CPU/Mobo Intel i9 9900K vs Ryzen 5600X

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this also why i posted the youtube video as a reference that more cores still matter on any brands processor in modern games . the ps5 xbox both have an 8 core 16 thread inside them so obviouly future of gaming atleast in a processor with more cores . in productivity apps 9900k/10700k already beats out 5600x and sometimes matches a 5800x as well which favour intel. this info is well document several reputable online reviews.

how much proof do people need to see that 9900k is far more relevant than a 5600x atleast.? also the 9900k is a lot more overclockable than a 5600x/5800x ( 90% of them will do 5g/4.7 cache at ease)

desiibond so that one line literally triggered you? (it was not even my intention to ....but whatever)​

 
formula1 said:
this also why i posted the youtube video as a reference that more cores still matter on any brands processor in modern games . the ps5 xbox both have an 8 core 16 thread inside them so obviouly future of gaming atleast in a processor with more cores . in productivity apps 9900k/10700k already beats out 5600x and sometimes matches a 5800x as well which favour intel. this info is well document several reputable online reviews.

how much proof do people need to see that 9900k is far more relevant than a 5600x atleast.? also the 9900k is a lot more overclockable than a 5600x/5800x ( 90% of them will do 5g/4.7 cache at ease)
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Yeah, right. One video where 9900K was better. I have seen countless comparisons where over a myriad of games, these two are close. Moreover, your eyes will not even see any difference when you have two CPUs are doing over 100fps and with a gap of 10 fps on average (sometimes 5600X and sometimes 9900K). What makes difference is how much more efficient 5600X is, how it is brand new, how it supports new and upcoming tech. What makes difference is that the buyer gets 3 years full warranty, not a RMAed device.

Coming to overclocking, how did your overclock go? You ended up with a dead CPU. That is always a risk and I would rather have CPU with full 3 year warranty that costs 3k more than have 18 month warranty CPU that is from 2018 lineup and increase risk of ending up with a CPU that is dead and not in warranty.

So, tell me how your 'used RMAed 9900k' is better when I can get 5600X for 3k more, especially when half the warranty is gone. Also, 9900k is registered to your name so that is another headache if it dies again.
 
desiibond said:
I clearly explained to you that the 5600X is not overhyped
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It is overhyped and a stupid purchase in 2021 even at MSRP of 27000 in India. It's only marginally faster than 9900K at games but at the cost of 80+% CPU usage leaving no wiggle room for multi tasking and background tasks. Your 5600X will just be a CPU for only gaming meanwhile closing all other CPU-heavy tasks such as Chrome/Firefox web browsing/videos/windows updates etc. Those will slow the game down on a 5600X because yeah CPU is already pegged at 80% in AAA games.
As said earlier 6 cores introduced back in 2017 for just $350 were a good purchase, buying the same in 2021 for the same price is plain foolish when next year desktops will get 32 cores and 6 core will be entry level gaming CPUs.

As for the OP's pricing, maybe it's a bit high for an RMA'ed product with less warranty, that's the buyer's problem maybe they can negotiate but 5600X is by no means an overall better purchase in 2021 at all, period, end of discussion. You and I are no one to judge OP's post/pricing. If a buyer thinks it's worth the asking price they'll pay it or else negotiate.
 
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TSMC is overbooked the prices may go up in the coming months it seems.

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/silicon-chip-shortage-delays/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ortage-shows-danger-of-u-s-production-trends/

all i am saying is that it is preferable buy 8 cores now rather than 6 cores. if buyer want ot buy a cheap 10700k by all means go ahead but do not trap yourself on 6 core intel or zen3 . given that consoles are also 8 cores 16 threads.

www.newscientist.com

There's a global shortage of computer chips – what's causing it?

