I Give Up. Windows Is Proof That People Are Too Stupid To Use Computers.
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praka123 said:
LOL... I can do nothing but pity you. Even I have used KDE and Gnome for quite some time and I have never denied their ease of use. There was a time when I had to manually configure every single bit of hardware and had to make entries in fstab for mounting volumes and Linux has come a long way from that, but there is still a long way to go for Linux in hardware support and configuration areas. Then there are other issues with stability and reliability of the OS. I have seen quite a number of case's including one experience of mine where people corrupted their Linux volumes when their machines rebooted/stopped due a power cut. Windows never did that even where several instance when a power cut denied the system a safe shutdown. Then where were bugs that severely impacted the usability and stability of the OS. You many be fine with using Linux as your full time OS, but no way I am I gonna trust Linux for anything serious.
As for your statement regarding people who multi-boot not being able to appreciate Linux, I can do nothing but LOL again.
praka123 said:
A majority of software's do. At least as far as vista is concerned. In fact, a very old version of the software my company developed back in 1998 is still in use by many customers running Win XP/Vista and many of the news papers/magazines and other publications across are world are being designed with that version. Of course there will be exceptions, but its only because MS is gradually making the OS more secure and in the process loosing out of the compatibility aspect.
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You may get viruses/malware, so don't use windows.
Along the same lines....
You may get Herpes/AIDS, remain celibate your whole life.
Along the same lines....
You may get Herpes/AIDS, remain celibate your whole life.
geekier? :S ,generalization sucks!
Again ,FOSS needs the program to be Open Source.that is the core of FOSS Model.you clearly knows ,sharing of knowledge increases the knowledge.
"what with the greedy programmer who want to profit with closed source?"-this is how it feels in a FOSS Utopia.and I said ,I support it.and not every one loves the FOSS method.Hence the enforcement in Gov sectors to have a upper Hand in countries depending on Window$ and all.
again ,I said - I am supporting the FOSS initiative.It doesnot makes every Linux user to think so.the money spend on IT can be partly spend on Infrastructure in developing countries especially.
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Again ,FOSS needs the program to be Open Source.that is the core of FOSS Model.you clearly knows ,sharing of knowledge increases the knowledge.
"what with the greedy programmer who want to profit with closed source?"-this is how it feels in a FOSS Utopia.and I said ,I support it.and not every one loves the FOSS method.Hence the enforcement in Gov sectors to have a upper Hand in countries depending on Window$ and all.
again ,I said - I am supporting the FOSS initiative.It doesnot makes every Linux user to think so.the money spend on IT can be partly spend on Infrastructure in developing countries especially.
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sri_rng said:
Pity on me.
hyeah: I too had the same experience during the past with power cuts the file system getting corrupt and all.and now look at the current scenario!times changed.editing /etc/fstab was as recent as 2005ish ,IIRC.
LOLing fine.but seriously!Linux and Linux Only on your computer-do that for years and tell me.It is beauty!It is Stable.:hap2: the other things as with bugs etc you are saying Is : BIG FUD!the Linux distro I use is kind of much stable.(Ubuntu Intrepid -custom kernel).and I am not an average user to install everything!.
mean time folks :
get GNU/Linux!
hyeah: I too had the same experience during the past with power cuts the file system getting corrupt and all.and now look at the current scenario!times changed.editing /etc/fstab was as recent as 2005ish ,IIRC.LOLing fine.but seriously!Linux and Linux Only on your computer-do that for years and tell me.It is beauty!It is Stable.:hap2: the other things as with bugs etc you are saying Is : BIG FUD!the Linux distro I use is kind of much stable.(Ubuntu Intrepid -custom kernel).and I am not an average user to install everything!.
mean time folks :
get GNU/Linux!
nemesis said:LOL... I can do nothing but pity you. Even I have used KDE and Gnome for quite some time and I have never denied their ease of use. There was a time when I had to manually configure every single bit of hardware and had to make entries in fstab for mounting volumes and Linux has come a long way from that, but there is still a long way to go for Linux in hardware support and configuration areas. Then there are other issues with stability and reliability of the OS. I have seen quite a number of case's including one experience of mine where people corrupted their Linux volumes when their machines rebooted/stopped due a power cut. Windows never did that even where several instance when a power cut denied the system a safe shutdown. Then where were bugs that severely impacted the usability and stability of the OS. You many be fine with using Linux as your full time OS, but no way I am I gonna trust Linux for anything serious.
