In one para : what's wrong with our modern diet.

[ssslayer]

Google digestibility of legumes and you'll run into tons of research papers.

I don't think something published in research paper becomes accepted as gospel. There are tons of research paper on sports "science" and many of them contradict each other.
That's why I asked specific reference or at least the measuring yardstick that can help people evaluate useful protein content. Whether that yardstick is undisputed or not

Na. That was about 10 years ago. I hardly stayed with soy for more than a week. It wasn't practical. Later moved to 20 eggs/day regime.

And, no, I'm not obsessed with protein. That's why I don't interact in the Protein thread.

Well in that case what was the measurable effect of 20 eggs per day regime?

 

[vink]

Can someone suggest good cookware? Which could work similar to non stick? Would like to invest in good quality cookware to avoid long term issues. As of now, mostly using stainless steel utensils but did not find good quality non stick type tawa

in same boat, tried to go Cast Iron cook ware but before investing in expensive ones tried the local made one. experience is not good at all, it has giant off center heat spot all rotis burns very easily, frustration for my mom and its heavy too..

we cannot choose heat spot free tawa before hand so cast iron on whole is being rejected by mom.
cast iron brand i was looking into is Meyer , does anybody have any experience of it?

mom still considers old hawkins hard anodised was the best one, it was lightweight and no roti burns, almost ever, but am against the coating in general, PFAS etc.
looks like indians are out of options..

 

[altair21]

in same boat, tried to go Cast Iron cook ware but before investing in expensive ones tried the local made one. experience is not good at all, it has giant off center heat spot all rotis burns very easily, frustration for my mom and its heavy too..

yeah you'll need to experiment a little, maybe ask in your neighbourhood, we dont use any branded cast iron pans, but got something from a local shop which was recommended to us, We also ordered a few tawas online and found the same issue, heating spots not being consistent, its only this one that has been useful for us

 

[New beginning]

in same boat, tried to go Cast Iron cook ware but before investing in expensive ones tried the local made one. experience is not good at all, it has giant off center heat spot all rotis burns very easily, frustration for my mom and its heavy too..

we cannot choose heat spot free tawa before hand so cast iron on whole is being rejected by mom.
cast iron brand i was looking into is Meyer , does anybody have any experience of it?

mom still considers old hawkins hard anodised was the best one, it was lightweight and no roti burns, almost ever, but am against the coating in general, PFAS etc.
looks like indians are out of options..

Exactly the same experience with cast iron tawa, which is now lying unused. Then I bought a local iron tawa which fared slightly better. While rotis cook better on that one, dosa is one thing we could not fry decent ones on any of these except on non stick ones.

 

[vink]

just like all things in india, all new Cast Iron cookware is produced just to satisfy new age demand of health conscious customers. but with no research, no quality, almost no warranties. even big brands are on this too Prestige, Hawkins, pigeon etc.
everybody knows once you used the product they can deny the request of change or replace..

 

[Kloud]

I don't think something published in research paper becomes accepted as gospel.

So you want Ramdev baba to tell you that water is wet, then? Protein digestibility is an old topic with hundreds of research papers. You can measure it from literal shit. Nobody is debating.

A few research papers get debated, yes, but only the debated ones make it to the news.

Well in that case what was the measurable effect of 20 eggs per day regime?

I competed and got placed. No whey, never steroids.

 

[Heisen]

the thumbnail itself is clickbait, not sure how's the rest of the video is gonna be, 1 roti has like what? 30gms of flour? maybe 50? and he's saying it has 4 spoonful (let's say one spoon has 5gms of sugar at a conservative estimate), according to him majority of the roti consists of sugar? yeah no

Watch the video completely and you will be able to answer your own question. 100% guaranteed. Don't worry about the thumbnail, even though the thumbnail is correct.

To double check you can ask any AI of your choice to confirm.

 

[kiran6680]

Watch the video completely and you will be able to answer your own question. 100% guaranteed. Don't worry about the thumbnail, even though the thumbnail is correct.

To double check you can ask any AI of your choice to confirm.

I did play it in the background while doing other things, and it is not completely a bad resource, thanks. It is too basic, but I can show it to certain people who have these misconceptions. But the thumbnail has multiple issues :

1. She herself does later clarify the difference between complex carbs and sugar. So the thumbnail using the = sign for roti vs sugar is clearly misleading.

2. "No 1" doctor? Do we have doctor Roadies now to find out the no. 1? This is so insulting to every other doctor doing their job properly. And nonsense. We are too obsessed with finding hierarchies in everything. I know a couple who are both Tamil Iyer Brahmins, and the wife has told us multiple times that she is of a "higher" birth than her husband, and the husband even agrees!

