India is second most ignorant nation of the world: Survey
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Religion is stupid. Any society that gives more importance to religion, loses out in development.
Imagine how much the govt could have benefited if temples could've been taxed.
Even Americans know how much importance Indians give to religion, so they found a way to make money out of this - ISKCON. It sends millions of rupees of donations tax free to America every year.
Imagine how much the govt could have benefited if temples could've been taxed.
Even Americans know how much importance Indians give to religion, so they found a way to make money out of this - ISKCON. It sends millions of rupees of donations tax free to America every year.
derp
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Why only the temples and not the churches, mosques, gurudwaras etc.? Churches are the biggest landholders in India after all....[DOUBLEPOST=1449635472][/DOUBLEPOST]See this..
http://m.moneycontrol.com/news/real-estate/guess-who-indias-largest-landowners-are_1045739.html
jammy420
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This is the funniest rumor that is spreading, that ISKCON is sending money to USA. ISKCON is an individual body guys and it is spreading sanatana dharma even in Islamic,Christian nations without any force or conversion. You need not convert to hinduism for following ISKCON. Those who have doubts about ISKCON can visit this link http://www.thespiritualscientist.co...sends-temple-donations-from-india-to-america/[DOUBLEPOST=1449641895][/DOUBLEPOST]
What we call as development has brought about more destruction. If all the countries need to be like USA then we need 5 planets. And right now USA just suppresses other countries and uses their resources. Must watch "story of stuff" and "the girl who silence the world for 5 mins" from youtube
derp
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Really? I doubt Christians go to a temple on Christmas. Also, I doubt Muslims go to a temple 5 times a day to offer their prayers. Anyways,
Please see the concept of remittances in the calculation of GDP before commenting on the jnflow and outflow of money based on donations.
come on, why are you nitpicking? don't you know that the word "temple" means a place of worship? only 'indians' associate this word with 'hindus'!
even i thought that @pauldmps was talking about places of worship in general, when he mentioned 'govt' and 'taxes'.
derp
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mrnikhilsudo
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Iskcon is like osho. A free for all (sex), non-profit (read extremely profitable) Priddy making entity. They have no religion and the money doesn't go to fund America. America has corporates and industrialised war companies to do that for them
Superbad
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Actually We're the most arrogant people in the world & the arrogance stems from our ignorance.
BTW The survey size is total of 25000 respondents in 33 countries, a flawed study by the sample size itself. We're fighting only on religious beliefs and associated ignorance whereas it consists of many other fields.
BTW The survey size is total of 25000 respondents in 33 countries, a flawed study by the sample size itself. We're fighting only on religious beliefs and associated ignorance whereas it consists of many other fields.
mrnikhilsudo
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You are only an atheist until you start climbing mountains. Will, then you know exactly how small you are[DOUBLEPOST=1449661410][/DOUBLEPOST]
You put your gold in that scheme, you better forget about it. It's a self defeating scheme.
Agree on both points.
You are small compared to the mountains but the god is still invisible.
Care to explain why?
derp
Forerunner
Sovereign gold bond scheme is one of the best scheme to bring out stashed gold. You get an assured return of 2.5% each year and the period of maturity is 8 years. However you can exit post 5 years. This is way better than storing physical gold whose worth depends heavily on the market. One day it might be 27k and the next day it might fall down to 1k. So the government is toying with innovative and lucrative schemes for the common man. Now consider what temples can do with the huge potential interests they can earn thanks to this scheme...
jammy420
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LOL!! May be thats why we are number 2 in ignorance. Despite ISKCON having more than 200 centres in India, we pass so many judgemental things about them even without knowing their basics. These are the 4 basic principles of ISKCON 1. No intoxication 2. No illicit sex 3. No gambling. 4. No meat eating. They do not have religion, but spirituality. Their goal is to elevate the spiritual status of people. As far as fund is concerned, it is wrong to pass comments without involved in affairs directly. We dont even know the basic principles
Wow this thread is rather the epitome of what the article is about. Things have denigrated into discussions about religion, India bashing and what not. Did anyone actually make an effort to see what was behind this obvious click bait headline? No? Here's the company site:
https://www.ipsos-mori.com, which is a marketing firm. So whats the basis of even making a claim? Well being a marketing firm is enough to publish this and good marketing would amount to it appearing some news outlet. In my company we get mails for "efforts" by marketing team to appear in Indian news outlets. Sometimes the mention are as perilous (read advertorial) as they are for the marketing company in this article.
