did it later.
He also mentioned he was not getting 24-bit option.
He had power cuts quite a few times in that time period.
I remember few days after starting the thread, Udit told me on msn that his card wasn't in warranty and then edited his thread.girish78 said:
And girish78 was told that before heboughtit.
Making that statement here appears as if trying to imply Udit lied to him.
I think it was known to him it wasn't in warranty.
The way you use those statements again are no less than accusations.girish78 said:The Vista drivers are a complete piece of crap. I installed Vista on a new partition and tried but the card has the same problem of the bomb blast noise during bootup and crackling music playback. I dont need technical help. I want my money back or replacement. This card was not designed to work for Vista. Its compatibility was XP as per the manual and box. If I cant get any help then thats the end of my dealing in TE. This one is not only a sour deal but rather a very dissapointing deal. I didnt expect Udit to behave in such a manner after he got the money. If you check the thread, you will find that he first mentioned it was under warranty and then he changed it was out of warranty. He also changed Opams in the card. I took the card as he told me that it wil work on Vista. When I went to his place yesterday he said that he will take the card back if the card does not work. Today he is asking for proof that he said that.
He told me that he used this card in Vista 64 bit for the past 1.8 yrs. How the hell can he do that as the Vista drivers were released few months back. The card was not getting sold in TE ( please check his thread). I bought it trusting his words but I think I was a fool I trusted him. He has shown his true face now and I request the mods to do something about it.
Seeing that I posted a thread in TE feedback he replied in MSN......
Udit says (2:28 PM):
kuch nahi hoga te ko bolne se
Udit says (2:29 PM):
i dont give a damn about te, its members & mods
So I am certain, his intention was to cheat me by giving me a faulty card.
MODS PLEASE RE-OPEN HIS THREAD AND HELP ME.
Auzy says opamps are swappable.
You knew they were swapped.
Looking at no sale situation, you too may have got tempted to buy it for less.
You bought it at 2.2K via ebay coz maybe you perceived it as a good deal.
And IIRC, when the thread was started at 3K, you had offered 2K then.
So if you had considered buying it since so long, not once could you have checked for reviews/compatibility online? :S
Regarding incompatibility-
Most genuine members deal on a friendly basis and account for any incompaibility too while selling to good members/friends.
I have always offered to those who bought stuff from me or via me, the option of refund, even if they didn't like something or realised later it wasn't of much use to them. (No matter how old or new on TE)
But generally, it's not a seller's duty to check compatibility or pros and cons. :cool2:
There is no writing on stione that the seller has to account for the buyer's ignorance.
It's done on TE out of goodwill and that's why TE market is different.
(Though there will always be some people here only for market and some only for fleecing.)
The buyer has to research well before buying.
Those who didn't have known to suffer.
Many people have issues with XFi/Auzy cards (esp nf4 may recollect).
They haven't claimed a refund from newegg or KMD or any dealer.
They have worked around the odds and/or are living with it.
Also you may say i am taking sides, but most on TE know,
that if Udit had issues with some h/w, half of TE knows abt it since he chats with so many even if he doesn't post the issue on TE.
I sincerely don't recollect him telling me ever he had issues with that card.
But he was an absolute auduio n00b when he got it (Udit will so kill me for this remark
)So maybe he perceived what o/p he got as ok and girish does not- one man's nectar can be another man's poison.
Plus i think he never lies to me.
I think i know most of his h/w gaffes till date.
He hates not having some 64-bit driver for his GTX295 that can down his clocks in idle.
He upgraded to Gskill 1066 as he wanted native 1066 over his OCZ1000, not becuase it was faulty.
He always upgrades even if he doesnt like something.
Maybe themods an point if he had some shady deal in the past but ithink the stuff he sold always worked.
Considering all that- i think i can give him the benefit of doubt that his card was fine at the time fo the sale.
(Udit will not like that i am not trusting him and saying confidently his card was ok but i am giving him the benefit of doubt- i hope that's not taking sides)
First you said sound quality was not as good as onboard.girish78 said:
I told u maybe Vista driver is not getting installed properly.
Told u to uninsall AV and ttry.
try diff pci slot.
most of what ppl said here i told u.
Now you say it doesn't work.
I seriously don't want to comment here anymore.
And i will only say this to Udit.
2.2K is not much to you but that doesn't imply it shouldn't matter to you.
If your card works fine, just refund the money. :|
superczar
Keymaster
on an absolutely unrelated note, I too found onboard sound substantially better than the POS SQ I got with creative X-fi
And this with my living room speakers (which are certainly not Bose, nor anywhere close :lol: )
My only concern on this sad story is related precisely to this
Girish (claims) that Udit told him it's perfectly compatible with Vista (in other words, he (supposedly ) didn't ask him to research on his own )
If that's true, Girish isn't at fault
If it isn't, Udit is perfectly in the clear
(Of course, the assumption being the card works as expected on XP)
Girish, here's what I propose:
1. Install XP.
2. If card works fine in XP, it's a clear case of Vista incompatibility.
In which case if Udit has indeed promised Vista compatibility, I guess a refund is absolutely fair.
