Graphic Cards GTX 570 or HD 6970?

[The Knight]

Which is best any why? Is both card can run on Corsair HX650?

 

[babloos]

u can even do crossfire/sli on that psu

 

[ALPHA17]

The GTX 570 cuts closely while running on the Corsair HX650 while the AMD HD 6970 runs a little hotter but definitely is not a power hog like nVidia cards (and other their other ALPHA DAWG / unlocked editions which run hotter, faster), best bet for you'll be buy a AMD HD 6950 2GB edition and try to unlock it to the HD 6970, try to buy it fast and see the batch dated somewhere around December which can be unlocked to a HD6970. Here is a benchie of these cards performing with each other, as you can see the card you buy is heavily dependent on which games you are going to play and not so much on just the price factors and brand following.

Bench - GPU11 - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News -- AMD HD 6970 vs. GTX 570 -- neck to neck performance, power consumption up down by 20W, but still can be crucial.

Bench - GPU11 - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News -- AMD HD 6950 2GB vs. GTX 570 -- cheaper and great performance for price, a definite buy for me and if you're lucky free upgrade to a bona-fide HD 6970.

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13177&Itemid=8

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=606&Itemid=72

http://www.overclock.net/graphics-cards-general/896359-amd-radeon-hd-6970-vs-nvidia.html

Prices as order, GTX 570 -- 21.5K

AMD HD 6950 2 GB -- 17K

AMD HD 6970 ~ 19K (not so sure)

all prices are from S.P Road Bangalore until mentioned otherwise. Hope this helps bruv.

u can even do crossfire/sli on that psu

Are you in the firecrackers business?

 

[thegame]

I will go with GTX 570 as I am sure its equal or roughly 2-3% better than 6970. Also both the cards are released in the same month -- Dec 2010 so these two don't have any generation gap..In US a stock 570 costs 330$ whereas the 6970 costs 370 $ MSI HD 6950 Twin Frozr III 2 GB Review - Page 1/27 | techPowerUp again you can check Newegg where the price difference is almost 0 and both are available for 325$ after rebates-- am not sure of the Indian prices though..

So price (considering US prices) and generation (year of release) don't differentiate these cards but what made me to choose 570 is the extra (not that important but slightly ) is the PhyX, again am saying only for the one game i.e. Mafia2 where i missed it on my 5850. Again this is my opinion and if I were you I would go with 570

Both the cards should run fine with Corsair HX650 (570 requires 550W) GeForce GTX 570

Seeing your sign (which is your current rig i suppose) am not sure whether E8400 will be a high/low bottleneck to the GPU update.

 

[rite]

6970 and 570 are approx equal in terms of performance however, overall the 6970 is about 5-10% faster, but individual victory depends on the game.

However, as an overall benchmark. 580 = 1.2 x 570
580 = 1.1-1.15 x 6970

So you can see the 580 is just 10-15% faster than the 6970 while it is easily 20% faster than the 570. So expect the 6970 to be approx 5-10% faster.

Also, 6970 is like 22-23k not 19k.

With a E8400, stick with the Geforce 8800 series or Radeon 4850/4870 or below!

 

[thegame]

The GTX 570 cuts closely while running on the Corsair HX650 while the AMD HD 6970 runs a little hotter but definitely is not a power hog like nVidia cards (and other their other ALPHA DAWG / unlocked editions which run .....

Oops I thought i would be the first one to post but had to take a call and by the time I posted, 2 others have come in

Anyways good point Alpha.. go for 6950 as 1) saves money 2) lucky if gets unlocked to 6970

Since it was 570 vs 6970 i forgot the 6950

 

[joel.monty]

6970 and 570 are approx equal in terms of performance however, overall the 6970 is about 5-10% faster, but individual victory depends on the game.

However, as an overall benchmark. 580 = 1.2 x 570

580 = 1.1-1.15 x 6970

So you can see the 580 is just 10-15% faster than the 6970 while it is easily 20% faster than the 570. So expect the 6970 to be approx 5-10% faster.

Also, 6970 is like 22-23k not 19k.

With a E8400, stick with the Geforce 8800 series or Radeon 4850/4870 or below!

+1

Do not listen to thegame ,he does not know what he is talking about,and you would get bottle necks in most of the newer games.

 

[comp@ddict]

The truth is^^ the COre 2 Duo is, I repeat, IT IS GOING to bottleneck your card for MOST NEW GAMES especially if you game with such a high-end card.

Yes, thats the absolute truth. The newest game that runs perfect on any quad-core but poorly on the best dual-core is Crysis 2 itself.

And newer games(except based on the sucky UE3 engine) are utilising 3-4 cores very effectively.

EDIT:

Either buy a 2nd hand Core 2 Quad or go for processor + mobo upgrade. Anything quad-core should do the trick. Sandy Bridge is most recommended.

 

[thegame]

+1
Do not listen to thegame ,he does not know what he is talking about,and you would get bottle necks in most of the newer games.

hey buddy as i said when it comes 570 vs 6970 I would go with 570 and am sure either of the cards is a bottleneck if CPU is E8400 ---"Seeing your sign (which is your current rig i suppose) am not sure whether E8400 will be a high/low bottleneck to the GPU update"

Now Mr.Samurai has to say what he is going to do.. whether he is going to upgrade his rig or only change his GPU -- which is not clear and unknown as his question was "Which is best any why? Is both card can run on Corsair HX650? " and i started this E8400 bottleneck stuff

 

[rite]

With that CPU even a 6870 is quite a waste. Why would you recommend him a 570?

