Fair Practices: TE Market Recommendations

[RiO]

Never set things in stone..... Why 3-5... I did it better.... neways going OT. XS is dealing withe entirely different magnitudes... it has atleast 10x members compared to TE. So they can afford to have min 100 post count.

I agree with Masky and Bladey, that we its a bit too critical to curb on posting powers of others, but the mods can be a bit strict and be impartial to all and NOT allow OT of any sort. I know I have indulged in crapping and OT myself and so have many others, but those were genuine slips... IMHO, unless asked dont comment on the FS/WTB.

"More" isn't "better" man, and this goes for anything. I've always believed that simplicity is the homework of genius and I guarantee it will work - if I was required to check if my sale thread meets 20 different rules, I will not sell on that site... PERIOD. This isn't eBay you know!!

As well, by imposing a post-count condition in the Market section, you ensure that the member has been around long enough to understand the community before he sells anything in the community... moreover, I've seen guys with less than 10 posts put stuff up for sale.

 

[KiD0M4N]

1 bump a day, 50 posts min. to sell stuff here. We've already got dealers (Viking.. hint, hint) setting up shop here.. shouldn't we discourage this?

Ok... on second thought.... It seems valid....

100 posts minimum (why break something if it aint broke, it works damn well in XS)

1 bump MAX a day

NO friend bumps

If implemented well will do the market section lot of good.

 

[Kumar]

Another vote for the post count and friend bump rules.

OT:I think there should be some member rating system (only for the market section-i know there is the reputation system) depending on the deals done before so that ppl can know about the buyer/seller (something like the one on ebay and on the lines of the 'longetivity bar in FE))

 

[BIKeINSTEIN]

Problem is the deal would be done behind doors. and if there is an issue, ppl wouldn't know who to believe. then the accusations start flying. wasnt that the whole reason u started this thread?

Aiyo- Right said Masky Sir- recipe for disaster imho.
Then we will be required to revive Chatterbits and that would be an even bigger disaster.:rofl: :ashamed:

Why this double stand on this issue? For example... you TOTALLY DISCLAIM and responsibility for trades done on TE. This is just stating it in a more concrete way Still the recommendations in the OP hold.... in PM i.e.

Not a double stand Karan- unless you want to accuse TE of double standards.

Coz if anyone, especially few posts old newbie who cannot be backed by a senior reputed member, sells something wrong or is unfair, the buyer in his remarks/grievances to everyone on and off TE will always mention TE in the same breath as the cheat- bad publicity for something TE isnt exactly responsible.
So some moderation has to be exercised, after all the sale was put up on TE na.

Coz through the Disclaimer, TE can totally wash hands off the matter but some moral responsibility has to be there.

1 bump a day, 50 posts min. to sell stuff here. We've already got dealers (Viking.. hint, hint) setting up shop here.. shouldn't we discourage this?

Not a problem if he is giving goods at throwaway prices- shouldn't we encourage then?
Jokes apart- if someone is gaining something (sale facility) through the community, he/she should be contributing to the forums too.
One should not be using the forums just for private matters/gains coz that can be more hazardous than good.

As well, by imposing a post-count condition in the Market section, you ensure that the member has been around long enough to understand the community before he sells anything in the community... moreover, I've seen guys with less than 10 posts put stuff up for sale.

Or buys anything from anyone.
Also the community can understand him too in the meanwhile.

Excellent point Rio Sir.

Earlier when registration/signing in wasn't necessary for viewing Market, there would be several people who would contact me via IM or mail asking for the stuff on sale or even about stuff in my rig specs that i hadn't put up for sale.:rofl:
But i wasn't very comfortable dealing with someone who i just met on IM, but if i see that person on TE, its kinda reassuring.- though it still has nothing to do about the credentials of the person involved.
(see how TE somehow got dragged into the matter.)

But i am sure some of you'll must have received similar requests or sold stuff in a similar case.

