Guide Full guide to build a cheap and powerful HTPC !

I checked that there are quite a few threads on building HTPC's in TE, but what prompted me to write a new one in my blog is because there are quite a few changes from a few months ago in the HTPC world, specifically with XBMC. So what has changed now ?

Hardware acceleration has been added in Windows 7 via DXVA2 in XBMC 10.0 which released in Dec 2010. What this effectively means is that if you use a supported graphics card, XBMC will offload all the video rendering to the card (Remember that this option is available only in Windows Vista and Windows 7, not in Windows XP). You will see the effect this small change has on the choice of hardware in your HTPC.

First things first, the hardware list. I will categorize a few items with a *Splurge*, which means you can blow up the money on them if you are really interested in reducing the noise to a minimum or looks to the maximum in the machine :

1. CPU : When I used to build HTPC's a few months ago, I used to go with a decent CPU and motherboard, specifically a Intel Pentium Dual core E5300 to E5700 and a good mini-itx motherboard with inbuilt graphics support. This used to result in a system that is capable of handling almost every movie I threw at it, save for movies encoded with extravagantly high bitrates.

As of today, the CPU has lesser role in the HTPC. so you can reuse any old cpu that you have and it will work great. Im currently reusing a old Athlon X2 3600+ and it works just fantastic.

In short, if you are setting up a new system, get a Pentium Dual core E5700 for Rs 3000. Else reuse any decent CPU from the last 5 years.

2. Motherboard : Trust me, just go and get the most basic and cheapest micro-atx motherboard that you can lay your hands on. Just make sure it matches the socket for the CPU that you purchased. The ASUS M2N68-AM is a simple choice for about Rs 2000 if you are going the AMD way and the Intel G31/41 motherboards are similarly priced.

The choice of the board will also depend of whether you have any old DDR2 memory sticks lying around. If you have even a single 1gb DDR2 stick with you, go for a DDR2 board. Else stick your neck out and go for DDR3. Im reusing a old Asus AM2 motherboard that was lying around as I had a extra stick of 2gb DDR2 with me.

Splurge : If you have the moolah to blow up, you can get a mini-itx motherboard from the US, or if you are plain lucky, you might get it in India. Mini-itx boards are definitely better looking when assembled in a small case, but the boards cost upwards of 5k.

Cabinet : The big question with very few answers in India. The cabinet is what brings in the eye candy from your friends when you showoff, it does not matter how much you blew up on the components inside the box, the cabinet needs to look good. Unless you want to buy a cheapo cabinet from iball, I would recommend three choices:

Choice 1 : Cooler Master Elite 360

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A beautiful cabinet that has all the quality you need and has a horizontal layout so that you can keep it near your receiver. One of the best things about this cabinet is that the PSU sits in the front and blows air out from the front. So if you have woodwork done and the cabinet sits in a closed enclosure, this will allow the air to come out from the front. Priced between 2k-3k on ebay.

Choice 2 : Silverstone SG02B (My personal preference)

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PrimeABGB is currently running a great offer till new year where you get a Silverstone 500w PSU free with the Silverstone SG02B cabinet. The cabinet itself costs 4.5k otherwise and is a compact one that can take Mini/Micro motherboards. Looks good and is a Silverstone, what more do I say.

eBay India: Silverstone SG02B cabinet plus Silverstone 500W SMPS

Choice 3 : CFI Cube

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If you have already blown money in getting a Mini-itx case, this cabinet will work well for you as it only takes mini-itx boards. Costs 1.6k with a 150w PSU inbuilt (might be a little less, but seems to work well for a Pentium Dual core.

eBay India: CFI Cube Cabinet

PSU : Any Basic PSU of 250w will do as the machine is not a power guzzler. On the other hand, as most experienced folks in TE will tell you, this is one component where you should gladly put in a little more money and get peace of mind.

