Front loading or top loading washing machine?

blr_p said:
If the shortest Cottons cycle is used, spin takes up close to half the time. But if the machine is fully loaded as it should be then spin takes up not more than 15% of the total duration. Meaning the most time is spent in the wash cycle. How quiet is Samsung's wash cycle? I bet someone used to an LG would notice how much louder the Samsung is.

None of which you will ever need. The only advantage of a four year warranty is resale value will be better and this is good for migrants. If you don't intend to sell within four years the advantage is superfluous.
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The videos of the LG DD show the decibel level above 70 dB. The Samsung one goes up to 65 dB for the full cycles and is around 55-60 dB for the silent mode which is more for night usage. My previous Bosch one was ridiculously loud in comparison. Since most of us don't own 2 machines to use side by side for comparison, the statement is anecdotal.

The vibration level is also non-existent compared to my older Bosch machine. I keep the washing materials in a tray on top of the machine and it used to be quite violent with the Bosch during the rinse cycle.

Lastly, if LG DD motor is considered more reliable because of a 10-year warranty, then "just on paper" you can say that Samsung has confidence that its motor is more reliable.

Either way, I am not here to work as a shill for these corporates, but just wanted to share my relative experience.
 
t3chg33k said:
The videos of the LG DD show the decibel level above 70 dB. The Samsung one goes up to 65 dB for the full cycles and is around 55-60 dB for the silent mode which is more for night usage. My previous Bosch one was ridiculously loud in comparison. Since most of us don't own 2 machines to use side by side for comparison, the statement is anecdotal.
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I find the most noise coming from the drain pump whenever it comes on. The analogue ones are the noisiest and present on the base model LG's. I don't know if the higher end LG models come with digital pumps which are much quieter as is the case in the US for close to a decade now. Also I've seen Samsung models with DD sold in the US. Never anywhere else.
t3chg33k said:
The vibration level is also non-existent compared to my older Bosch machine. I keep the washing materials in a tray on top of the machine and it used to be quite violent with the Bosch during the rinse cycle.
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Surprising. Am assuming you levelled the bosch correctly. If it was still noisy, the balancing weight inside might have come loose unless it was noisy like this from day 1.
t3chg33k said:
Lastly, if LG DD motor is considered more reliable because of a 10-year warranty, then "just on paper" you can say that Samsung has confidence that its motor is more reliable.
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It just means the motor is the least likely component to develop a fault. Samsung is also betting nobody or very few will still have a working machine come twenty years ;)
 
blr_p said:
I find the most noise coming from the drain pump whenever it comes on. The analogue ones are the noisiest and present on the base model LG's. I don't know if the higher end LG models come with digital pumps which are much quieter as is the case in the US for close to a decade now. Also I've seen Samsung models with DD sold in the US. Never anywhere else.

Surprising. Am assuming you levelled the bosch correctly. If it was still noisy, the balancing weight inside might have come loose unless it was noisy like this from day 1.

It just means the motor is the least likely component to develop a fault. Samsung is also betting nobody or very few will still have a working machine come twenty years ;)
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It is possible. I used a fixed metal stand previously. For the new machine, I am using a stand with independent wheels and levelling adjustment which probably helps.
 
t3chg33k said:
Because it is in a confined space and just accumulates a lot of dirt
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This is the small space under/around the machine?

Why do you care about that. I've never moved my machine to do this. However it does show some signs of rusting at the bottom as it's in the bathroom.

Can't do anything about that and other than cosmetic which in any case is out of sight will not be an issue.

I think this is an India only quirk. They don't use stands with frontloaders elsewhere.
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if not moved and cleaned regularly.
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Best of luck maintaining a consistent level there :rolleyes:

Hint: Don't use a stand. To then shift it about is frickin' insane.
 
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blr_p said:
This is the small space under the machine?

Why do you care about that. I've never moved my machine to do this. However it does show some signs of rusting at the bottom as it's in the bathroom.