In the past few months, the number of members shot up mainly due to one reason imho, making registration compulsory for viewing Market.
Excellent move- Kudos to whoever thought of it.:hap2:

There are still many people who stalk the forums as guests but are not registering- dunno why.:S

 

[Mohit]

100 posts minimum for being able to even see the market section is good enough.

like in XS , you cant even see their market section until you have 100 posts.

do something like that guys.
EDIT : this will give us privacy as well ....all those dealers and distris who come here to check the offers for stuff wont be able to see the market section itself.

LOL.

hyeah:

 

[KiD0M4N]

100 posts minimum for being able to even see the market section is good enough.

like in XS , you cant even see their market section until you have 100 posts.

do something like that guys.
EDIT : this will give us privacy as well ....all those dealers and distris who come here to check the offers for stuff wont be able to see the market section itself.

LOL.

hyeah:

@Mohit: I second it!

@Bikey: Dear User, Do not spread FUD! I am not accusing TE of anything. Unless you didnt realize, i started this thread because of what went on between two members regarding some memory/courier mischap. That was because I wanted to make sure these things didnt happen more. And I took word from a couple of ppl I know to label this UNOFFICIAL recommendations....NOT RULES, Not anything else.

I called "Double Standards" Not at TE, not at admins, NOT at anyone, just the way this thing was being handled, by ME and well as everyone who is in responsibility of implementing it. You state that you are not responsible, but then you care abt the morality. I say, its ALL cool, but just mention it officially. So that new users are not taken for a toss.

Regards,
Karan

 

[Vij]

Market is a major section that attracts new registrations.

While I agree that posting in the Market section can have a prerequisite criteria of 100posts min....viewing should be open to all...

Also people should be allowed to post their views which can then be moderated., this is an open community...not some Bazaar..well ok its called Market but it aint just a Market...Its a community...

Oh and I second the bump theory...

 

[TheMask]

Problem is the deal would be done behind doors. and if there is an issue, ppl wouldn't know who to believe. then the accusations start flying. wasnt that the whole reason u started this thread?

Why this double stand on this issue? For example... you TOTALLY DISCLAIM and responsibility for trades done on TE. This is just stating it in a more concrete way Still the recommendations in the OP hold.... in PM i.e.

Yes, as such TE and iits staff are not liiable nor responsible for deals made iin market. Yet, we wanna make iit as open and as transparent as possiible. Thats the only reason why deals made over messenger chat/PM dont qualiify for the "Trader Feedback Thread." We dont want what prompted thiis thread to be recurring agaiin.

You state that you are not responsible, but then you care abt the morality. I say, its ALL cool, but just mention it officially. So that new users are not taken for a toss.

We dont even want old members to be taken for a toss. Hence my poiint.

 

[KiD0M4N]

Yes, as such TE and iits staff are not liiable nor responsible for deals made iin market. Yet, we wanna make iit as open and as transparent as possiible. Thats the only reason why deals made over messenger chat/PM dont qualiify for the "Trader Feedback Thread." We dont want what prompted thiis thread to be recurring agaiin.
We dont even want old members to be taken for a toss. Hence my poiint.

Ok agreed.....
But pls put the minimum 100/50 posts to be able to post in the Market section, and if posssible, minimum 1 post to be able to post in any section other than introduction lounge.

 

[BIKeINSTEIN]

@Mohit: I second it!

@Bikey: Dear User, Do not spread FUD! I am not accusing TE of anything. Unless you didnt realize, i started this thread because of what went on between two members regarding some memory/courier mischap. That was because I wanted to make sure these things didnt happen more. And I took word from a couple of ppl I know to label this UNOFFICIAL recommendations....NOT RULES, Not anything else.

I called "Double Standards" Not at TE, not at admins, NOT at anyone, just the way this thing was being handled, by ME and well as everyone who is in responsibility of implementing it. You state that you are not responsible, but then you care abt the morality. I say, its ALL cool, but just mention it officially. So that new users are not taken for a toss.