*Splurge* : Get a good PSU with a 120mm fan. This will reduce the PSU noise to a bare minimum. I personally got a Corsair CX400 for 3k.

eBay India: Corsair CX400 Power Supply

But you will do equally well with either of FSP Saga II 350W or Gigabyte 400w from your TE dealers.

CPU cooler : Since the CPU will not be stressed much, you can tweak the bois to run the fan at the lowest necessary speed and save on money.

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*Splurge* : Get the Cooler Master Vortex Plus CPU cooler. It is a low height CPU cooler for Intel and AMD and works cool and quiet with a 92mm fan, meant specifically for building HTPC. You cannot just hear anything when the machine is idling. Available locally for Rs 1700.

Video Card : I definitely do not want to get into a ATI versus NVidia war here, but we cannot go much wrong with either here. The Linux support is better for NVidia, but for the DXVA2 support that we need, Radeon works equally well.

My personal preference is the Radeon HD5450 passive cooled card. Passive cooler, great technology and good support in XBMC. Most importantly, it has support for 7.1 Bitrate Audio. Effectively means that you can pass pristine Audio via the HDMI to your receiver and the video to the TV from the receiver. So Dolby TrueHD and DTS MasterHD over HDMI: a necessary addition for serious Home Theatre enthusiasts.

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I picked up the HIS HD5450 Silence for 2.9k shipped via our own TE dealers. Comes with extra brackets for small cases.

HIS Radeon cards

Audio :

If you do not want to use the HDMI out for audio, or if you have a older receiver that can only take optical output, you can add a Turtle beach Micro II USB adaptor for unprocessed sound via optical output. Costs about Rs 1500 in India via Global ebay. The reason Im suggesting the USB adaptor rather than a full fledged PCI card is because the PCI card will use up a slot in the machine, leading to less airflow.

This is the USB Adaptor: http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/sound-cards/audio-advantage-micro-ii.aspx

If you want pristine 7.1 bitstream via optical output, I would also suggest the Turtle Beach Montego 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card. It is a awesome sound card. Available for Rs 3500 via global ebay. This card is supported out of the box in XBMC.

Hard drive : You want a cool and fast hard drive. Two choices based on how your media is available for viewing. If you already have a NAS server hosting your movies, get a cheap and small hard drive, preferably WD green or Blue. If your HTPC will also host your movies, get a WD Greeen 2tb drive and use the first 20gb for XBMC and the rest to store your movies.

*Splurge* : Get a Super talent 16gb SSD card from Global ebay for 3k. Or if you want to splurge more, get a OCZ 40gb Vertex 2 SSD for 5.5k with local warranty. And the XBMC box will boot up crazy fast, will run cool and zero noise :hap2: !

DVD drive : Just pick any of the LG or Samsung DVD writers for 1k. This will become your default DVD player. Liteon drives are great, but they make a little more noise than I would like on a media center.

*Splurge* : I have personally not used a Blu-ray drive, but I do not see why they will not work. If you have the moolah, get a Blu-ray reader for 6k !!! It will work full fledged as a blu-ray player as XBMC gets better.

Media Remote : You need a simple remote control to sit on the couch and control the movie. I would recommend the USB IR Media Remote Controller for PC. It works very well on XBMC without any configuration and is cheap.

DealExtreme: Universal USB IR Media Remote Controller

Also, I personally wanted to use my existing Logitech Harmony remote with this setup. The code to use the Logitech Harmony with the above USB IR adaptor is Chinavasion CVSB-983 ! Works flawlessly without any changes.

*Splurge* : If you want some geek factor, get the Lenovo Multimedia Remote with Keyboard for $35 :clap:

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Its a unique combination and works great with XBMC. Only downside, no backlight when you are sitting in pitch darkness and want to press a key.

And that is all you need !!!

Assemble the stuff, install Windows 7, video drivers and download and install XBMC 10.0. Once XBMC is installed, the key is to make sure that you enable DXVA2 in XBMC.

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If you need more info on this, go to the official link.