Can't do anything about that and other than cosmetic which in any case is out of sight will not be an issue.
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Yes, it is a preallocated space in the kitchen from the time the flat was built. The builder did a great job of putting only couple of inches deep J-pipe at the water outlet that eventually clogs out and is behind the machine. Mainly it is the lint that blocks out this outlet and thus needs cleaning as otherwise the outlet water spills out and mixes with the accumulated dust.
 
t3chg33k said:
Yes, it is a preallocated space in the kitchen from the time the flat was built. The builder did a great job of putting only couple of inches deep J-pipe at the water outlet that eventually clogs out and is behind the machine.
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If you're renting then you have to live with it. I had a stand pipe put in as recommended in the user manual

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Mainly it is the lint that blocks out this outlet and thus needs cleaning as otherwise the outlet water spills out and mixes with the accumulated dust.
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I don't get this bit. Whatever lint should be caught by the drain filter. I don't get any blockages as there is enough room for drainage.
 
blr_p said:
If you're renting then you have to live with it. I had a stand pipe put in as recommended in the user manual


I don't get this bit. Whatever lint should be caught by the drain filter. I don't get any blockages as there is enough room for drainage.
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Not renting, but it is a stupid design by the builder. At least in my earlier machine, the filter didn't catch all of it. Let's see how it goes, have to live with it.
 
To all top-load washing machine users: How do you deal with the small white spots left on clothes after a wash cycle? They’re not stains but more like tiny fibers or residue stuck to the fabric. Could this be detergent residue? If so, how do you manage or prevent it?
 
kshitijrawat said:
To all top-load washing machine users: How do you deal with the small white spots left on clothes after a wash cycle? They’re not stains but more like tiny fibers or residue stuck to the fabric. Could this be detergent residue? If so, how do you manage or prevent it?
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Are you using a powder detergent?

If so try dissolving it in some warm water and then adding the mixture to the wash.

Is this something that has recently happened?
 
kshitijrawat said:
To all top-load washing machine users: How do you deal with the small white spots left on clothes after a wash cycle? They’re not stains but more like tiny fibers or residue stuck to the fabric. Could this be detergent residue? If so, how do you manage or prevent it?
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From your description, they could be lint - tiny pieces of fabric that gets broken in the process of washing. Many machines have a lint catcher into which the lint accumulates over time - check somewhere to the side of the inside of the wash tub. If we don't clean this for a long time, then the lint stays on the clothes.

If it's detergent residue, liquid detergent might help. Though even the powder detergent sold as machine wash detergent generally has a lower tendency to stick like that.
 
blr_p said:
Why do people use a stand?
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Umm because of higher ground clearance for cleaning? Without that you can't use jhadu under it. At least not for our old ifb. Another thing, and that's more important to me, is insects, lizards especially. They simply take refuge under it, with a stand not so much.

In any case, due to vibrations I had to sit the machine back on the floor directly. I hate stands, really do. But they do have their advantages, especially in this country, which can't be compared with other countries which don't have to deal with even fraction of insects, and dust too.
 
sauravghosh said:
Umm because of higher ground clearance for cleaning? Without that you can't use jhadu under it.
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Why do you need to clean under it?
sauravghosh said:
At least not for our old ifb. Another thing, and that's more important to me, is insects, lizards especially. They simply take refuge under it, with a stand not so much.
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My machine is in the bathroom and there is nothing under there. Other than some dust which you don't get much of in a bathroom anyway.

If there is a chance for any food to slip under then you may have insects.
sauravghosh said:
In any case, due to vibrations I had to sit the machine back on the floor directly. I hate stands, really do.
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Right
sauravghosh said:
But they do have their advantages, especially in this country, which can't be compared with other countries which don't have to deal with even fraction of insects, and dust too.
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If the machine is outdoors or in a veranda this might happen. I still think a stand isn't necessary here.

Rather, make very sure you have some sort of cover or rat guard securely installed. Cockroaches if they decide to make a home inside can play havoc with the display electronics.

The reason its called a rat guard is because only with a stand can a rat ever enter from the bottom. Without a stand this problem cannot occur.

Interestingly what is called rat guard here is called noise reducer abroad :)
 
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