 

[arup]

Watch the video completely and you will be able to answer your own question. 100% guaranteed. Don't worry about the thumbnail, even though the thumbnail is correct.

To double check you can ask any AI of your choice to confirm.

I double that. I watched the video and it was very much worth the hour spend watching.

PS: I'm suffering from DMT2,HTN,A,LDL-C,NAFLD,DR

 

[altair21]

Watch the video completely and you will be able to answer your own question. 100% guaranteed. Don't worry about the thumbnail, even though the thumbnail is correct.

its definitely not, that I can guarantee you, I did skim through the video lightly, specially through the beginning parts about, "calorie vs carbohydrate" management, and while she was correct, she skipped through a lot of nuance but it looks like she did go through them later on as per @kiran6680 , but my point nonetheless stands, even with direct glucose conversion, thats a far fetched comparison, and there are tons of things you can do for diabetes management before you end up at the stage of having to consider rotis but I wont go into that, my anecdotal evidence does not make near as qualified to comment on that.

 

[Heisen]

complex carbs and sugar

Both turn into glucose in the body. Whether it is complex carbs or sugar, the glucose produced from 4 spoons for sugar and 1 roti is the same. This is what the = sign is for.

Yes it is clickbaity, but doesn't make it wrong, but yes can be further corrected to avoid confusion.

Instead of

1 roti = 4 spoons of sugar,

can be corrected to

1 roti = 4 spoons of sugar + other stuff.

What is the other stuff? Here:-

Whole Wheat Atta – Per 35g (1 Roti)

Nutrient	Amount (g)	Percentage of Total Weight
Total Carbohydrates	~25.2g	~72%
• Starch (digestible)	~21–23g	~60–65%
• Dietary Fiber	~3–4g	~10–12%
Protein	~4.2g	~12%
Fat	~0.5g	~1.5%
Water (after cooking)	~4–5g	~12–14%
Others (vitamins, minerals)	~0.2g	~0.5%

As you can see most of the roti is Carbs. Sugar Equivalent (Glucose from Starch) -> Starch (21–23g) turns into ~5 to 5.75 teaspoons of sugar (glucose) in the body.

Where is the difference?

Due to extra stuff that roti has and direct sugar doesn't. The processing of that same glucose changes from here in both the cases.

The glucose effect from 1 roti on your body is still similar to eating ~5–6 teaspoons of sugar, but much slower due to:

• Fiber
• Protein

and due to this the following differences happens :-

Feature	Roti (starch)	Sugar (sucrose)
Digestion speed	Slow	Fast
Blood sugar spike	Moderate	High
Nutrient content	High (fiber, protein)	None (empty calories)
Insulin response	Lower	Higher
Health impact (long-term)	Better for satiety & energy	Can lead to insulin resistance, fat gain

even with direct glucose conversion, thats a far fetched comparison,

Doesn't seem like it.

Cause in both the cases, ultimately: Glucose in blood → insulin released → glucose enters cells → energy or storage, gives credibility to the thumbnail, I say it's good enough for India, considering our health status.

there are tons of things you can do for diabetes management before you end up at the stage of having to consider rotis

Even if it is not about diabetes, if we consider normal healthy diet for a fit person, many things come before the rotis as stated in the video. It recommended to cut down on the rotis (no need to completely eliminate) and compensate it with more veggies, (fiber + protien).

 

[kiran6680]

Both turn into glucose in the body. Whether it is complex carbs or sugar, the glucose produced from 4 spoons for sugar and 1 roti is the same. This is what the = sign is for.

Yes it is clickbaity, but doesn't make it wrong, but yes can be further corrected to avoid confusion.

Instead of

1 roti = 4 spoons of sugar,

can be corrected to

1 roti = 4 spoons of sugar + other stuff.

What is the other stuff? Here:-

This is not what "=" means.

 

[Heisen]

This is not what "=" means.

You must be fun at parties. I like you.

Anyway
To other readers the information in the video is a goldmine for your health, don’t get stuck on “the thumbnail is wrong, or it is clickbaity”. Focus on the content which is important. Doesn’t matter if you have diabetes or not.

 

[ssslayer]

I competed and got placed. No whey, never steroids.

Oh great, any photos of stage conditioning? (no, not to test any claims. but genuinely interested in the iron game)
Btw you didn't specify whether 20 eggs made a difference or in the hindsight even 5 eggs would've done.