I did not have time to go through the long conversation.. but from the initial part of it, you had mentioned you did not find too much of a difference from onboard sound. Might I ask how you had noticed the same if the sound was crackling?
1. Install XP.
2. If card works fine in XP, it's a clear case of Vista incompatibility.
In which case if Udit has indeed promised Vista compatibility, I guess a refund is absolutely fair.
I did not have time to go through the long conversation.. but from the initial part of it, you had mentioned you did not find too much of a difference from onboard sound. Might I ask how you had noticed the same if the sound was crackling?
BIKeINSTEIN
Herald
^ then again- a semi-pc-literate semi-techie will also check for product review/compatibility online- given the time between first offer when thread was started and when it was finally picked up.
Everyone i know does it except for my super n00b friends who rely on me.
In which case i am even more worried than when buying for self.
Czar- don't getme wrong.
i said it's not a "duty"
But some people like me do make it a duty to check and suggest, even if means no sale or refund.
And this is something that has been strenghthened by the love and goodwill of the amazing gurus/buddies i have on TE.
There are guys here you very well know, whom i would vouch for than for self.
In the end, i just hope the card is still fine and Udit repays Girish coz this thread and the way both parties handled this matter was not right.
Matter should have been handled more peacefully over IM than ending up on TE in such a short time.
And this was pickup sale of all the matters from the same city.
And i cannot single out either of the two as responsible for this.
Can't clap without 2 hands; cannot slap without a hand and a cheek on offer. :lol:
Everyone i know does it except for my super n00b friends who rely on me.
In which case i am even more worried than when buying for self.
Czar- don't getme wrong.
i said it's not a "duty"
But some people like me do make it a duty to check and suggest, even if means no sale or refund.
And this is something that has been strenghthened by the love and goodwill of the amazing gurus/buddies i have on TE.
There are guys here you very well know, whom i would vouch for than for self.
In the end, i just hope the card is still fine and Udit repays Girish coz this thread and the way both parties handled this matter was not right.
Matter should have been handled more peacefully over IM than ending up on TE in such a short time.
And this was pickup sale of all the matters from the same city.
And i cannot single out either of the two as responsible for this.
Can't clap without 2 hands; cannot slap without a hand and a cheek on offer. :lol:
madmaniac
Forerunner
I believe the card should be tested first and then we can come to conclusions.
And a few points I'd like to mention despite the fact that they both are my friends.
1. Generally when one sells something on TE be it with warranty or not there is at least a testing period of few days if not a week.
2. It could be Girish's comp is having problems with the card. so card needs to be tested on another machine.
3 And the case here is not such that girish damaged the card in any way. It just doesnt work in his system so what can he do.
And a few points I'd like to mention despite the fact that they both are my friends.
1. Generally when one sells something on TE be it with warranty or not there is at least a testing period of few days if not a week.
2. It could be Girish's comp is having problems with the card. so card needs to be tested on another machine.
3 And the case here is not such that girish damaged the card in any way. It just doesnt work in his system so what can he do.
Yes thanks Bike. I have learnt my lesson. I know what you mean by saying that. Your intensions are clear and I can see what you are trying to say.
Thank You once again. The lesson I learnt is dont trust anyone. I will remember this forever now.
I am a straight forward person and dont like taking in circles. I wanna talk straight to the point. There are others who dont like that.
I have also sold stuff. As a seller I have always kept my buyers completely informed. Ask people who bought stuff from me.
Maybe I expected everybody to do that. I was wrong. Not everyone will do it. Even though seller confirms it works you check and re-check. In short dont trust anyone....... I HAVE LEARNT WHAT I HAD TO THROUGH THIS DEAL. I HOPE I CAN CLOSE THIS ON SUNDAY.
NO MORE DEALS IN TE. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH. OTHERS PLEASE ENJOY.
Thank You once again. The lesson I learnt is dont trust anyone. I will remember this forever now.
I am a straight forward person and dont like taking in circles. I wanna talk straight to the point. There are others who dont like that.
I have also sold stuff. As a seller I have always kept my buyers completely informed. Ask people who bought stuff from me.
Maybe I expected everybody to do that. I was wrong. Not everyone will do it. Even though seller confirms it works you check and re-check. In short dont trust anyone....... I HAVE LEARNT WHAT I HAD TO THROUGH THIS DEAL. I HOPE I CAN CLOSE THIS ON SUNDAY.
NO MORE DEALS IN TE. I HAVE HAD ENOUGH. OTHERS PLEASE ENJOY.