As for your statement regarding people who multi-boot not being able to appreciate Linux, I can do nothing but LOL again.
sTALKEr said:
FOSS(not OSS) ,it needs to be evolved and the only condition - it needs is the whole computing industry to submit to FOSS.
AFAICT :
1)developing a currently available software for more features ,less buggier -demands the reward for this(money!)
2)have a software released.for the various extra functionality,bug fixes ,asks donation ,subscription model.(RHEL is an eg)
Paper:FOSS Business Models - Wiki
3)paid developer for the corporations who does program developments
although ,those who are capable can do whatever with the codes.it is their right.
idea pool:
Making Money from Free & Open Source Software @ Follars.com - Free, Open-source Dollars
interesting:
Welcome to FOSS Factory
praka123 said:
The source being open means that you cannot commercialize it properly. So tell me, how do these developers earn their living if they are writing and giving away the source. ok, maybe he even manages to sell a copy of his software along with the source. Then those people make their own modifications and release their source, The software sure is improving, but will they be able to keep selling software like that? There will software will soon loose its commercial value. After that what incentive will the developer have to keep developing it when he has other problems, namely how to earn his bread and butter. Tell me, will you be willing to work for someone without salary because they are going to release the software along with the source free of cost? Also consider the risks of free software. the source is available to everyone. So how easy will it be for a malware writer to find loop holes in the software and utilize them. You can only guess/make assumptions that there may be proprietary software developers are out there trying to gain access to your personal info while on the other hand, its a pretty obvious to every one that if the source is available there would be a bunch of malware writers out to exploit the loopholes. So I see open source to be a lot more dangerous than proprietary software.
Free Software, OSS and FOSS may all sound so noble and exiting, but its not practical. The fact is that Free software sustains because of proprietary software. Most often developers who make proprietary software to make a living are also responsible for developing free software/Open Source software in their spare time. Alternatively there many be other sources of income for these people to be able to spend put their effort on something and give it way for free. When you already have an alternate income source, it may be fine to give away some thing like that just for sharing and learning. But if you remove proprietary software development, free software will also vanish immediately.
praka123 said:
Do you seriously want to imply that there never was a Bug in a release version of Linux. :rofl: Maybe God himself can achieve that kind of a feat, but not the poor old developers. I have myself across several bugs in the Linux distributions I have used. Most were related to poor/improper hardware support, bugs in the KDE and Gnome environments.
As for using Linux full time, why would I sacrifice gaming, proper hardware support, application availability for an OS that had not been stable enough for me in a multi-boot environment.
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Praka, you are embarassing the whole FOSS and Opensource community..
No one hates linux, but if you continue, you will make them hate it..
You'l probably reply with a bunch of links after putting in bold some part of my statement, but i had to tell you this, cause i just had pizza..It was free of viruses..and i liked it..But still, i like noodles more as its easier to make and filling too..
And readymade pizza sucks..
No one hates linux, but if you continue, you will make them hate it..
You'l probably reply with a bunch of links after putting in bold some part of my statement, but i had to tell you this, cause i just had pizza..It was free of viruses..and i liked it..But still, i like noodles more as its easier to make and filling too..
And readymade pizza sucks..He's getting his fits again huh? Poor praka123 doesn't realize that people have started ignoring all the links he's been posting and he's being made fun of?
So anyway..recently, I decided to install some 4-5 over the past few days and the week or two before that. Here's some stuff I noticed..
Again, that's just my opinion with my particular PC at work. I've had better experiences on other PCs. So what can I say? For people who have similar configurations as me on that PC at work, don't want to spend 4-5 days tweaking everything, need to do serious work on it, think many times before making the move.
And as for hypocrits fanboys..
+2!
...praka123 just exploded!
Can we ban him now...Please?
