Google announces Chrome OS

This was to come one day......

Microsoft will be shaken by this...
Will Chrome perform upto MS

we have to wait and see :bleh:
 
Party Monger said:
This wil probably be a dud..

They are again use linux as the base..

One must understand the major reason people use windows is because they dont have to deal with "driver problems" cause windows supports a very wide array of devices, secondly because they maintain compatibility with old programs that used to run on Win 95 or even DOS..

I expected google's attempt at an os to be much more stronger, and not just a shell on linux base..

What i expected:-

1) Some way they could use windows drivers and not require new drivers..

2) Something more than just fast and simple..something innovative..

Well, then thank god you don't work in the OS marketing department ;). Google's direction makes perfect sense to me:

1. Start on the small scale with a relatively less complex product (Android)

2. Move to the middle division where overheads and complexities can still be kept low (netbook territory)

3. Finally make a proper desktop-worthy operating system that can offer a competitive experience to Windows.

There's a long while to go for that last bit, I feel. At least a couple of years. I expect to see Google do something similar to what Intel did with Moblin and Asus with its linux-based Eee PC variant. I guess we need to wait and watch to find out.
 
Party Monger said:
You wont need to educate me abt linux..I know its reach in almost al ways possible and when i made that comment you should have analysed it in depth..
Lol, look like you got offended.Trust me, I didn't mean to offend you :cool:

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When i said driver support i didnt mean generic support. For Eg: my laptop's audio out sounds awesome on Win7, while its trashy on ubuntu..
you must be using some proprietary hardware that is why support is poor;)
Secondly its not the manufacturer's problem that an Os is not popular/good enough to be supported with proper drivers..
While it might not be suited for purposes like gaming or DTP.Linux is well suited for average joe's everyday use. nearly all hardware is supported out of the box, leaving few exceptions.
 
Gaurish said:
Lol, look like you got offended.Trust me, I didn't mean to offend you :cool:

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When i said driver support i didnt mean generic support. For Eg: my laptop's audio out sounds awesome on Win7, while its trashy on ubuntu..

you must be using some proprietary hardware that is why support is poor;)
While it might not be suited for purposes like gaming or DTP.Linux is well suited for average joe's everyday use. nearly all hardware is supported out of the box, leaving few exceptions.

But the question is what are the needs of average joe's. The linux is developed for the developers but not the users. Most of the requests/features by so called average joe's are ignored by the developers, and the reason linux is still the operating system for the basement nerds/geeks but not the mainstream junta. Finally most of the software don't work out of box and linux as desktop is slower than windows for many reasons.
 
tracerbullet said:
Well, then thank god you don't work in the OS marketing department ;). Google's direction makes perfect sense to me:
1. Start on the small scale with a relatively less complex product (Android)
2. Move to the middle division where overheads and complexities can still be kept low (netbook territory)
3. Finally make a proper desktop-worthy operating system that can offer a competitive experience to Windows.

There's a long while to go for that last bit, I feel. At least a couple of years. I expect to see Google do something similar to what Intel did with Moblin and Asus with its linux-based Eee PC variant. I guess we need to wait and watch to find out.

Lol..

Android, netbook, desktop. Right, I dont think thats the strategy google is employing so i'l avoid the pain and not comment..;)
@Gaurish:- I didnt take any offense but shud have analysed my comment instead of just commenting telling me linux's pros..
When we talk of google wanting to take over the OS market, it can do so by one upping windows 7 or corresponding OS, You wont trade your awesome Os for a POS OS which will rather prove to be a downgrade..
What you are suggesting is simply the apple way, if google is happy with 5-7% of the desktop market like apple, then it seems like a fair attempt..else im dissappointed..

As for the drivers, google will provide drivers for the hardware that comes with the system, what about web cams, bluetooth adapters, cell phones and others?
Understand the point instead of going by just the examples, the end user doesnt care abt proprietary or non proprietary shit..they jsut want the hardware to work with out hassle..

Only good thing i can see is that linux will get a boost since it will lead to mroe users and the basic underlying component is Linux, hence once people open up to Google OS, they wil indirectly open up to Linux and its various flavors..:cool2:
 
kallu_be said:
But the question is what are the needs of average joe's. The linux is developed for the developers but not the users. Most of the requests/features by so called average joe's are ignored by the developers, and the reason linux is still the operating system for the basement nerds/geeks but not the mainstream junta. Finally most of the software don't work out of box and linux as desktop is slower than windows for many reasons.

I Do Agree that Commercial OS like Windows have more polished desktops experience but Linux distros Like Ubuntu aren't far behind. try KDE4 - Its UI is totally revamped and looks new age. plus you should remember its all free. for commercial solution, you have to spend 10grand on software licenses alone.

By average Joe, I meant Someone who does basic tasks like Surfing the internet,checking e-mail,Office applications etc.

Party Monger said:
When we talk of google wanting to take over the OS market, it can do so by one upping windows 7 or corresponding OS, You wont trade your awesome Os for a POS OS which will rather prove to be a downgrade..

What you are suggesting is simply the apple way, if google is happy with 5-7% of the desktop market like apple, then it seems like a fair attempt..else im dissappointed..

hmmm...How much google succeeds that time will tell. going by their track record chances are higher.

Understand the point instead of going by just the examples, the end user doesnt care abt proprietary or non proprietary shit..they jsut want the hardware to work with out hassle..

