Graphic Cards Different Brand Video Cards Change What You See in Games
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Thats because, ATI chips before 9700 pro were POS. I had bought a 9800pro, and that was a huge jump from my previous chip, so yeah I kinda favour ATI 
. 3D quality atleast in the new generation cards, is hardly indistinguishable. But 2d I find ATI yet much superior.
Also on default settings ATI has more vibrant colors, not that NV cant reproduce them (you need to fiddle with the drivers to get a similar effect)...
. 3D quality atleast in the new generation cards, is hardly indistinguishable. But 2d I find ATI yet much superior.Also on default settings ATI has more vibrant colors, not that NV cant reproduce them (you need to fiddle with the drivers to get a similar effect)...
could u please share some of ur experience with us regarding ur claim. where actually u find them superior.Aces170 said:
Hmm, sharper text, edges appear more smooth, and transitioning between windows seems more smooth to me on ATI. (monitor all the while same.)
Also I am comparing a 7900GTO (my current chip) and X800XL, the colors in video files appear more rich (but was able to fix later on the NV chip).
What favours Nvidia, a much superior experience on Linux, and very stable drivers for windows. Although ATI updates its drivers at a faster interval now... Another thing atleast for a 9800pro, I dont find any chips here on TE which lasted more then 2 years
I had nearly bought a 4870, but friend luggage overshot the limit, coming from US. Hence am getting a 9600GT in some time, I will also be transitioning to a 22 incher the next month, if the 9600GT struggles to play games at medium settings, will settle for a 4870 from India itself.
Also I am comparing a 7900GTO (my current chip) and X800XL, the colors in video files appear more rich (but was able to fix later on the NV chip).
What favours Nvidia, a much superior experience on Linux, and very stable drivers for windows. Although ATI updates its drivers at a faster interval now... Another thing atleast for a 9800pro, I dont find any chips here on TE which lasted more then 2 years
I had nearly bought a 4870, but friend luggage overshot the limit, coming from US. Hence am getting a 9600GT in some time, I will also be transitioning to a 22 incher the next month, if the 9600GT struggles to play games at medium settings, will settle for a 4870 from India itself.
At the same AA levels, ATI produces a smoother image than nVidia.
In some games, ATI's 4xAA is almost as good as nVidia's 8xS AA.
nVidia also suffers from some really ugly texture shimmering over large distances.
The negative LOD clamp pretends to fix it, but all it really does is blur things up so they don't shimmer and stand out so much.
And for the record, my current GPU is an nVidia.
In some games, ATI's 4xAA is almost as good as nVidia's 8xS AA.
nVidia also suffers from some really ugly texture shimmering over large distances.
The negative LOD clamp pretends to fix it, but all it really does is blur things up so they don't shimmer and stand out so much.
And for the record, my current GPU is an nVidia.
lol prior to HD 3k and 4K series ati had very little or no presence in india that y .even i used to buy nv cards before as ati cards were ridiculously expensive due to their low availablility here.
i went and got 3870 and shud tell ya ati has much better IQ than nvidia .
And no im not a fanboy i dont belive in fanboyism crap just think nvidia is more of a dishonest company .
they just keep releasing newer versions of their cards for ex 9800gtx 9800gtx+ ?? which makes their loyal customer look like asses??
not being a fan boy but hats off to ati for bringing mainstream performance to the masses . And dont even get me started on the quality issues with nvidia .
i went and got 3870 and shud tell ya ati has much better IQ than nvidia .
And no im not a fanboy i dont belive in fanboyism crap just think nvidia is more of a dishonest company .
they just keep releasing newer versions of their cards for ex 9800gtx 9800gtx+ ?? which makes their loyal customer look like asses??
not being a fan boy but hats off to ati for bringing mainstream performance to the masses . And dont even get me started on the quality issues with nvidia .
Ok some screens please and must be from more than one source for clarificationsaumilsingh said:
ATI is not without defects as well known to any flicking issues.saumilsingh said:
well action actually shows the Boism effect.vijaysurendran said:
:rofl: and yaa please fell free to start talking about quality issues.
hyeah: No restriction at all. only remember to share some screens to justify ur answer.:cool2:.The first set of screenshots exhibit the shimmering. Note that it's MUCH worse in motion as the white lines keep moving and zigzagging.
The second set shows the negative LOD clamp at work. Still not as good as it should be, but atleast the zigzagging and shimmering doesn't stare you in the face anymore.
On ATI cards, you get perfectly formed smooth chalklines.
The second set shows the negative LOD clamp at work. Still not as good as it should be, but atleast the zigzagging and shimmering doesn't stare you in the face anymore.
On ATI cards, you get perfectly formed smooth chalklines
.Muzux has been sleeping on red mattresses ever since I first saw him on TE, its been "mera lal gadda".
9 NV cards, 6 ATi cards, dunno about IQ, for me at casual glance they're the same, but I feel NVIDIA's cards fail slightly less frequently, whether this is because of higher quality PCBs or the PWM used I cannot say.
I love my shiny new GTX 285, but the HD 4870 1 GB probably impressed me the most since the 9700 pro days.
^^vijaysurendran -> another red fanboy in the making from the above posts.
^BTW shoudln't you be wearing a red shirt in that avatar pic of yours?
9 NV cards, 6 ATi cards, dunno about IQ, for me at casual glance they're the same, but I feel NVIDIA's cards fail slightly less frequently, whether this is because of higher quality PCBs or the PWM used I cannot say.
I love my shiny new GTX 285, but the HD 4870 1 GB probably impressed me the most since the 9700 pro days.
^^vijaysurendran -> another red fanboy in the making from the above posts.