Regards,
Karan

Sorry Karan- dunno what got your goat- but i was saying some moderation has to be there and also some amount of transparency in most deals coz invariably TE will get dragged into bad publicity for any hanky panky its not responsible for.
Else why even have a Market section on TE- lets all move to eBay.:cool2:
I am totally for buyer/seller only posts.
What you are doing is commendable and when did i question that?
I am sorry once more.:ashamed:

Even with older mess ups, if it hadn't been for TE and if the one who felt erred hadn't brought up the matter on the forums, it would have only left two guys with bitter animosity towards each other.
Not to mention, some lessons learnt by everyone, especially the inexperienced and less experienced.

And apart from spam and O/T posts and maybe some comments, i don't think i have ever opposed what Mods/admins do to TE, i like TE not only for what it is but mainly for the wonderful people i met here.
So whatever mods do is cool with me- they are way way wiser.

And when did i say i am not responsible:S- I am absolutely accountable for what i sell just because of moral responsibility.

BTW, what is FUD?:S:ashamed:

 

[ComradE_BeaN]

Ok agreed.....
But pls put the minimum 100/50 posts to be able to post in the Market section, and if posssible, minimum 1 post to be able to post in any section other than introduction lounge.

lol...u are inviting spam...

 

[Vij]

On second thought there are so many new members who buy lots of stuff...eg eatpepsi bought Udits 1800XT in no time...would it be wise to disallow them.

Ok hw would this be....They cant start threads in Market but post there...

 

[Udit]

On second thought there are so many new members who buy lots of stuff...eg eatpepsi bought Udits 1800XT in no time...

i sold to avi_avadhut

eatpepsi bought vercetti's X1800XT

 

[Mohit]

lol...u are inviting spam...

spam can be moderated

 

[KiD0M4N]

spam can be moderated

Yea exactly..... we wont go to the extreme of DISALLOWING them to buy stuff.... after all many of our senior members came to know of TE when they were on the lookout for l33t hardware. What we can do is we can disallow THREAD CREATING right untill they reach 100 posts minimum. This ensures that they are atleast known in the forum well enough to be trusted.

What say?

@Bikey: Chill bhaiya... was just pulling your leg

 

[superczar]

Frankly, the market sections seems to be working just fine since as long as it's been existence....

One mishap, more silly than serious does not really justify any major revamp of the the way it works!

 

[Kumar]

If u feel it will discourage the new members,then just lower the required post count to something like 20/25/30 posts.

or put seperate requirements for sellers and buyers...i.e. in order to sell u need to have more posts than to buy.

 

[TechHead]

@Bikey - FUD = Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt

 

[KiD0M4N]

Yea exactly..... we wont go to the extreme of DISALLOWING them to buy stuff.... after all many of our senior members came to know of TE when they were on the lookout for l33t hardware. What we can do is we can disallow THREAD CREATING right untill they reach 100 posts minimum. This ensures that they are atleast known in the forum well enough to be trusted.

What say?

@Bikey: Chill bhaiya... was just pulling your leg

@Bikey - FUD = Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt

Spot on

 

[DaMonarch]

Well IMHO we can move the closed threads to a new section, this might help people to see more posts, this shud pull down the bumps a bit. cause we have a lot of closed threads as well in the market section. Each FS / WTB Post shud have expiry time like 1 week or max 10 days automatically the post shud be moved to closed post cause much post are open and they are not even getting bumps they have gone from page 1 to page 4 now.

1 bump in 2 days shud be good since this way we are able to see more post again, dealers (once know shud be banned with their ip Address.) (Viking Hint.. )

new members shud atleast have one TE member reference if he wants to sell in the market place or let him have min 50 post to see the market place. 100 might be too long before he looses intrest in the market section.

all newbies who sign shud receive emails regarding ( Trading Rules, Rules and regulations along with welcome mail). Make a point that every one completes their profile with location, msn / yahoo / gmail msgr contact detials if not address min phone no.

make a point that they mention everything very clear, price, warranty, new or old ( age) bill or no bill, and if one TE Member can certify the same than that wud be excellent ( i know that is like asking too much) but this is like more assuring.

nothing more is striking me so far!!

i hope this helps