So anyway..recently, I decided to install some 4-5 over the past few days and the week or two before that. Here's some stuff I noticed..
- Most mount other partitions properly, the network connection manager is broken on some of them.
- Simple stuff like accessing network shares is a pain. Making shortcuts too.
- They are much slower (at least on that particular PC with 1 GB of RAM) than Billy's OS.
- You can run games ported to Linux that you could on Windows but only with 25% the performance.
- Some have weird single-key shortcuts that throw you into the console-terminal.
- Software is bloated, distributions are filled with stuff you don't need and you're too too fast for the OS/computer most of the time.
- I have to wait for stuff to redraw on the desktop!
- Opening 4-5 tabs on any browser slows it down.
- It's still not as simple to use as I thought it would be after more than a decade of development. A practical test - I had people who managed to go from Windows 98 to XP to Vista properly but had trouble with Linux and most of them still do...
Again, that's just my opinion with my particular PC at work. I've had better experiences on other PCs. So what can I say? For people who have similar configurations as me on that PC at work, don't want to spend 4-5 days tweaking everything, need to do serious work on it, think many times before making the move.
And as for hypocrits fanboys..
SharekhaN said:
+2!
...praka123 just exploded!
Can we ban him now...Please?
cyberjunkie said:He's getting his fits again huh? Poor praka123 doesn't realize that people have started ignoring all the links he's been posting and he's being made fun of?
So anyway..recently, I decided to install some 4-5 over the past few days and the week or two before that. Here's some stuff I noticed..
- Most mount other partitions properly, the network connection manager is broken on some of them.
- Simple stuff like accessing network shares is a pain. Making shortcuts too.
- They are much slower (at least on that particular PC with 1 GB of RAM) than Billy's OS.
- You can run games ported to Linux that you could on Windows but only with 25% the performance.
- Some have weird single-key shortcuts that throw you into the console-terminal.
- Software is bloated, distributions are filled with stuff you don't need and you're too too fast for the OS/computer most of the time.
- I have to wait for stuff to redraw on the desktop!
- Opening 4-5 tabs on any browser slows it down.
- It's still not as simple to use as I thought it would be after more than a decade of development. A practical test - I had people who managed to go from Windows 98 to XP to Vista properly but had trouble with Linux and most of them still do...
Again, that's just my opinion with my particular PC at work. I've had better experiences on other PCs. So what can I say? For people who have similar configurations as me on that PC at work, don't want to spend 4-5 days tweaking everything, need to do serious work on it, think many times before making the move.
And as for hypocrits fanboys..
+2!
...praka123 just exploded!
Can we ban him now...Please?
I shall quote your post.
only so that lil billy's face gets plastered over more of this thread
cyberjunkie said:He's getting his fits again huh? Poor praka123 doesn't realize that people have started ignoring all the links he's been posting and he's being made fun of?
So anyway..recently, I decided to install some 4-5 over the past few days and the week or two before that. Here's some stuff I noticed..
- Most mount other partitions properly, the network connection manager is broken on some of them.
- Simple stuff like accessing network shares is a pain. Making shortcuts too.
- They are much slower (at least on that particular PC with 1 GB of RAM) than Billy's OS.
- You can run games ported to Linux that you could on Windows but only with 25% the performance.
- Some have weird single-key shortcuts that throw you into the console-terminal.
- Software is bloated, distributions are filled with stuff you don't need and you're too too fast for the OS/computer most of the time.
- I have to wait for stuff to redraw on the desktop!
- Opening 4-5 tabs on any browser slows it down.
- It's still not as simple to use as I thought it would be after more than a decade of development. A practical test - I had people who managed to go from Windows 98 to XP to Vista properly but had trouble with Linux and most of them still do...
Again, that's just my opinion with my particular PC at work. I've had better experiences on other PCs. So what can I say? For people who have similar configurations as me on that PC at work, don't want to spend 4-5 days tweaking everything, need to do serious work on it, think many times before making the move.
And as for hypocrits fanboys..
+2!
...praka123 just exploded!
Can we ban him now...Please?
I shall quote your post.
only so that lil billy's face gets plastered over more of this thread
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