Android Flipkart: Moto X Incoming
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1. How is the dual-core chipset on moto x compared to the quad-core on the moto g ??
2. Will it com with LTE on board in India ??
3. Now getting a nano-sim would be a pain.
IMO pricing could have been more aggressive from Moto / Lenovo. Most probably they will go the US route and we will see price cuts or discounts over the course of time. Especially, as the upcoming second version of "X" is round the corner.
Coming to the experience bit, have come across great reviews from a couple of colleagues who had been using iPhone 5 and N5, and sold their phones to keep "X".
Difference is mentioned by @Sobirvs http://www.techenclave.com/community/threads/flipkart-moto-x-incoming.164035/#post-1932470
But check out the different reviews
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/05/motorola-moto-x-review/
http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus-fans-take-moto-x
It's mostly how users feel that the phone is highly customized to their needs, starting from customized backs (though Motomaker wasn't in the deal here) to an always listening CPU to a lag free experience without being a quad-code / octa-core monster.
abracadabra
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@ayanavish; the reviews pointer all are when Moto X was launched, but there isn't a review comparison with the MOTO G after it was launched, meaning pitting both side by side. SO the user experience factor is still aint a justification for a premium of 8k-10k
raksrules
Oracle
I see a lot of statements that you see people who like iPhones make.. 
It is about user experience
you need to use it to see the difference
Btw if the user experience is good then i hope the same people do not scour XDA forums for a custom ROM.
I am having a feeling that people here also will accept the fact that it is not always about specs but about the entire package and user experience is one of the main elements of that package.
It is about user experience
you need to use it to see the difference
Btw if the user experience is good then i hope the same people do not scour XDA forums for a custom ROM.
I am having a feeling that people here also will accept the fact that it is not always about specs but about the entire package and user experience is one of the main elements of that package.
Sorry didn't get it, what exactly are you looking for?
A lot of reviews are there comparing "G" vs "X".
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/125088-moto-x-vs-moto-g-what-s-the-difference
http://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g-versus-moto-x
I see a lot of statements that you see people who like iPhones make..
It is about user experience
you need to use it to see the difference
To me at least Moto tried something new and moved away from the quad-core, octa-core race.
Sky is the limit, and we are never happy
saying that not everyone goes to XDA or the custom ROM route. Found on XDA that a lot of people actually like Touchwiz.Fair point, sale volume depends on a lot of elements.
Spacescreamer
Innovator
I see a lot of statements that you see people who like iPhones make..
It is about user experience you need to use it to see the difference
Btw if the user experience is good then i hope the same people do not scour XDA forums for a custom ROM.
I am having a feeling that people here also will accept the fact that it is not always about specs but about the entire package and user experience is one of the main elements of that package.
apple products' user experience was never in question. It is the stupid restrictions which really sour the deal.
Add to it, the company is never short of attitude like issuing idiotic statements, lies and never admitting to its flaws which really doesnt helps one bit to the end user.
The user experience + after sales (till the warranty lasts) has been the key to apple.
good for me, less backlogs of people getting X, and more uniqueness to my phone. I'll be getting teak wood version btw
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Pilgrim
Best part. All roms will now work unlike moto g.
And it sells for virtually the same as in the US. When's the last time that happened ? Never. This is the lowest price you will get. If you wait 6 months longer it will appear in shops for the same too.
Kudos to Lenovo for trying innovative selling to keep costs down. Don't know if they can keep it up though. Right now its all about creating brand awareness. Moto is back and hopefully here to stay.[DOUBLEPOST=1395360028][/DOUBLEPOST]
How many people looking in the flagship range will it tempt away is the question.
the g made a strong impact in the midrange.
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I don't know man. Too many blind fanboys who go by specs on paper and benchmarks when they just end up using their flagships for Whatsapp and Chrome. There are people on Flipkart telling you to pay a couple of thousand more to pick up a Galaxy S4 which is kinda ridiculous. It isn't any faster than the Moto X. In fact, it might be slower thanks to its heavy skin.
Sure if you want a really good camera, expandable storage and all that, the S4 is really attractive but people claiming that it's faster than the Moto X because it has "WOW Octa core" or whatever are just plain wrong.
User experience? Hmm. I haven't used a Moto X but I've used the following "Nexus-ish" devices - Nexus 5, Nexus 4 and a Moto G. The Nexus 5 is COMPLETELY lag free from what I saw - If you want iPhone levels of smoothness on Android, this is probably it. The UI feels incredibly fast. The Nexus 4 which I own is pretty darn smooth for what it is, but it's showing signs of aging. There's minor stuttering here and there when scrolling quickly through very large lists like Gmail or lots of unread text messages, but for the most part, it's really smooth. You probably won't notice unless you really try to make it stutter.
The Moto G is fast for the price but it DOES stutter often enough. It isn't entirely lag free like people claim it to be. When you use up the 1GB of RAM, window animations and transitions are prone to stuttering, feeling like they were running at 20fps instead of 60. If stuff like this doesn't bother you like it does me, the Moto G still offers an incredible experience. Most of the time, it's very responsive and far better than anything in the price range. In fact, I'd go so far as to saying it's comparable to a Galaxy S3 or just maaaaybe even an S4 in the UI smoothness department, but this is because the Samsung devices are bogged down by the incredibly heavy Touchwiz skin. A Google Play version of the S4 would probably blow the Moto G out of the water.
