How many of us use the word 'Chinki'
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madnav
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in most of the cases, people use it to describe the appearance / behaviour in a stereotypical way..
it is very rarely taken in an offensive way.
what i have noticed is that 'chinki' n 'kancha' are taken the most offensively (if at all).
gujju is not at all racial. they themselves refer to as gujju when talking about their community. i have many gujrati friends who do the same. i mean, what there to be racial about? it is about what place they come from and what language they speak.
same applicable to madrasi. now most non-sout indians do not understand difference between many south languages (including me). and it has become a norm to refer to as madrasi than south indians.. although word madrasi is being replaced by mallus it seems.. but i never see any of my mallu friends taking it as an offence...infact they themselves use it.
the point is, there is no discrimination unless we/they feel apart from the others...kind of an outcast..
PS: if kancha and chinki is at all used, im sure it is used to do ethnic eye similarities and nothing else.
Although what i have noticed is people take it as a compliment if someone calls them americn/europian (if they speak good english and look fair) and as an offence if denoted by anything relating to asia..how racist is that now?
it is very rarely taken in an offensive way.
what i have noticed is that 'chinki' n 'kancha' are taken the most offensively (if at all).
gujju is not at all racial. they themselves refer to as gujju when talking about their community. i have many gujrati friends who do the same. i mean, what there to be racial about? it is about what place they come from and what language they speak.
same applicable to madrasi. now most non-sout indians do not understand difference between many south languages (including me). and it has become a norm to refer to as madrasi than south indians.. although word madrasi is being replaced by mallus it seems.. but i never see any of my mallu friends taking it as an offence...infact they themselves use it.
the point is, there is no discrimination unless we/they feel apart from the others...kind of an outcast..
PS: if kancha and chinki is at all used, im sure it is used to do ethnic eye similarities and nothing else.
Although what i have noticed is people take it as a compliment if someone calls them americn/europian (if they speak good english and look fair) and as an offence if denoted by anything relating to asia..how racist is that now?
Udit
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I'm the personification of coolness not acting :cool1:St.John said:Why are you trying to act as if you are the personification of coolness...
It is ok to talk about chix but being descriptive is not really advisable when talking in a forum where there are people you are familiar with others that you are not... It might be cool for you, for someone else it might be derogatory...
"chinki's got the stuff I want then what can I do?"
This buddy is a really crass statement...
I don't refer to them by their physical appearance in personchiron said:
I do it while chatting with friends & they don't mind so dunno why it's bothering you
Everyone calls me motu (fatso) 90% of the time & I don't care
I say again they're just a word
Only being called kid by below 30yrs old people offends me
ya I do enjoy itblr_p said:Seriously enjoy it
"Chinki" is not a racial term but it will surely offend people.
Imagine an indian being called a "paki" by a white man abroad. Imagine an indian calling a indian muslim a "paki".
The NE people has remained isolated for a long time. Is is just since this past decade that they have been reaching out to other parts of india in large numbers. While isolated, they didn't find any similarities with india so they borrowed influences from korea, vietnam and other far east states.
BTW, most of them are hardcore bible-nuts. Their sense of attire makes them come out as liberals but its the opposite. The political and societal structure of the autonomous districts of NE are shaped and influenced by the church.
Imagine an indian being called a "paki" by a white man abroad. Imagine an indian calling a indian muslim a "paki".
The NE people has remained isolated for a long time. Is is just since this past decade that they have been reaching out to other parts of india in large numbers. While isolated, they didn't find any similarities with india so they borrowed influences from korea, vietnam and other far east states.
BTW, most of them are hardcore bible-nuts. Their sense of attire makes them come out as liberals but its the opposite. The political and societal structure of the autonomous districts of NE are shaped and influenced by the church.
NinByChoice
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Why dont people seem to understand the difference between ethnic, political, regional and linguistic characteristics?
Chinki - refers to ethnic origin. A person can be an Indian+Chinki = Indian citizen of Chinese ethnicity. No one is questioning your nationality or loyalty when calling you a chinki.
For example, Im a chinki-indian-kannadiga-madrasi - which means Im ethincally from China, politically (citizen) from India, native speaker of Kannada, but residing in Madras.
You can add religion to the mix too.
What is there to be offended if an ethnically chinki person is called a chinki? Will people be offended if a politically Indian person is called an Indian?
Calling an Indian a Paki is wrong because that person is not from Pakistan. In the same sense calling a mallu, a madrasi is retarded. If you cannot differentiate between 2 languages/place of origin you can either STFU or call them a more generic name such as Southie.
Do fat people get offended when you call them fat?
Chinki - refers to ethnic origin. A person can be an Indian+Chinki = Indian citizen of Chinese ethnicity. No one is questioning your nationality or loyalty when calling you a chinki.
For example, Im a chinki-indian-kannadiga-madrasi - which means Im ethincally from China, politically (citizen) from India, native speaker of Kannada, but residing in Madras.
You can add religion to the mix too.
What is there to be offended if an ethnically chinki person is called a chinki? Will people be offended if a politically Indian person is called an Indian?
Calling an Indian a Paki is wrong because that person is not from Pakistan. In the same sense calling a mallu, a madrasi is retarded. If you cannot differentiate between 2 languages/place of origin you can either STFU or call them a more generic name such as Southie.
Do fat people get offended when you call them fat?
Now that begs the question why you are alright with using the term "hot chick"?blr_p said:
What is a chick? It usually refers to hatch-ling's and non-adult birds. Isn't using that word to refer to girls another form of gender discriminative slang.
Here is what the dictionary has to say.
