HP Touchpad for 100$ @ US online stores
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vahss_11 said:Reply to you point-wise :- Post is mainly for aasimenator and RS4
1) As you said that just because you see most of the people are against these "Ebay sellers" , so even you think you should be against them??? Also, can you let me know if they used any illegal/wrong method to get those 50-100 TP??? Please let me know, How is this different then Using your cellphone service, or even Broadband service ?? Even Telecom operators corner Spectrum to provide you this service and charge you way more then what they pay, so then why are you using their service??? Spectrum is Extremely scarce comodity, so they corner as much as they can, so now you should be angry with them also, why are you not?? why use the service then? These "Ebay sellers" used the same method that you and me are trying to buy from, its just that they were proactive and ready to take risk , so whaTs the harm?? If they got demand then they will sell at high price. What if the demand goes down, and they are forced to sell at even less then their purchase price as HPTP is discontinued, will you buy from them at the purchase price but higher then rest of the market?? then why to go against them now?? its business, you just need to have some skills to understand that , its simple.
2) I am not saying that HP is not making loss or was making HUGE profit at more then 400 bucks price, I was saying that if the seller is selling at 250 bucks , what the hell is your problem with it?? he bought it from the market, and is now selling it in the market, why you should be angry with his deal??? Has he taken money from you?? If people are lazy and have got habbit of spoon feeding then its their own problem, why to bash Sellers for?? these sellers are getting premium for the laziness of Buyers, now if someone has got problem then they should be pro-active and not try to blame others for their own issue.
3) Its simple, if you got demand why the hell will some one not sell at higher amount?? Who has the rights to stop some one in making profits??? Is the HP TP essential commodity??? If buyer wants to buy then he will buy and if not then he wont, who has given rights to benchmark the price and limit the profit ????? RS4, I wont be shocked if you say that you dont pay higher milk prices, just because you think its high priced, if you want you will buy, if you feel its high priced, then dont buy, But how can you stop some one selling at high price????
Its easy to bash others and try to put all blames on others, but First think if you wont do the same if you are able to use your brains properly.
The above post is not to hurt anyone.
Looks like there are some black-marketeer,hoarders on TE also who want to black-market stuff, kindly do so, no need of justifying your actions..
PS: this post should hurt every black-marketeer/hoarder
If you think that doing business is "Black - marketeer , hoarders" then sure, each and every single company on this planet, and each and every single businessmen is "Black - marketeer , hoarders"
Dont worry about getting hurt, because, it requires some common sense to understand how a business is done, so its just sad that you dont
Dont worry about getting hurt, because, it requires some common sense to understand how a business is done, so its just sad that you dont
Register yourself as a company, then buy 100 pieces and sell them at 100$ more it is business. Buy 100 pieces as an individual, sell it for 100$ more on Ebay, that is black marketing.
Key differences are -
1. You pay tax to the government for the money you make. If you don't do that and you still want to run it like a business, that's illegal and you should be behind bars.
2. The Business gets it from the supplier/distributor. He puts a profit margin on it and sells it to the public. The hoarder gets stocks that are meant to go DIRECTLY to the consumer from the supplier/distributor and sells it for a much higher margin. Resultingly, profit margins are more and you get the term "hoarder".
Bottom line is, what the hoarders do might be "legal" in the strictest term, but there are somethings called Ethics. A business satisfies both the legalities involved and the Ethics, but the hoarder may satisfy the legal aspects and cares a damn about ethics.
In a social environment, we expect every human being to behave with ethics. Some don't and I don't condone that and I hate it. But to me and to 90% of the people in this forum, they are hoarders and they rank among the vermin of society.
I don't mean to hurt anybody with this post.
Key differences are -
1. You pay tax to the government for the money you make. If you don't do that and you still want to run it like a business, that's illegal and you should be behind bars.
2. The Business gets it from the supplier/distributor. He puts a profit margin on it and sells it to the public. The hoarder gets stocks that are meant to go DIRECTLY to the consumer from the supplier/distributor and sells it for a much higher margin. Resultingly, profit margins are more and you get the term "hoarder".
Bottom line is, what the hoarders do might be "legal" in the strictest term, but there are somethings called Ethics. A business satisfies both the legalities involved and the Ethics, but the hoarder may satisfy the legal aspects and cares a damn about ethics.
In a social environment, we expect every human being to behave with ethics. Some don't and I don't condone that and I hate it. But to me and to 90% of the people in this forum, they are hoarders and they rank among the vermin of society.
I don't mean to hurt anybody with this post.
Guys please let me know, if you can find touchpad for lower than this.
HP SmartBuy TouchPad Wi-Fi 16GB FB454UT#ABA | eBay
HP SmartBuy TouchPad Wi-Fi 16GB FB454UT#ABA | eBay
@vahss_11
Who told you we are against them? I am against them selling the Touchpad way more than its worth.
I don't think you know this but i OWN a business & very well understand the logistics of it.
YOu talked about Telecom Companies.. Do you know all the backend things that are required to launch a company? The Servers, the Locations, Hiring Staffs, Who would pay them? Do you think they'll pay from their pockets for such services that are being provided to you? Off course not.
Just Research & find out how much it will cost you to install cell phone towers in Mumbai just to get you a reception. YOu think that Corporates have 100% profit, this is a competitive market you cannot survive in any industry if you want to make 100% profit out of everything you sell / provide. The MAX Margin on any product is 10% - 25% & if you think i am lying ask anybody else who sells IT products.
