Budget 31-40k Help me decide between 4K and 144Hz monitors

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Hello, I am currently daily driving a Dell S2216H (22 inch, 1080p, 60Hz, 6 years old). I am looking to upgrade, and my budget is about 30-35k.

On the one hand, I read a lot of text, so I am tempted to get a 4K monitor for the crispiness of the text.

On the other hand, I do play some games, so I am wondering if I can get additional smoothness by increasing the refresh rate. Plus I've heard that with additional refresh rate even desktop use feels smoother and "real"er.

Regardless of the way I go, I will have to be sure to pick something that is color accurate because I do some design work.

Any opinions?
 
if i tell you refresh rate do affect our visual experience but it would not be 100% noticeable in daily life whereas if you go for higher pixelated screen then you might get more use of it as you can see in higher quality and overall it is good to have a balance combo of quality and refresh rate like 4k with 144 refresh rate is awesome monitor.
 
A 2k 1440 display will be crisp, color accurate and high refresh rate with low response time. It will be a huge upgrade over a 1080 display.
You can pick Acer xv272u kv, Benq EX 27, Msi optix 27. There is a dell model as well.
I use Acer xv272u kv.
 
^^^^ What Powervgx said makes sense. 35K - You wont get a really good 4K monitor, for that you will have to spend more money. Then its also not easy driving such a high resolution with Graphically intensive work. Best best will be 2K 144 Hertz Monitor in that price range.
 
If you have a budget of 25k then blindly go for m27q from Gigabyte. Its a 170hz pannel and also 2k. If you have a good graphics card then it will rock most of the visuals. Even its an IPS pannel, so get it I would say. But you will find vendors are mostly selling it more than the price, the best price you can get it is - 24k.
 
shouvikrb said:
If you have a budget of 25k then blindly go for m27q from Gigabyte. Its a 170hz pannel and also 2k. If you have a good graphics card then it will rock most of the visuals. Even its an IPS pannel, so get it I would say. But you will find vendors are mostly selling it more than the price, the best price you can get it is - 24k.
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M27Q v1.0 has a BGR panel, has some text clarity issues. Not recommended if you plan to use monitor for WFH needs, check that rtings.com comparison. KVM switch is definitely a great addition for people with multiple computers, like a desktop & an office laptop. OP mentioned reading a lot of texts though.

M27Q v2.0 has an RGB panel, but not sure if the panel is as good as v1.0 in terms of response times, colour, etc. So XV272U KV is a safer bet IMO.
 
For Driving 4k at 144hz you would need a beefy GPU. If you have atleast or above 3080 tier card you can go for 4k 144hz but even then the games in near future will soon become too much to handle for the cards below 4080 tier.
Hence I would suggest opt for the sweet spot 2k 144hz.
I myself bought a 4k 144hz monitor a few months back now I think I have to keep on upgrading by GPU every 2-3 years to be able to get the best out of this monitor.
 
sanz1112 said:
For Driving 4k at 144hz you would need a beefy GPU. If you have atleast or above 3080 tier card you can go for 4k 144hz but even then the games in near future will soon become too much to handle for the cards below 4080 tier.
Hence I would suggest opt for the sweet spot 2k 144hz.
I myself bought a 4k 144hz monitor a few months back now I think I have to keep on upgrading by GPU every 2-3 years to be able to get the best out of this monitor.
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Use DLSS or FSR at quality mode, will render at 1440p & upscale it to 4K. Generally, 4K DLSS quality mode looks better than native 1440p rendering, except when artefacts are introduced.
 
def get a 27inch 1440p , acer xv2727u kv is the best option currently.
good and affordable 4k monitors will take an year or 2 to arrive here, no much point in getting one unless you are dead set on getting one , that and you will need a high spec gpu if would game occasionally and want to use its full capabilities
 
jojorabbit said:
def get a 27inch 1440p , acer xv2727u kv is the best option currently.
good and affordable 4k monitors will take an year or 2 to arrive here, no much point in getting one unless you are dead set on getting one , that and you will need a high spec gpu if would game occasionally and want to use its full capabilities
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Thing is, new Samsung G7 28" with 4K 144Hz was under 40k last year a few times, but not anymore.
 
Thank you everyone!

I should have mentioned in the beginning that I recently upgraded my PC, so I have a RTX 4070 now, so it can definitely handle the desktop at 4K, and I don't mind downscaling to 1440p during gaming with either DLSS or just natively using the monitor scaling.

at 22 inch, 1080p is 100ppi (my current setup)
at 27 inch, 1440p is 109ppi
at 27 inch, 4K is 163ppi

so 1440p @ 27inch, which is what most of you are suggesting, will not help increase text clarity much at all. I might just live with my current monitor for a bit more time and save up for a better 4K.

So really, the choice is between 1080p @ 144Hz or 4K @ 60Hz for me. And I don't see very convincing arguments in favor of higher refresh rate as opposed to more pixel density.
 
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Yes, any refeesh rate above 120/144 is kinda useless if you are not into competitive gaming, still 4k monitors arent still at affordable prices in market , so do proper research before pulling the plug.

also i would suggest to go to a store/friend's place and try 27 inch 1440p monitor to see if it satisfies your needs or not. Just ppi numbers alone dont tell the entire story
 
tearphones said:
Thank you everyone!

I should have mentioned in the beginning that I recently upgraded my PC, so I have a RTX 4070 now, so it can definitely handle the desktop at 4K, and I don't mind downscaling to 1440p during gaming with either DLSS or just natively using the monitor scaling.

at 22 inch, 1080p is 100ppi (my current setup)
at 27 inch, 1440p is 109ppi
at 27 inch, 4K is 163ppi

so 1440p @ 27inch, which is what most of you are suggesting, will not help increase text clarity much at all. I might just live with my current monitor for a bit more time and save up for a better 4K.

So really, the choice is between 1080p @ 144Hz or 4K @ 60Hz for me. And I don't see very convincing arguments in favor of higher refresh rate as opposed to more pixel density.
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At normal viewing distance, you can't distinguish between pixels on a 24" 1080p or 27" 1440p monitor easily, unless you are very close.

I sit about 60-70cm away from my monitor & 90-110 ppi is easily enough to not be able to distinguish between pixels. I have a 24" 1080p & 27" 1440p. After upgrading to the latter, now I can sometimes see that my former monitor is not as sharp (a difference of 17 ppi or so).

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According to this, at 79cm away from the monitor, human eyes can't distinguish between pixels.

As far as high refresh rate is concerned, heck 120Hz is enough for me, but good monitors are pushing 170Hz these days. More important things that affect display quality for gaming are response time, lack of overshoot & VRR (gsync & freesync). I prefer playing games at 70+ fps for a smooth experience. But I have observed that cheaper 75Hz monitors without VRR feel laggy to me (using this at parent's place with my laptop as a temporary setup), likely because of lack of VRR & maybe poor response times. I see jitters in games.

So for someone with a GPU like 4070, a 27" 1440p gaming monitor like XV272U KV is a great choice. If you are going 4K, get a 4K 144Hz gaming monitor. You need a DP on freesync monitor to use gsync.
 
Samsung Odyssey 4k 28" is a great 4k/144 display around 40k. I use it with a 3090.

Once you use 4k, you can't go back to 2k.
 
mr. john said:
Do you need gc to run 4k monitors or we can use the onboard display?
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For 4k/144 you need something that supports HDMI 2.1 or Displayport 1.4 which is only found on dedicated cards of the NVIDIA 3000 series or higher and AMD 6000 series or higher.. For 4k60, any HDMI works including motherboard of recent years (2020+) works.
 
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