^BTW shoudln't you be wearing a red shirt in that avatar pic of yours?
Vandal said:
Not so sure about that, In my Graphics Card history of 5 nVidia and 3 ATi cards, 3 nVidia cards failed while none of the ATi cards failed. But of course my Asus Riva TNT card bought 10 years back still works fine.
Its the GeForce 5 and 6 series cards that have failed on me.As for IQ, I had felt there was noticeable difference between nVidia and ATi cards when I alternated between them in the past, but it was not major enough that I would concern myself about it unless I have to choose between two cards that have the similar performance and similar price point. Also I haven't used any of the GeForce 8 series and above nVidia cards, so I cannot comment about their IQ.
Vandal said:
Yeah, but now we have simulation3 with his "mera hara gadda" to complement Muzux :rofl:
:rofl: Where is ur ATI screens for comparision. well seening the second set is perfect as far as my eyes sees them..but where is the source for ur screenssaumilsingh said:The first set of screenshots exhibit the shimmering. Note that it's MUCH worse in motion as the white lines keep moving and zigzagging.
The second set shows the negative LOD clamp at work. Still not as good as it should be, but atleast the zigzagging and shimmering doesn't stare you in the face anymore.
On ATI cards, you get perfectly formed smooth chalklines
:rofl: :hap5: :rofl:Vandal said:
hell yaa....:rofl:Vandal said:
Lol Saumil m8, no point. These guys are desperately hoping that either Nvidia or ATI pick them in the PR team, reasoning is far beyond.
@Simulation, I dont know about others but surely I dont keep taking screenshots of every minor issue I come across. And for most of us its a time frame of approx 10 years since we all became pc enthusiast (the vfm ones ofcourse), its not possible to have a side-side comparisons, but this is where personal experience count. Surely you dwell on your signature, and dont just google for answers
@Simulation, I dont know about others but surely I dont keep taking screenshots of every minor issue I come across. And for most of us its a time frame of approx 10 years since we all became pc enthusiast (the vfm ones ofcourse), its not possible to have a side-side comparisons, but this is where personal experience count. Surely you dwell on your signature, and dont just google for answers
@saumilsingh have u ever check the help file for the said option it clearly states its use.. here u go:-
"Applications sometimes use negative LOD bias to sharpen texture filtering. This sharpens the stationary image but introduces aliasing when the scene is in motion. Anisotropic filtering provides texture sharpening without unwanted aliasing, so it’s desirable to clamp LOD bias when anisotropic filtering is enabled for better image quality."
"Applications sometimes use negative LOD bias to sharpen texture filtering. This sharpens the stationary image but introduces aliasing when the scene is in motion. Anisotropic filtering provides texture sharpening without unwanted aliasing, so it’s desirable to clamp LOD bias when anisotropic filtering is enabled for better image quality."
lolAces170 said:
Aces170 said:@Simulation, I dont know about others but surely I dont keep taking screenshots of every minor issue I come across. And for most of us its a time frame of approx 10 years since we all became pc enthusiast (the vfm ones ofcourse), its not possible to have a side-side comparisons, but this is where personal experience count. Surely you dwell on your signature, and dont just google for answers
well then i would say according to my signature there is some error in ur 10 yr experience as u said that even today u feel ATI 2d quality better. Coz my almost 4 yr experience (much little then yours) havent detected Any 2d IQ diffence. before that GOD knows.
The second set is simply 'good enough'. If you think it's perfect then I don't think you are qualified enough to be spearheading a discussion on IQ in the first place for the simple reason that you don't know what perfect IQ is.simulation3 said:
Boy let me clear what i mean to say. the word perfect was used according to standard of the image when it was compared with the previous one especially the last 2, 1 from each set where speed seems to be most from others. and that too when compared with the encircled area. now i m asking where is ur ATI screens.. Dont B.S here if u can't give comparision and by the way which baby game is this. please show the source link.saumilsingh said:
The game is GTR 2 and they're my own screenshots. So I am the source.
As for ATI screenshots, I don't have an ATI card, so I will have to post screenshots from someone else (the game is still GTR 2).
Behold perfection:
Pay attention to how smooth the chalklines are.
As for ATI screenshots, I don't have an ATI card, so I will have to post screenshots from someone else (the game is still GTR 2).
Behold perfection:
Pay attention to how smooth the chalklines are.
^^ i think u need a medic. show me one to one correspondence screens and that will prove ur point.they must be at least close to each other in the frames. please dont B.S again here if u haven't proof .by the way where u got the other source if u dont have an ATI card and how could i know what setting is used on and at what time. r u trying to befool us.:chair:
if this is the way to compare things then it is better to keep it to urself dont share it. Thanks a lot
And lastly I m smelling a Boism character after reading ur posts.
if this is the way to compare things then it is better to keep it to urself dont share it.
Thanks a lotAnd lastly I m smelling a Boism character after reading ur posts.
One more shootout on Image quality. This is not a Microscopic comparison, but rather based on the preference of some random subjects who are into design work. As I said before, the IQ is not that different between the two, but ATi definitely has a slight edge.
Videocard Image-Quality Shootout | Maximum PC
Videocard Image-Quality Shootout | Maximum PC
Lord Nemesis said:
though old but good, thanks for sharing here is its bottom line for all:-
THE BOTTOM LINE The good news for anyone shopping for a new videocard is that you don’t need to sacrifice image quality for performance. Based on our blind tests, the GPUs from both AMD and Nvidia deliver similar visual quality with games, high-definition video, and digital photos.
so if anyone is saying that he is seeing half chalklines or half black-boards. then he definitly needs a eye specilist.
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