Party Monger
Juggernaut
Girish can you check the card in xp? it wont be a problem if you have a spare primary partition, xp and vista disc...Once we're sure the hardware is fine, you guys are in a better position to solve the problem
I dont know you Udit, but this statement was low and not at all in good spirit..Its like your taking advantage of your disability to force girish into submission/leaving the issue..if you are correct i see no reason for such a statement...:no:
I know you dont care or atleast act as if you dont care, but i couldnt stop my self from saying this..Its surprising to hear you say that..:no:
Udit said:
I dont know you Udit, but this statement was low and not at all in good spirit..Its like your taking advantage of your disability to force girish into submission/leaving the issue..if you are correct i see no reason for such a statement...:no:
I know you dont care or atleast act as if you dont care, but i couldnt stop my self from saying this..Its surprising to hear you say that..:no:
Quick note, not related to the dispute. A loud pop at switch on (through the speakers) is not a sign of a defect, or something that will be corrected by switching OS. This is normal operation for a lot of sources which have a very big capacitor on the output and a single supply, so the capacitor charges at power-on through the input of the connected amplifier.
The solution is to switch the speakers on after the source. My old SB Live!, the Alien DAC, and quite a few other cards exhibit the same behaviour. It's not something to worry about.
On the dispute, here's the thing. If the seller is offering an unsupported feature, it is the buyer's risk. For example, if I sell a CPU that I have done 3.6GHz with, the speed is not a guarantee, it's an indication. The safest thing for a buyer is to get something that is manufacturer-guaranteed, or live with the risk of knowing the unsupported feature may or may not work. That is, for example, the basis on which all modded/non-original products are sold.
Finally, to the crackling.
Crackling of sound is usually a sign of a PCI or resource conflicts. Unfortunately I can be of no help other than to say a totally clean install is the only way to find out what is at fault. Remember the way Vista handles sound API is totally different to XP, so just uninstalling drivers may or may not be enough. If the clean install does not work, and the card works fine in XP (which is what I suppose the manufacturer specifies) the card is fine. If X has managed to get an unsupported feature working, does not mean Y will be able to.
The tone of your posts is way too aggressive, but if you can indeed wait till the end of the month (three weeks away), I can try and check if the card is working when I return to Cal. That is, if you promise to not get aggro on me if I indeed find the error is somewhere other than the card. As a matter of fact, you should have first posted a technical query thread, before shooting off on Udit. I'm not taking sides here - but feel this could have been handled better.
The solution is to switch the speakers on after the source. My old SB Live!, the Alien DAC, and quite a few other cards exhibit the same behaviour. It's not something to worry about.
On the dispute, here's the thing. If the seller is offering an unsupported feature, it is the buyer's risk. For example, if I sell a CPU that I have done 3.6GHz with, the speed is not a guarantee, it's an indication. The safest thing for a buyer is to get something that is manufacturer-guaranteed, or live with the risk of knowing the unsupported feature may or may not work. That is, for example, the basis on which all modded/non-original products are sold.
Finally, to the crackling.
Crackling of sound is usually a sign of a PCI or resource conflicts. Unfortunately I can be of no help other than to say a totally clean install is the only way to find out what is at fault. Remember the way Vista handles sound API is totally different to XP, so just uninstalling drivers may or may not be enough. If the clean install does not work, and the card works fine in XP (which is what I suppose the manufacturer specifies) the card is fine. If X has managed to get an unsupported feature working, does not mean Y will be able to.
The tone of your posts is way too aggressive, but if you can indeed wait till the end of the month (three weeks away), I can try and check if the card is working when I return to Cal. That is, if you promise to not get aggro on me if I indeed find the error is somewhere other than the card. As a matter of fact, you should have first posted a technical query thread, before shooting off on Udit. I'm not taking sides here - but feel this could have been handled better.
BIKeINSTEIN
Herald
I don't know what you derived but you are surely immature and impulsive.girish78 said:
I am sorry- i still consider you a good person and good friedn but i had to say it.
Not a bad lesson to learn in todays times.girish78 said:
Yes- you were wrong.girish78 said:
Sort of.girish78 said:
Please don't make it appear that TE is a bad place to trade.girish78 said:
Whether to sell/buy or not is your choice- no comments.
I told him this on IM- said keep speaker off while booting as some DACs/sounds cards don't like it and boom/pop.cranky said:
But he said that is not a solution and i was just trying to cover up for Udit.
Simple statements can seem accusations if one is not careful about the choice of words.
Imho, girish- you just want your money back and aee not looking at a solutions.
I am sorry i wasted your time by trying to fiure out the issue and trying to help you get it working.
Had you simply told me earlier you wanted your money back rather than a solution, i wouldn't have troubled u so much.
Like i said before- hope the card is ok and you get repaid.
Sorry for giving priority to the card's well-being- i do treat my stuff as if living things with emotions fo their own. :ashamed:
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