Fair Practices: TE Market Recommendations

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Fair Practises​



TE Market Recommendations​



Hey all,

Repeating the words from TE Staff, TE is not responsible for the sales carried out in this section. This is just a utility section given to responsible TE members to make use of to sell of extra baggage and for the benefit of members who otherwise wont be able to afford/obtain such parts/ equipments etc (Example the excellent GO(Group Orders) we have here.)

These are basically recommendations, and fair practices that the Seller/Buyer "CAN" follow to make the whole process of buying and selling less painful for both parties. Because in my personal experience I have had awkward moments dealing with certain users in respect to the basic "ACCEPTED" practices in TE. Not because they were at fault, but because THEY were not aware of it. Well now you have a thread to refer them to.

Recommendations: Putting for Sale/Buy
  • Post the expected prices. Though I know IT is mentioned in the main rules thread, many people dont do it just to be reminded of doing so in the next 2 or 3 posts which ACCOUNTS to more OT. Just take a little effort and check your purse strings and post a price.
  • Mention if you are open to negotiations at all. It will avoid receiving messages from users asking you to sell for 10k when the posted price is Rs 15k.
  • If possible post a live PICTURE of the item you are trying to sell (for SELLERS.) This serves the purpose of allowing the prospective buyer get a glimpse of the item in question. Which will do your sale more good than bad anyways :)
  • Avoid bumping the thread sooner than every 3 days or so. Remember, you bump to get to the top, others BUMP to GET OVER YOU, and it goes on. Vicious cycle and just makes people waste more and more time w/ ZERO utility.
  • Provide the option of PRICE + shipping over PRICE (shipped.) Let the buyer decide what kind of shipping he wants. Even if you want to mention a (SHIPPED) price, mention a + Shipping price because that little bit of money saved could create a world of trouble for both of you later on.
  • Make the WARRANTY part crystal clear. It matters a lot to some people EVIDENTLY. And to some, it doesnt. But you are not the one to make the choice. So take the high way and mention it.

Recommendations: Deal done?
  • Lets put some faith IN the system shall we? Of course money comes first, but the DEAL is entirely upon the conscience of the buyer and seller and is completely off TE. Speaking of faith:
  • ONCE you guys verbally agree that a DEAL is done, stick to your word. MORE SO after the guy has transferred money/ shipped the item. For example, if person X and Y agree for amount Z for item G and X transfers Z to Y for the same, Y is expected to stick to his end. NO matter what. If he wants some change, he should cordially ask the buyer for his consent, given which he can make changes. Otherwise, don't break the trust for mere sake of money, because otherwise you will put the whole section into a vicious circle.
  • The accepted practice is that the buyer transfer the WHOLE amount to the seller before the BUYER can ask the SELLER to ship the item. Of course it totally depends on the individuals to confer to this or not. But at least this way, we avoid awkward situations when something out of ordinary is demanded.
  • Ship the item as soon as you receive the money. Pack it properly. Remember, you are now dealing with someone else's property and it is your moral responsibility to take care of it until it reaches the hands of the rightful owner. If there are any delays, intimate the other person ASAP and hopefully he will understand your reasoning if it is valid. Please use A PROPER COURIER WHEN SHIPPING. Don't try to save Rs 50 and create a great deal of tension for the buyer because that COURIER is the last link in the sale process. We don't want it as our weakest link right?
  • Be cordial towards each other during the total affair. Remember, none of us is a professional in doing this. So keep that foremost in mind.

Recommendations: OT Posts
  • Surely some of us (including me) feel compelled to comment on certain FS/WTB threads because the facts included in the post are grossly incorrect. Sure the ball park rule says that you are NOT allowed OT posts what-so-ever but we don't live in utopia don't we? So AVOID posting something which you would hate to see in your own WTB/FS thread. Make sense?
  • Avoid LOW BALLING at all costs. Again I will iterate that we are not professionals doing this for a job. We are individuals from various backgrounds. So if you MUST Bargain, then DO SO IN A PM, NEVER IN OPEN POST. Because suppose you don't get your desired price, you ruin the sale for the seller even though you don't buy the item. Get the flow?
  • Avoid promoting you own items STRICTLY. I don't know TE's stand on this affair, but I am sure no one would like someone to try and take your buyer from you by offering a similar product for 1k less would we?
  • Expect a temporary ban w/o reason if found trolling the market section. Even though Market is just a accessory section in TE and is beyond TE "warranty" we cant have people messing with such a sensitive matter as money. Because even a paltry sum of Rs 100 can mean a world to someone else. SO don't be a troll!