How To: Enable Hardware Accelerated Decoding via DXVA2 in XBMC for Windows - XBMC

And that is it, connect the Video card via HDMI to your HD capable TV and enjoy the movies via XBMC. If all goes well, the cool and quiet machine you just assembled should be purring along showing a CPU usage of less then 5% to render the most complicated of movies and pass pristine audio to your receiver.

Some of you might have already seen the famous "killa sampla" scene which wrecks havox when rendered by any CPU without hardware rendering support (Including my AMD X6). Well, XBMC used to suffer and shudder when it would try to render this video, but with DVXA support, it plays flawlessly on my old Athlon X2.

Download the full video, but check it out in 1080p in Youtube !

YouTube - Bird 42 MBit ABR + 1 5 MBit

I personally built my new HTPC using a old AMD X2, a older AM2 motherboard and DDR2 memory. :hap2: You can also put your old machine to good use and spend a little to assemble a great HTPC.
 

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The 5xxx ati cards were not supported by my older motherboard. I did the mistake of not checking before buying it :(.

So had to upgraded my rig, check my signature for details of the new build.

And i'm loving the upgrade so far for around 17k (Hdds and monitor not included in that price)

Cheers :)
 
This is a great clean and basic guide for a good HTPC. I have been looking to get a HD media player, but I'm not sure what are the advantages a HTPC offers over a standalone media player like a WDTV/AC Ryan Playon

I guess a HD player like WDTV will cost about 6k and a good HTPC like the one mentioined in the thread will take about 15k. What are the advantages of the HTPC over a HD Player other than optical drive playback?? Is the cost difference justified (Maybe in terms of Picture quality, sound quality etc etc)??
 
memnom said:
Guys the HD5450 works with G31 mobos right? if not i would cancel the order with purnamtech. do let me know.
Of course it works. I have the same combination in my friends PC.

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Good question. Why a BMW when a Maruti does the same job of moving you from Place A to B ?

It is not just about the playing of the files. A HTPC is about a "complete ecosystem" and "experience" of seeing movies. It allows you so much information and configuration in the way you see movies, browse via Movie covers, the way you get cast information, fan art, imdb information & ratings and more. It is about being able to process certain video/audio formats on the Fly. For example, most AV receivers cannot process AAA audio, a XBMC has the option of converting this to AC3 on the fly. And support for the cool multimedia & HTPC remotes.

And extensibility. If a new audio/video format comes out a year down the line, good chance the WDTV will not play it, but the HTPC will. Im stuck with the first generation WDTV in my bedroom, plays everything today, but firmware development is stopped.

vpraveenis said:
This is a great clean and basic guide for a good HTPC. I have been looking to get a HD media player, but I'm not sure what are the advantages a HTPC offers over a standalone media player like a WDTV/AC Ryan Playon

I guess a HD player like WDTV will cost about 6k and a good HTPC like the one mentioined in the thread will take about 15k. What are the advantages of the HTPC over a HD Player other than optical drive playback?? Is the cost difference justified (Maybe in terms of Picture quality, sound quality etc etc)??
 
Friends,

I want to have a decent fanless,lowpower HTPC to replace my existing xtreamer with xbmc/boxee based PC.

Interestingly these days there are nice Mini ITX mobo's launched based on atom D525 + ION2_GPU, which seems perfect for 1080p video application.

Asus and Zotac are already selling these D525 based Motherboards, but i am not sure if they are available easily in india!

I am just excited to see how xtreamer ultra would perform when launched(expected price is around 200Euros)

Similar product from zotac also looks promising for 260USD on amazon

I plan to wait for 1-2 months before i decide on anything,

in the mean time if anyone finds info on availability of D525+ION2 Motherboard in India at reasonable price(around10k) please share your experience.
 
Couple of question.

Hello friends,

I want to build a HTPC using my old rig. I have few questions. I am grateful if someone help me.