Sure they took the risk to buy them when it was cheap does that mean they can set any price they want? People Still don't know there is a Sale on the touchpads and it was sold at $99 and they are buying from the ebay sellers like crazy because they think its cheaper than $400. But they don't know they are over paying it.
There is a thing called Price-Fixing & its against the Law in US & UK.
The Problem is because they took everything they wanted & left nothing for the rest of us, there is hence the shortage.
May be your end game is to buy one/many & rip off others by selling it at a higher price. but there are those here, like yours truly who, are genuienly interested in buying it & using.
And Yes If I have 100 of these with me I wouldn't sell them for a 100% profit, nobody in their right mind would, unless they are just greedy b**tr*s.
First just complete your grad & then we'll talk business Okay!
In addition to what JT_Daniel said
If you do want to make profits register yourself as business, lets see how it feels when you are ripped of by the Gov each year paying Licenses & registration fee + Service Tax.
Oh & By the way I don't think anyone's feelings would get hurt, we are here for discussion & Of course to find the God damn Touch Pads, but I don't have anything against you / anybody here, we are all expressing our opinion & they will vary as we are not the same person.
@techpal Sorry I didn't repond to any of his posts that was directed at me.
Anyways OT, NO NEW TOUCHPADS TILL AFTER MONDAY!
Who told you we are against them? I am against them selling the Touchpad way more than its worth.
I don't think you know this but i OWN a business & very well understand the logistics of it.
YOu talked about Telecom Companies.. Do you know all the backend things that are required to launch a company? The Servers, the Locations, Hiring Staffs, Who would pay them? Do you think they'll pay from their pockets for such services that are being provided to you? Off course not.
Just Research & find out how much it will cost you to install cell phone towers in Mumbai just to get you a reception. YOu think that Corporates have 100% profit, this is a competitive market you cannot survive in any industry if you want to make 100% profit out of everything you sell / provide. The MAX Margin on any product is 10% - 25% & if you think i am lying ask anybody else who sells IT products.
Sure they took the risk to buy them when it was cheap does that mean they can set any price they want? People Still don't know there is a Sale on the touchpads and it was sold at $99 and they are buying from the ebay sellers like crazy because they think its cheaper than $400. But they don't know they are over paying it.
There is a thing called Price-Fixing & its against the Law in US & UK.
The Problem is because they took everything they wanted & left nothing for the rest of us, there is hence the shortage.
May be your end game is to buy one/many & rip off others by selling it at a higher price. but there are those here, like yours truly who, are genuienly interested in buying it & using.
And Yes If I have 100 of these with me I wouldn't sell them for a 100% profit, nobody in their right mind would, unless they are just greedy b**tr*s.
First just complete your grad & then we'll talk business Okay!
In addition to what JT_Daniel said
If you do want to make profits register yourself as business, lets see how it feels when you are ripped of by the Gov each year paying Licenses & registration fee + Service Tax.
Oh & By the way I don't think anyone's feelings would get hurt, we are here for discussion & Of course to find the God damn Touch Pads, but I don't have anything against you / anybody here, we are all expressing our opinion & they will vary as we are not the same person.
@techpal Sorry I didn't repond to any of his posts that was directed at me.
Anyways OT, NO NEW TOUCHPADS TILL AFTER MONDAY!
Hey guys there are news that new stocks are going to come next week.
We might find reduction in price if demand slumps, lets talk more about the sources from where we can get them at cheaper price.
We all are trying to do the same thing for the past one week.
We don't have much control over the market and what they do, we can talk but those people who are selling at a higher price are not going to get affected.
Lets help each other in finding a nice deal.
We might find reduction in price if demand slumps, lets talk more about the sources from where we can get them at cheaper price.
We all are trying to do the same thing for the past one week.
We don't have much control over the market and what they do, we can talk but those people who are selling at a higher price are not going to get affected.
Lets help each other in finding a nice deal.
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tutysara said:
Where did you get this news about new stock?
I heared that the HP is going to increase the price
Can you post the link?
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But all existing Pre3 ordered from palm store will not have any price reduction on them.
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But all existing Pre3 ordered from palm store will not have any price reduction on them.
Yes it may come at an increased price.
http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/08/27/more-hp-touchpad-stock-could-be-returning-to-some-stores/
http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/08/27/more-hp-touchpad-stock-could-be-returning-to-some-stores/
^ Its not stated how much, but most SD'ers speculate around 149$ for 16GB, 199$ for 32GB & 249$ for 64GB
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Hey Did you guys know this?
"As of last night due to the fact that some person(s) who did not have anything better to do called TechData for the past few days in my behalf, TechData just canceled my 15 year distributorship relationship. All ORDERS HAVE BEEN CANCELED AND REFUNDED AS OF LAST NIGHT. After an urgent meeting last night the decision was ultimate. All transactions have been canceled and refunds issues thru First Data Credit Processing."
Thats from Asktp.com
"As of last night due to the fact that some person(s) who did not have anything better to do called TechData for the past few days in my behalf, TechData just canceled my 15 year distributorship relationship. All ORDERS HAVE BEEN CANCELED AND REFUNDED AS OF LAST NIGHT. After an urgent meeting last night the decision was ultimate. All transactions have been canceled and refunds issues thru First Data Credit Processing."
Thats from Asktp.com
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