The covid-19 pandemic, a trade war between the US and China and a drought in Taiwan have affected the availability of computer chips for cars, appliances and video game consoles
www.newscientist.com www.newscientist.com
 
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As for the OP's pricing, maybe it's a bit high for an RMA'ed product with less warranty, that's the buyer's problem maybe they can negotiate but 5600X is by no means an overall better purchase in 2021 at all, period, end of discussion. You and I are no one to judge OP's post/pricing. If a buyer thinks it's worth the asking price they'll pay it or else negotiate.
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I have already answered this, roll up and check.
enthusiast29 said:
It is overhyped and a stupid purchase in 2021 even at MSRP of 27000 in India. It's only marginally faster than 9900K at games but at the cost of 80+% CPU usage leaving no wiggle room for multi tasking and background tasks. Your 5600X will just be a CPU for only gaming meanwhile closing all other CPU-heavy tasks such as Chrome/Firefox web browsing/videos/windows updates etc. Those will slow the game down on a 5600X because yeah CPU is already pegged at 80% in AAA games.
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Overpriced and overhyped. Both are different. 5600X, like any in-demand product in 2021 is priced higher. If it was over hyped, why is Intel running around with so many changes. Why are they adopting AMDs chiplet design and why are they in a hurry to bring sweeping changes across the company? Qualcomm, AMD and Apple have made giant strides in chip design and Intel is feeling lot of heat. This is not hype or overhype. This is the reality.
 
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Right said, now 8 core has become mainstream. I remember the days when quad core used to be mainstream. If its pure gaming then 5600x offers good performance but then if anyone is gaming at 4K, the 5600x vs 9900k performance difference will be puny. But then not everyone is gaming at 4K and 1080p is still a popular resolution. One cannot ignore 9900k or Hype 5600x because they will be eventually both shunted out.
 
Fenix said:
Right said, now 8 core has become mainstream. I remember the days when quad core used to be mainstream. If its pure gaming then 5600x offer good performance but then if anyone is gaming at 4K, then 5600x vs 9900k performance difference will be puny. But then not everyone is gaming at 4k.1080p is still a popular resolution. One cannot ignore 9900k or Hype 5600x because they will be eventually both shunted out.
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Exactly my point. I just said 'the pricing of used 9900K this close to 5600X (especially given that 5600X will see price cuts) is not ideal'. And then the whole 'my 9900K is better than 5600X' started. What is the use in having 8 cores when, "in this case", when a 6 core CPU matches 8 cores and is more efficient. Remember this, "IN THIS CASE".
I went with 5800X instead of 5600X because it is an 8 core chip and has massive performance gap over 5600X. In this specific case, I do not see any reason why one should pay 25k for a 9900K.

My point was simple. It was never about 6-core vs 8-core or Intel vs AMD. It is simply about "used 9900K that is overpriced".
 
you complain about my brand new 9900k with reduced warranty but you just bought an grossly overpriced 8 core(5800x) ,thats rich. and 5800x does not have a massive performance gap to 5600x either . you are saying you are here to help people by educating them by buying the right hardware for the money but you yourself are living in delusions about your purchased hardware.


 
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desiibond said:
Overpriced and overhyped. Both are different. 5600X, like any in-demand product in 2021 is priced higher. If it was over hyped, why is Intel running around with so many changes. Why are they adopting AMDs chiplet design and why are they in a hurry to bring sweeping changes across the company? Qualcomm, AMD and Apple have made giant strides in chip design and Intel is feeling lot of heat. This is not hype or overhype. This is the reality.
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Bro why are we ruing his thread? Mods have already moved this conversation to here once already.
Let's move there for further discussion.

As for this argument, Intel's 14nm++++++ node is already very comparable against AMD's 7nm and next year with Alder lake the efficiency with Big.LITTLE architecture will change everything. This just goes to show that there's competition in the market Intel was silent all these years because there was no innovation from competitors and the market was dominated and dictated by Intel. Healthy competition is good for consumers. Now Intel is rushing to improve their process and architecture because there are viable competitors.