If user is ignorant/uninformed nothing much can be done. A user should always check driver support for the OS, he intents to run the hardware on before buying.

Buying Unsupported hardware and then claiming OS for not supporting it; is totally stupid.I am talking in general sense for all OSes
 
Gaurish said:
I Do Agree that Commercial OS like Windows have more polished desktops experience but Linux distros Like Ubuntu aren't far behind. try KDE4 - Its UI is totally revamped and looks new age. plus you should remember its all free. for commercial solution, you have to spend 10grand on software licenses alone.

By average Joe, I meant Someone who does basic tasks like Surfing the internet,checking e-mail,Office applications etc.

I am presently posting this message using linux, kde 4.3rc1, that will clarify some of the things. I will agree with you only when every browser plugin like (google video chat etc) available for linux, when i get out of box working application like gtalk and yahoo messenger, when (hellslow) openoffice is 100% compatible with MS office binary formats and when ooffice UI uses gtk or qt and independent of java.
 
i am not a software expert, so knowledge is limited, yes it may take more time to boot up a pc running windows . but for google chrome os is an extention of their cloud computing platform , where data is stored online, apps such as google docs etc need internet connection to access, so if majority of features in chrome os need internet connection , then that would be limiting factor, and in past few months there have been instances where google have been affected like outage in may where millions where not able to acess google services for hours. imagine not able to acess important spreadsheets and documents and data due to net failure.
 
"web OS" kind of devices are getting hotter (with apologies to Palm Pre).... see the upcoming "CrunchPad" I thought it was just hypothetical (similar to a Google Chrome OS device) but looks like they will release that too... in fact Im sure Google were forced to reveal their plans early because CrunchPad was announced just recently! :D
 
^^How many times you have used linux that you are calling it complicated. Call yourself stuck with Windows rather than saying Linux complex :p

Anyway this is a win win for linux, Creative already Open Sourced their driver [XFI sypport coming from kernel X.31] and so does rest will follow the trend..As far as driver support in Windows and Win7 it doesn't even configure my audio and printer so that I can use it :|

And what Redmond is thinking that I will buy a new device for the OS ? :|

Windows 7 is no wonder, they just lower the requirements and change the wallpaper along with some HDR effecs .. People are getting crazy see the windows preview in the panel :| Mind you it has been with Linux ever since compiz was released.

Now wonder I still find Win7 quite slow and sluggish as compared to my tux setup.
 
All this chatter is just another linux vs windows story. In any case, I find it really hard to see much penetration in India unless the broadband scene changes here.

Chrome is primarily an Internet OS, and it will be just people like you and me in the forum + a handful others who will be trying this.

Don't count on your next door Raju with a Super fast Pentium 4 Dual Core with a 2MBPS connection with a 1GB data limit to use this.
 
Gaurish said:
you must be using some proprietary hardware that is why support is poor;)

They why is the audio in my home linux PC sound ridiculous too and why can't I use my TV Tuner card even when I try all available tv apps in linux?

Linux is good for use in servers that do lot of multitasking, but for home use, there no question windows is the only OS capable of doing everything you want a home PC to do.
 
desiibond said:
They why is the audio in my home linux PC sound ridiculous too and why can't I use my TV Tuner card even when I try all available tv apps in linux?

Linux is good for use in servers that do lot of multitasking, but for home use, there no question windows is the only OS capable of doing everything you want a home PC to do.

Well, I am not interested in Windows vs Linux Debate so I won't answer. if you really want answers to your linux troubles, Just open a new thread. I would be glad to help :)
 
Well, It would generate lot of buzz as google isn't alone.

The Google Chrome OS team is currently working with a number of technology companies to design and build devices that deliver an extraordinary end user experience. Among others, these companies include Acer, Adobe, ASUS, Freescale, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, Qualcomm, Texas Instruments, and Toshiba.
They got almost everyone except Microsoft:p
 
i fear the track record of google is not that good when it comes to privacy , just look at the some of terms of conditions in some of the google software for example when chrome browser came out there was this clause in terms of services which stated that google had right to license any content that went through the browser, which later it had to retract from , then look at gmail , it was the first email services which actually went through ur email or conversation u are having ,for example just send an email regarding taking a holiday in shimla, u will surprised to find holiday advertising in ur page, then take google desktop for example which tracks which websites ur visiting so that it can serve u with personalised news. how much google may try to be a software company , point is more 95 % of its revenue came from advertising, so all its software are geared to provide data to company so that it can provide better results in advertising.
 
rock8549 said:
i fear the track record of google is not that good when it comes to privacy , just look at the some of terms of conditions in some of the google software for example when chrome browser came out there was this clause in terms of services which stated that google had right to license any content that went through the browser, which later it had to retract from , then look at gmail , it was the first email services which actually went through ur email or conversation u are having ,for example just send an email regarding taking a holiday in shimla, u will surprised to find holiday advertising in ur page, then take google desktop for example which tracks which websites ur visiting so that it can serve u with personalised news. how much google may try to be a software company , point is more 95 % of its revenue came from advertising, so all its software are geared to provide data to company so that it can provide better results in advertising.

So your point is?

What I mean to know, how is it a bad thing?

The only downside I see, is if you have a lot of "dirty" emails, you will have probably a few viagra adverts... :p
 
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