1. Is Mini Plug to Toslink adopter only produce stereo sound from computer analog output (Green one) or should I go for Turtle Beach Micro II?
2. Does DVI to HDMI converter produce same result as original HDMI or should I go for new GFX card? (I have NVDIA 8600)

also if you know a good media remote for HTPC then please suggest. I want to purchase it locally not the Dealextreme one. They took long time to ship :(
 
Re: Couple of question.

SudipBasu said:
Hello friends,

I want to build a HTPC using my old rig. I have few questions. I am grateful if someone help me.

1. Is Mini Plug to Toslink adopter only produce stereo sound from computer analog output (Green one) or should I go for Turtle Beach Micro II?

2. Does DVI to HDMI converter produce same result as original HDMI or should I go for new GFX card? (I have NVDIA 8600)

also if you know a good media remote for HTPC then please suggest. I want to purchase it locally not the Dealextreme one. They took long time to ship :(
1. The output is digital with the toslink adapter. Used when you want the Dolby D/DTS signals to be fed to a receiver/speaker capable of decoding these signals. Do you have one such unit?

2. Same results.

Get the same Lenovo keyboard from eBay instead - eBay India: Lenovo's Mini Wireless Keyboard N5901 REmote keyboard (item 120688478700 end time 02-Mar-2011 09:00:00 IST)
 
Re: Couple of question.

Thanx Gannu

I have Onkyo receiver with Dolby Digital/DTS 5.1. So should I go with the Mini Plug to Toslink adopter or Turtle Beach Micro II is the only solution for digital sound.
 
Im not sure of this. The miniplug to TOSLINk would work only if the sound card is capable of supporting the digital output option on a certain port, you just cannot connect it to the green output in the sound card and expect digital sound. If you have to buy the adaptor, might as well play safe and get the turtle beach, else I would not spend money on the adaptor without making sure.
 
vinayaga said:
Im not sure of this. The miniplug to TOSLINk would work only if the sound card is capable of supporting the digital output option on a certain port, you just cannot connect it to the green output in the sound card and expect digital sound. If you have to buy the adaptor, might as well play safe and get the turtle beach, else I would not spend money on the adaptor without making sure.
True that. For instance, the Xonar DX has a similar provision wherein the 3.5mm jack can be converted to a toslink out with the supplied adapter.

Else you can always rely on a DIY-coaxial out from the motherboard. Refer this guide - http://www.techenclave.com/guides-and-tutorials/digital-output-from-onboard-audio-118758.html
 
Thanx vinayaga and Gannu for replying. So what I understand that I should go for Turtle Beach Micro II. Yes you are right its not safe to spend money on the converter. Sadly no Indian seller selling the Turtle Beach. I have to order it from Ebay GEB. its 2.2K approx. I will post my experiences after I complete the HTPC. again thanx for your valuable input guys.
 
SudipBasu said:
Thanx vinayaga and Gannu for replying. So what I understand that I should go for Turtle Beach Micro II. Yes you are right its not safe to spend money on the converter. Sadly no Indian seller selling the Turtle Beach. I have to order it from Ebay GEB. its 2.2K approx. I will post my experiences after I complete the HTPC. again thanx for your valuable input guys.
Less than 150 bucks will get you that DIY coaxial out. Seems wise to me over spending 2.2k and the GEB hassles.
 
I need to check if my motherboard has SPDIF header or not. If its there then following the tutorial is very easy. I will check when I returned home from office. Gannu I will contact you if its there :P

But isn't it toslink is better carrier of DTS?
 
^Your board would most definitely have a spdif header. Almost all present-gen motherboards do.
I am not sure which out of toslink/coax does it better but since it's a digital signal, both of them should ideally do the same job. Toslink cables cannot tolerate bending beyond a certain limit owing to internal reflections which may degrade the sound quality. OTOH improper shielding on the RCA cables can as well result in drop-outs.

Vinayaga, apologies for the OT!
 
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