Chick | Define Chick at Dictionary.com
And what does 'hot' refer to? Does the girl have a fever to be referred to as hot? I guess it is again a slang for saying that the girl is sexually attractive. So may be Udit should stick to saying "I met this sexually attractive girl with oriental features". :ashamed:
NinByChoice said:
Try telling a fat girl that she is fat and remember to post here once you regain consciousness.
blr_p
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ooh i did this once in NYC after i left a bar, saw this girl walking ahead of us and said her behind was so BIG that it blocked out the sunlight.Lord Nemesis said:Try telling a fat girl that she is fat and remember to post here once you regain consciousness.
She just called me a dumb foreigner
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^ that reminded me of a memory of quite a few (8+) years back. Me and my colleagues were going back home from work to the station in a rickshaw. When we were near the station, we saw the road was jam packed with people walking and our driver was trying to take his auto forward. So thinking that walking would take us faster, my colleague told him "Bhaiyya, bas idhar hi side mein rokna".
The driver while we were paying the fare got a little cross at us and told he was not from the North but was a Maharashtrian. Took us a second to figure out what he meant, but we pacified him saying we meant brother and not anything else. Those were the days when the SS were vehemently opposing North Indians moving into bombay in large numbers.
The driver while we were paying the fare got a little cross at us and told he was not from the North but was a Maharashtrian. Took us a second to figure out what he meant, but we pacified him saying we meant brother and not anything else.
Those were the days when the SS were vehemently opposing North Indians moving into bombay in large numbers.l33t_5n1p3r_max
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funny how chinki was never a racist word until the 90's(my cousin was named chinky)...then we got the interwebz and every little liberal wannabe-american hippy worth his 2$ ganja blunt logged onto it and started exporting Amreeki values to our nation. Soon you'll have to ban sardar jokes and the world will collapse on itself due to the injustice of it.
Another thing you'll notice is that these newspaper wallas never really care about malyali dudes being called mallus or bengalis being called bongs or biharis being called bhaiyas.
But chinky is a strict no-no. Why? Because they dress better than most?? Coming down to it, I agree theres a bit of discrimination against the NE people and it should be fixed. However, the word chinky is not the biggest problem right now. People have to be sensitised to cultures..you can call me a camel rider as long as you want as long as you mean it in a decent way.
Another thing you'll notice is that these newspaper wallas never really care about malyali dudes being called mallus or bengalis being called bongs or biharis being called bhaiyas.
But chinky is a strict no-no. Why? Because they dress better than most?? Coming down to it, I agree theres a bit of discrimination against the NE people and it should be fixed. However, the word chinky is not the biggest problem right now. People have to be sensitised to cultures..you can call me a camel rider as long as you want as long as you mean it in a decent way.
NinByChoice
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So if the intention is good, then the word is ok? Maybe bhaiyya has a different meaning in Marathi or the local dialect/version of Hindi. Either way, its the travelers responsibility to know these things.broadway said:
Its imperative to know the language and culture when you visit a foreign place, and behave accordingly. And by foreign - I dont mean politically foreign, but culturally or linguistically foreign. Just because you dont require a passport and visa to travel somewhere, doesnt mean you should expect people to tolerate your cultural garbage. If northies in Mumbai dont follow local linguistics, then expect to get unhelpful locals (because they dont understand you) and cold responses. I bet the same northies dont call the taxi driver "bhaiyya" when they go to France.
Loads of personal experiences. I have been lucky enough survive and tell the tales of horror that usually follow such a statementLord Nemesis said:So may be Udit should stick to saying "I met this sexually attractive girl with oriental features". :ashamed:
Try telling a fat girl that she is fat and remember to post here once you regain consciousness.
If they are ashamed of being fat then they should do something about it, rather than hate people who point it out. If theres nothing to be ashamed of, then there is no reason to get angry. If people arent ashamed of their Chinese origins (and they shldnt be), there is no reason to feel angry being called a chinki.
madnav
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it's only a matter of perspective..
so next time someone calls you bhaiya,chinki,ghati,madrasi,mallu,sardar,gujju etc etc .. just ask the person what does he mean rather than getting all boiled up.
from my perspective, a person gets offended when called by his appearance/location if/when he/she himself/herself think inferior about that thing..inferiority complex in a way... so who exactly does that make a racist now!!??
if not, then he/she wouldnt care...
so next time someone calls you bhaiya,chinki,ghati,madrasi,mallu,sardar,gujju etc etc .. just ask the person what does he mean rather than getting all boiled up.
from my perspective, a person gets offended when called by his appearance/location if/when he/she himself/herself think inferior about that thing..inferiority complex in a way... so who exactly does that make a racist now!!??
if not, then he/she wouldnt care...
madnav
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it sounds like bhaiya only.asingh said:
if a hindi speaking persons call you bhaiya then it is taken as 'brother' but if a marathi speakin calls you bhaiya then it is taken as 'bihari' .. that is, by those who support mns, ss and by those who feel very cool about being marathi while there are other marathis people around. atleast this is what i have observed being a marathi.
the slang is created by mns and ss by referring to bihari's as 'bhaiyas' in the so called 'motivational' speeches.
the thing is that generally dudhwala, haar wala, chat-stall wala auto wala, taxi wala, laundry wala, sabji wala etc etc were bihari in mumbai once upon a time.. thus people (including Northies Southies and etc etc) referred to them as bhaiya (as one would say bhaiya in context while talkin to them)
the shop keepers usch as general stores were mostly run by marwadis so they were referred to as baniya.. now just because mns and ss have personal grudges with biharis (and apparently anything that is not marathi) are being stereotyped in a negative way here. Peopl dont mean it in the same way as they (mns, ss supporters) meant it. It is the media which reflect what mns and ss has to say, no one reflects what it really means to an individual unbiased towards what mns/ss thinks.
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