Gaming mouse, does it make a difference?

the mouse is only a month old...i never used it on a table/other surfaces.....used on a local pad.......
is it ruined already??....:cry:
anything i can do?....i dont want to buy *expensive* pads.....if changin the pad is the only alternative.....which good pad is a VFM ?...
 
Bahhh... Dont worry that much... you can get New feets later for the mouse :p... They are available... And its comman for feets to get scrached... Dont be upset... Though try getting a good pad... Not for the mouse but for better experience while gaming...
 
^^ u sure it is available?....where in bangalore is it available..the thing is i am very comfortable with the pad i am having...& if i upgrade itd' be for the sake of the teflon of the mouse only...:(
 
Nikhil said:
Bumping this old thread for a reason..... typed "Do gaming mice make a difference" on google and this was the FIRST result!!! :eek:hyeah:

Anyway to reopen the debate..... DO GAMING MICE REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I am using my MX 700 as of now..... IT has been skipping a bit off late....

So, do you guys thing getting a better mouse will improve my game ?? I am not a pro anyway..... meaning, I dont have lightning fast reflexes....

and how does this DPI EXACTLY help ?? I know it is DOTs per inch. And the higher the DPI, the more space you can cover with less movement.

but what abt accuracy and all.... how do you measure lag ?? and when they say mice like 518/CH/ G5 are very very accurate, what exactly do you mean ?

Coz I have a good mouse right now. A very good one in fact. I dont want to upgrade to a new one for just a minute increase in my skills...
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sheeesh.....you buggers.... I needed advice :p

Anyway some help here ??

And how does DPI make a difference ?? If it is only the speed, then that can be accomplished even on my MX 700 by increasing sensitivity, right??
 
helps a alot, but ppl should use mice which fit in there palms, ive seen ppl gettin these huge mice when there hand cant even handle em and they r all figiting with it and blaming it LOL
 
hmm i was talking about this to rio today.. it looks like nikhil and many others require some help with stuff regarding mice. i've experimented a lot with them so i'm thinking of writing a guide which will hopefully answer these kinda questions. these days there are so many mice which don't skip but they all try to outdo each other with technical specifications. some of them may matter in game, some are absolutely useless marketing gimmicks. therefore, it's not gonna be a mouse review but rather a guide that aims at helping people choosing their gaming mouse, pros and cons of certain common mice and also pointing out general misconceptions regarding mice jargon. would any of you like this?

also, do i need some kinda special permissions to write a guide? i.e be an admin or mod?

@nikhil, in short, DPI doesn't make much of a difference unless you're playing at very high sensitivity or high resolutions. two of the top Quake 4 players today, Cooller and Toxic use the MS Wheel mouse optical which is a 'mere' 400 dpi. you should see Toxic's aim :p
 
Aditya said:
How about AshR write one on Mice.. and I write one on Mousepads :p.. Itll be easier on him. Lol.
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how abt i steal both ur ideas.... every one knows how i am with guides and articles :p

@nikhil:

DPI just doesnt mean more speed.... ofcourse the first direct translation is Higher speed because a LOT more is being read per inch.... so a lot of deltas are being sent to the CPU as you move the mouse.....

but the direct effect is somewhat subtle and "noobs" wont notice it per se........ because it requires certain maturity in aiming to actually show up as a factor.....

i will try to show you what i mean:



Suppose you come to this scenario zoomed in with your AWP.... Ok, you see the enemy..... 3 parts of him, 2 enough to kill him and 1 enough to get his hp down to 15/16.... BUT how exactly do you aim at the "small" exposed parts?

A high DPI mouse like a Copperhead ON a smooth mating surface like MANTIS SPEED will enable you to AIM there faster..... for PROs (and veteran awpers) it is almost a drag..... but for newbies, the aiming part becomes easier becaus ethe high DPI allows them to aim EACH and every pixel in a fast and smooth motion..... which is exactly WHAT is absent in the LOW DPI mouse.

Now: difference between GOOD class HIGH DPI, LOW DPI.....

Ok now both the mouse have good sensors and down skip.... whats the difference? Well there is ONE big difference..... How fast do you wanna aim the guy? Becuase the LOW DPI version will have to cover more MOUSE PAD area to get the place and take a shot compared to its HIGH DPI sibling, it puts a little disadvantage on your side. Which can be the deciding factor between killing the guy and dieing....

I hope I made it clear enough....

Ofcourse there are people like Me and Aditya who use LOW sensitivity with 2000 dpi.... we do it for ultimate accuracy (for me, cuz I awp, for Ad1 because he is almost always the first one in, there you NEED to kill the guy FAST, and that requires insane AIM....).... and there are people like Rave who will bamboozle you with the SPEED of their aims..... insane :S
 
Thanks Karan!!

But now, with my 800 DPI mouse, if I increase the sensi in the mouse option in CSS, then also, I can cover more area on the screen in lesser time right ??

Or wait, maybe lesser time is different from lesser area on the mousepad
 
Yea same question as nikhil here too, wont increasing the sensi in game have the same effect as having a higher dpi mouse?

Btw: l33t paint skills karan :p
 
Nikhil said:
Thanks Karan!!

But now, with my 800 DPI mouse, if I increase the sensi in the mouse option in CSS, then also, I can cover more area on the screen in lesser time right ??

Or wait, maybe lesser time is different from lesser area on the mousepad
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was chatting with Nikhil and he asked me about this:

answer:

when you use insane sensitivities in game and in windows, you are actually IMPLODING whatever falacies that may be present in the Mouse sensor.... it wasnt apparent when you were at low sensis, but by bumping up the sensis, you are multiplying the speed as well as the "skipping" problem. Hence a 800-dpi mouse which was damn accurate at 3 sensi, will NO longer be that accurate at 6 sensi.

also, to ensure you are getting the best out of your hardware:

- turn off "Enhance Pointer Precision".... it actually deteriorates the precision to a large extent.....

- use a low base sensi in windows..... like 3/4/5

- use a relatively low sensi in game.... a value which allows you to freely AIM around.... not having to come back to target because you overshot it and stuff like that....

- add "-noforcemparms -noforcemspd -noforcemaccel" to your game startup options: go to steam games menu, right click on the game name and you will Properties.... there is a option in there to add options to startup, just copy paste the stuff above in quotes ^^ (w/o the quotes ofcourse) and there you go....

- turn off the "acceleration" option inside the game.... under "Mouse"

Hope this helps....
 
hunt3r said:
Yea same question as nikhil here too, wont increasing the sensi in game have the same effect as having a higher dpi mouse?

Btw: l33t paint skills karan :p
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hehehe, i know, my l33t paint skillz Rul3z all :D and that was with a -200 dpi Dell OEM ball mouse.... i am sure i woul dhave done a better job with my ch.... on my mantis :p
 
- add "-noforcemparms -noforcemspd -noforcemaccel" to your game startup options: go to steam games menu, right click on the game name and you will Properties.... there is a option in there to add options to startup, just copy paste the stuff above in quotes ^^ (w/o the quotes ofcourse) and there you go....
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How does this help ??
 
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