You should go with a Core i5 + 6850 or above, that will give a better experience overall than a E8400 with 6990/590!

 

[thegame]

With that CPU even a 6870 is quite a waste. Why would you recommend him a 570?

You should go with a Core i5 + 6850 or above, that will give a better experience overall than a E8400 with 6990/590!

Bro, again I meant when you compare 570 and 6970 alone and dont' take the other components for comparsion (CPU), my choice ("my" means me alone and not the whole world ) would be 570 as I want a Phyx card when it comes to choose 570 or 6970 as both are identical in performance and par in price..

And again as i said earlier, with E8400 both the cards are not the best choice due to bottleneck.. but if the OP is going for a CPU+mobo upgrade (which may or may not as the OP has not mentioned) then only he can go for either 570 or 6970.

 

[The Knight]

hey buddy as i said when it comes 570 vs 6970 I would go with 570 and am sure either of the cards is a bottleneck if CPU is E8400 ---"Seeing your sign (which is your current rig i suppose) am not sure whether E8400 will be a high/low bottleneck to the GPU update"

Now Mr.Samurai has to say what he is going to do.. whether he is going to upgrade his rig or only change his GPU -- which is not clear and unknown as his question was "Which is best any why? Is both card can run on Corsair HX650? " and i started this E8400 bottleneck stuff

1st of all thanks for giving me suggestion.
I am upgrading to sandy bridge 2500K may be in next month with Gigabyte P67A-UD3R.
1 question is arround in my head that if I buy 6950 2GB then which brand I should prefer for unlocking the card? Is all branded 6950 2GB Reference can be unlocked?

 

[ALPHA17]

^^

Sapphire and HIS cards are better documented so it is better if you go for these cards .

 

[thegame]

^^

Sapphire and HIS cards are better documented so it is better if you go for these cards .

Alpha -- boy o boy you are damn fast and that too when i think of posting some thing..

Samurai you can check with our good old TE members Hades,Gannu and Supra for the same..and all the best for your new/upgrade rig

http://www.techenclave.com/show-off/my-hd6950-successfully-got-unlocked-hd6970-186037.html

http://www.techenclave.com/show-off/hades-someone-just-flicked-your-new-185949.html

http://www.techenclave.com/graphic-cards/calling-all-6950-2gb-owners-unlock-186304.html

 

[The Knight]

Thanks to thegame.

 

[Hades.]

There is no point in buying any gpu now coz your cpu would cause a huge bottleneck and you wouldn't be able to play even those games which hd6950/gtx570 can easily handle... Buy a decent gpu like hd6950 along with sb combo when you would upgrade your rig dont buy a gpu now... And btw after some months i think you would be able to buy hd6950 for much lesser price and yeah one thing more MSI has recently launched msi hd6950 twin frozr III and kept the dual bios thing intact so what i mean to say is that even hd6950 twin frozr 3 gpu wud be unlockable... So i think you would be able to buy this gpu when you would upgrade your rig in the next month or so...

 

[kaneunderground]

you can also look into 560gtx msi twin frozer or gigabyte oc edition or else 6950 ..

amd cards still have driver issues & all games are designed for nvidia except few games & if your playing in 21 or 24inch monitor nvidia cards will do jus gr8 if ur planning of buying 3 or 6 monitors buy 6950 or 6970

570gtx buy with confidence..

But 6950 = definitely yes..

all cards bought till now unlocks BUY HIS or SAPPHIRE..

 

[neojjjk]

my vote for nvidia ... ^^^ he explained the reason..

buy a GTX 570 /560

 

[manas_bptp]

Nvidia gtx 570.... Go for it

 

[ALPHA17]

^^

For all those people who cling onto nVidia just because, "AMD/ ATi has driver issues" -- http://www.techenclave.com/graphic-cards/amd-directly-challenges-nvidia-187006.html.

It really is dependent on which games the OP plans to run, once again I post benchies from Anandtech so that you might sift through them a little more carefully <sarcastic voice> --

Bench - GPU11 - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News -- The AMD HD 6950 vs. nVidia GTX 570, being 5K cheaper and encroaching on a higher level card and maximum difference of 20 fps in most games leave aside Civilization 5 it is biased to nVidia GPU's

Bench - GPU11 - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News -- Now the GTX 570 faces some heat, still games like DiRT and Civilizations 5 which are dependent on high tessellation prowess benefit from nVidia's raw power design thought, the HD 6970 is still 2K cheaper in the Indian markets OR 5K cheaper if you're lucky to unlock a HD 6950 into a 6970.

I seriously don't know why you people keep droning on about nVidia superior driver support + CUDA, I migrated to nVidia from my ATi X 700 to nVidia 9500 GT and by god I regret that decision to the core as no matter how much I prod the game settings the frame rates still remain lack-luster. And I've yet to an AMD driver which burns the pants off your brand new 700$ card -- YouTube - Geforce GTX 590 burns @ SweClockers.com. And I'm not a fan-boy, I'll not say the GTX 570 is a bad card it has more over-clock potential then the HD 6970 and the HD 6950 + CUDA apps are finally going mainstream, though for video decoding encoding I still say get a good Processor than a entry-level GFX card from either of the camps.