Good Deal/ Bad Deal
  • If you think that a deal is good, then leave your remark by accordingly rating the thread using the inbuilt and very intuitive thread rating system. By making posts such as "Good deal.", "Awesome deal." we are needlessly pushing down other threads (equally deserving.) The buyer will get the information about the thread accordingly.
  • Mods, please enable thread rating view from first rate itself (from the current standard of viewable after 2-3 ratings from different members.) So that this system gets a kick start. (alteast for the Market Section.)

Please remember, TE is NOT JUST ABOUT THE MARKET SECTION. So follow the above guidelines and get through the whole process w/o pain.
 
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Re: Fair Practises: TE Market Recommendations

Bahhh.... This guy just needs a chance to show off :bleh:Just kidding

Nice effort though... But i might just change a few things in that before making it a sticky :D... Hope you don't mind...
 
Re: Fair Practises: TE Market Recommendations

Switch said:
Bahhh.... This guy just needs a chance to show off :bleh:Just kidding

Nice effort though... But i might just change a few things in that before making it a sticky :D... Hope you don't mind...

He eh... OT in market thread :@ Ban Switch :P :P :P Lol....

Neways, feel free to add to the thread. I must rely on the mods to keep this thread maintained since I cant edit my own posts (yet :P he eh)
 
Re: Fair Practises: TE Market Recommendations

Good job, Karan! Repped ya!

I suggest this thread to be closed for discussion because we dont want this thread running into pages, even though Karan deserves all the praise and appreciation for taking out time and writing such a long post and guidelines for sales in Market section.

Yes guys please check everything and anything before posting ur item for sale and dont break promises after deal is done and money sent. (My 2 cents, hope nobody minds).

And also "FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES".

Enjoy! :)
 
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imranais said:
Yes guys please check everything and anything before posting ur item for sale and dont break promises after deal is done and money sent. (My 2 cents, hope nobody minds).

And also "FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES".

Enjoy! :)

NEVER NEVER SEND MONEY VIA ILLEGAL METHOD.

Always use the transaction mod by which latter you can prove that you send a money for that deal.
 
Re: Fair Practises: TE Market Recommendations

how bout adding this.

no lowballing for stuff bought from usa / newegg cause it costs cheap there & costs much more here in india.

recently have seen a bad trend developing here on te where someone is selling a card here at a reasonable rate which he has bought from newegg. still ppl complaining that its cheaper on newegg & he should sell at newegg rate.

what people dont understand is that he isnt selling the card in usa. he is selling it in india so he will charge n price it according to the prices here.
if u buy a card in india & if u go to usa n try to sell it there. will u sell it at india ka high prices there or usa prices. its the same case here. people are sourcing the card for much less from usa n selling at a profit here, no need to post n cry about it in the forums n complain, cause they are still selling at a reasonable rate compared to what it costs in india.
 
Re: Fair Practises: TE Market Recommendations

And what about getting rid of the "great deal!" and "bump for a friend" posts? I thought the rules state such posts are not allowed, but nobody seems to care about it :(
 
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zhopudey said:
And what about getting rid of the "great deal!" and "bump for a friend" posts? I thought the rules state such posts are not allowed, but nobody seems to care about it :(

I agree with Karan,

To bump own post once in 3 days if no reply and friends should not allow to bump the thread.

Tedious jobs for MOD
 
Re: Fair Practises: TE Market Recommendations

^^ not all that tedious. Just haul up all offenders for a week, and everyone else will auomatically fall in line :P
 
Re: Fair Practises: TE Market Recommendations

Bumping Friend's threads is common practice. bump every 3 days??? are you kidding me?