As for the report:
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/_assets/sri/perils/
I tried digging for the sample size but it simply says 25,000 in 33 countries which is not very descriptive. It doesn't even amount to 1k per country. So it could very well be a sample size of 10 and then rounded up to "out of 100" by extrapolation. But why let truth get in the way of a good story.
Secondly lets see the questions by taking the quiz. So the questions are around wealth distribution, internet access etc. There is a question on "how many people do you think in India don't believe in any religion?" I personally know people who are atheists but the "survey" has only 33%, 12% and 0% as the multiple choice answers. The most I can do here is take a gander and say maybe, 12%? But the answer as per this marketing firm is 0%. Before calling me for "being ignorant" and perception skewed, I certainly would have liked to see their source of data or citations; even if the 0 is a rounded down version of 0.1% of population (maybe all the atheists I know) but there aren't any.
But then why try and understand things being presented here when you can simple go into India bashing.
IMO, we are not good but we are not bad too. No country is perfect, as much as we like to point to US, they too are not perfect. Things are progressing at very slow pace but it doesn't help if all we can do is complain.
https://www.ipsos-mori.com, which is a marketing firm. So whats the basis of even making a claim? Well being a marketing firm is enough to publish this and good marketing would amount to it appearing some news outlet. In my company we get mails for "efforts" by marketing team to appear in Indian news outlets. Sometimes the mention are as perilous (read advertorial) as they are for the marketing company in this article.
As for the report:
https://www.ipsos-mori.com/_assets/sri/perils/
I tried digging for the sample size but it simply says 25,000 in 33 countries which is not very descriptive. It doesn't even amount to 1k per country. So it could very well be a sample size of 10 and then rounded up to "out of 100" by extrapolation. But why let truth get in the way of a good story.
Secondly lets see the questions by taking the quiz. So the questions are around wealth distribution, internet access etc. There is a question on "how many people do you think in India don't believe in any religion?" I personally know people who are atheists but the "survey" has only 33%, 12% and 0% as the multiple choice answers. The most I can do here is take a gander and say maybe, 12%? But the answer as per this marketing firm is 0%. Before calling me for "being ignorant" and perception skewed, I certainly would have liked to see their source of data or citations; even if the 0 is a rounded down version of 0.1% of population (maybe all the atheists I know) but there aren't any.
But then why try and understand things being presented here when you can simple go into India bashing.
IMO, we are not good but we are not bad too. No country is perfect, as much as we like to point to US, they too are not perfect. Things are progressing at very slow pace but it doesn't help if all we can do is complain.
You're right, I already mentioned our ignorance associated with the statistical validity of the study.
Any spiritual elevation without assertion of current scientific achievements is absurd. Iscon people still believe and preach that man never set foot on moon. It's a Hollywood studio creation according to them. Please read AC Bhaktivedanta teachings, their charity claims are also very hollow.
jammy420
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Here the complaints about ISKCON was regarding funds going to America, free sex etc which were all bogus claims. As far as I know moon mission is concerned, ISKCON has not given any official statements that man did not land on the moon. Bhaktivedanta swami has given different stands on moon mission. There was no absolute stand about moon mission, rather the stress was on like it is not making any difference to life on earth. No matter what we do, we still have the problem of disease,death,old age, which cannot be cured with no amount of scientific discovery. The emphasis on need for spiritual emancipation rather than propogation of conspiracy.
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