Now coming to the Moto X, every review or comparison I've read states that this device feels snappier than a Nexus 4 and slower than the Nexus 5 by a hair. Personally, I saw a pretty big jump from the Moto G to Nexus 4 and a big enough jump from the Nexus 4 to Nexus 5 which is probably as "buttery" as it gets today. Put the Moto X in between the N4 and the N5 and it could give you an estimate of how much smoother and snappier it would be compared to a Moto G. I would pay 8k more for this. Then there are some features which I find incredibly useful like the Active Notifications (yes you can get an app on other devices for this, but it isn't exactly the same), and the Touchless controls along with the Driving assist which automatically detects when you're behind the wheel and switches to voice based input. For me, it's a no brainer. It's also a 4.7" screen vs a 4.5" on the Moto G in a slightly more compact body. To me, that's huge.
However, it's also important to note that the difference between all of these devices could be a matter of mere milliseconds. Some people don't notice the difference at all while others do. I'm in the camp that does, so I'm always trying to find a device that's just that small bit more responsive and lag free. In the end, you'll have to see for yourself.
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One of my friends is looking forward to S5 to be available so that he can upgrade from his S4 which he purchased 4-5 months back. His uses his phone for WhatsApp, texting, calling and taking pictures. Another of my acquaintances uses Note 3 to call, text and use Facebook. I asked the person if he has heard of a phone which has a dedicated CPU for always listening to voice commands, he replied if it has a stylus
So it's not always about specs, benchmark and all, more important how the company markets their products' features.
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Pilgrim
lol, these people should be getting the g instead.
Just want to junk the bogus pricing argument. See that ? importing 2k units costs Rs.19k. Asking price is 5k more. 25% markup as opposed to the typical 100% markup as channel costs in India are expensive.
Whether to go for S4 or moto, is a different argument. It would seem the x is facing stiffer competition than the g.
Will this thread end up with 700+ posts like the g did
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Pilgrim
the iphone smoothness level is easy to understand, they don't try to push a 1080o screen. The Z1 compact is the closest you will get to iphone. Why ? current cpu tech pushing a 720p screen. Phone does not heat up as much when gaming. This is a phone that functions properly.
The problem is vendors want to compete in this stupid specs race. The htc one with the s600 had to push 1080p, then the Z1 came with s800 and it still could not entirely do it. Now when the S1000 (or whatever they call the succesor) comes out vendors will be trying to push more than 1080p and the same problem will persist. a year later with the next gen CPUs. Note that this is most apparent with games or intensive stuff.
S4 Pro wasn't enough to push 720p ?
yes, moto x also has a S4 Pro & pushes 720p
The voice activated features are the USP for X. Remains to be seen how well they are accepted. Will work when ambient sound is low otherwise not.
LG's double tap to start is getting copied by others.
Z 1 C
Course when i compared it to the 5" Z1 on the indian railways site with schedules. i could read the Z1 at arms length whereas i had t put the Z1c closer to my face. I did not like that.
How do people with even smaller screens like iphone ever browse something like that ? Can't be easy to hunt for info on a busy webpage. want raks to address this one.
2. No as it came out last Aug
3. Airtel wants Rs.25
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Sobirvs
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Actually I would say the primary reason why people aren't buying X is because of G lol. The spec sheet of G says quad and people go "omg , why pay 10k more for dual core". These are the people who don't know much at all abt specs. If flipkart would have priced this 20k, I'm sure many would have jumped from nexus 4 to this or even from nexus 5. Motorola planned good pricing for X but they forgot how indian people thinks and are now facing the competition from G :/ anyways, it's still a win-win for them.
AFAIK You can't replace the backs on the Moto X. You're stuck with the one you buy.
No, don't get me wrong. The Nexus 4 is a very snappy phone. I went to Reliance Digital today and compared my Nexus 4 directly with a Nexus 5 there. I couldn't tell a difference during regular tasks such as opening the app drawer, dialer, running a few apps etc. However, if I scroll really fast through my Gmail inbox on my Nexus 4, it drops a few frames sometimes. I don't expect this to happen on a Nexus 5 although I couldn't check at the store because it wasn't connected to a Google account. Another example - I use Google Now Launcher with my Nexus 4. Exiting the app drawer when voice activation is enabled produces a noticeable stutter, reproducible every time. This doesn't happen on the Nexus 5 and I'm guessing it's because the Snapdragon 800 has a dedicated listening core while also being much faster when it comes to raw power.
I must say I'm being extremely nitpicky here. For the most part, the Nexus 4 and even a Moto G are pretty darn smooth. The Moto X and Nexus 5 would be even better. Almost gone are the days when Android was legitimately laggy.
This, pretty much. I think 24k is a really fair price for this excellent device though, one that tries to change the way we use our smartphones. The last time a device tried something daring like this was the original Note with its massive screen and stylus. Although I'm not really a fan of the Galaxy line and their other lower end devices, I have to commend Samsung for coming up with the Note series. But then again, they kinda screwed us over by not giving us the Snapdragon Note 3. We get the Exynos version instead which seemed pretty laggy when I tried it.
What I'm worried about is that if the Moto X doesn't do too well in India, Lenovo may not bother with flagships in the future and only give us budget phones.
Don't think the last part would be true. Lenovo has started concentrating seriously to mobile devices so, they would bring in flagships. It might be or might not be under Motorola brand name though,
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