The amount of traffic the market sometimes has will take ur thread to 3rds page in 2 days. Its not same low traffic section as 6 months before. It should be 1 bump / user / day at max. maybe 1 per 12 hours is ok too.

And this means each user is allowed to bump once a day. He may use that to bump his own or his friend's thread.

Disable post count in market if thats what some people are concerned about.

As far as items from USA goes, i cannot blame people asking it cheaper. Its imported item with no warranty, people will of course try to get it cheaper same as person who is trying to sell it at higher price. Let the two parties sort it out. I have seen some people flipping out because someone brings into notice the current US price. Well that any one is allowed to do if item is purchased form there. Little negotiations happen.

Its typical Indian mentality :P

I have failed to sell anything here at the price i have stated :P people always ask it for less :P
 
Re: Fair Practises: TE Market Recommendations

^^LOL as long as your original price is fair, I don't see a problem selling it at the price quoted without haggling... Of the last few things i've sold, i've had to go down in price only on one item... the dfi mobo thats it. Everything else no haggling... sold it at exactly the price i quoted ;).
 
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Ya but even i wasent disappointed with price i got. Usually its just rs100-500 off my asking price. i dont keep bragging for that small amount. Sell it @ decent price while u can. thats the key.

The thing is, like it or not its Indian community and its in blood of 90% of out society to bargain. Its gona happen here whether we like it or not. As long its within limits its all ok.
 
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Funky said:
Bumping Friend's threads is common practice. bump every 3 days??? are you kidding me?
The amount of traffic the market sometimes has will take ur thread to 3rds page in 2 days.
Its not same low traffic section as 6 months before. It should be 1 bump / user / day at max. maybe 1 per 12 hours is ok too.
And this means each user is allowed to bump once a day. He may use that to bump his own or his friend's thread.
Disable post count in market if thats what some people are concerned about.

As far as items from USA goes, i cannot blame people asking it cheaper. Its imported item with no warranty, people will of course try to get it cheaper same as person who is trying to sell it at higher price. Let the two parties sort it out. I have seen some people flipping out because someone brings into notice the current US price. Well that any one is allowed to do if item is purchased form there. Little negotiations happen.
Its typical Indian mentality :P
I have failed to sell anything here at the price i have stated :P people always ask it for less :P

I will elabore on that:

  • Bump your FS/WTB post once ONLY every three days.
  • It applies for all people.
  • So would your thread be in 3rd page by the end of the day? Think about it. The overall bumping frequency is down remember?
  • Friends bumping threads. Thats one of the finegrained rules I believe I should follow and ask my friends to follow. Sure it will help your sale, but doesnt it give you an unfair advantage to know people in TE who bump your threads over people who are new to the forum? IMHO, the Market section threads should be more non casual. After all, it deals with money.

Regards,
Karan
 
Re: Fair Practises: TE Market Recommendations

See exactly thats what the point is. We are not selling real estate here. Its technology products. The people here try to sell here because they know its a community of similar interest people.

And like it or not once your sale goes off the 1st page you loose 90% the traffic. Everyone is trying to sell their products only. And this is free for all section, so whatever advantage person wants to create then its his own creativeness, reputation.

I still fill 3 days is little too much in current stage of market on TE. Previously it wasent needed to even bump your own thread. It will stay on page 1 for days :P

ANd it may not always be a bump from friends. Now someone stated about no warranty thing in your E6400 thread, i replied as you were offline. its simply stating the facts that its still costing less than local E6300 price.

I agree those GREAT DEAL bumps are not really needed. But self bumps should be allowed atleast once a day provided your thread is not on 1st page already
 
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Funky said:
I have failed to sell anything here at the price i have stated :P people always ask it for less :P

Never seen your FS thread yet:hap5:

But for (e.g.) some members ask Rs.2000/- for No warranty left products, while the same product available in Market for 2500/- with 3 years warranty.:bleh:

Your Once a day bump theory some what accepted by me:)
 
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