Anyways, I'm not saying this cuz I'm intel fanboy, I use AMD myself and very much happy with it but you seem to ignore the future proofing aspect of a purchase and are only focusing on a stupid benchmark which shows 5600X's graph is taller than 9900K by a very little margin and don't really seem to care that it comes at a cost of hefty CPU usage and no room for tasks beside gaming and there are already couple games out there with minimum 6 core CPU requirements to work smooth at 60fps.

Do you really want to purchase a CPU in 2021 which is a minimum requirement for 60fps gaming now? 2 years later it'll be pegged at 100% and microstutters with bad 1% lows.
 
formula1 said:
you complain about my brand new 9900k with reduced warranty but you just bought an grossly overpriced 8 core ,thats rich. and 5800x does not have a massive performance gap to 5600x either . you are saying you are here to help people by educating them by buying the right hardware for the money but you yourself are living in delusions about your purchased hardware.
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I got this as my old 3200G is not able to run any VMs for my home PC where I started heavy workload. I needed one right now!

I got 5800X at this price because I do not have the comfort to wait it out, I needed an 8-core CPU. Zen 3 is the fastest architecture right now, 5800X fits exactly into my need and was within my budget. The next Zen 3 chip costs way more and I did not need 12 cores. Fast, 8-cores, within my budget. Also, I am waiting it out for RTX GPU to have better pricing. NOt in a need for powerful GPU right away. Why did I not go with AMD GPU? Nvidia is better for my machine learning and VM/container needs and I would rather wait it out than buy something for 3 times the price. Need any more enlightenment?

If you think that 5600X and 5800X performance is same for CPU intense workloads, I now get it why you think 9900K should be preferred over new CPUs.

In your case, those who has to buy 9900k for 25k have options. They can go for 5600X or they can even look for used 10700K. Just a little bit more budget and they get brand new 10700K. Just for 3k or 6k extra, they have better options.
 
"In your case, those who has to buy 9900k for 25k have options. They can go for 5600X or they can even look for used 10700K."

exactly my point get of your high horse and let the buyer decide.

on a side note :
a 5900x costs 49k by the way i would have gone with that but i manage to score a 10850k at 32k so..
 
We are no one to decide what price the seller wants to sell at. There are people selling out of warranty 1070 GPU for 20000. Can we start a thread for it, if we do that, then we are putting our time and efforts into a wrong direction. If you are not a buyer and feel the price is not right, use PM as a route. If this sale thread had been here for a month or more with the CPU not selling, ofcourse we can give our suggestions. But not in that thread itself. That will help everyone.
formula1 said:
"In your case, those who has to buy 9900k for 25k have options. They can go for 5600X or they can even look for used 10700K."

exactly my point get of your high horse and let the buyer decide.

on a side note :
a 5900x costs 49k by the way i would have gone with that but i manage to score a 10850k at 32k so..
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Its running stock or overclocked? What are the temps at load.
 
10850k @ 5.1 1.375v tops out 88 (360mm deepcool aio mumbai 34 ambient) on blender classroom which lasts for around 6min
 
formula1 said:
"In your case, those who has to buy 9900k for 25k have options. They can go for 5600X or they can even look for used 10700K."

exactly my point get of your high horse and let the buyer decide.

on a side note :
a 5900x costs 49k by the way i would have gone with that but i manage to score a 10850k at 32k so..
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Your logic is baffling. In which world are you living? 5900X was 60k when I went to buy new CPU and I would rather put that extra 20k or so into getting better GPU (i can go from 3060Ti or so to 3080 when pricing is normal) than getting something where the extra cores are never utilized.
 
Anyways, I made my point. Your 9900k for 25k is grossly overpriced and you are overhyping a dead CPU. And you clearly have no knowledge on how to purchase a balanced rig.
 
Fenix said:
This is higher than your 9900K for sure. Correct me if I am wrong.
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No one was even talking about 10850K. This guy is just shooting in the dark trying to make some really wierd points. That bloody thing costs 43k and can be used as a room heater.
 
"Anyways, I made my point. Your 9900k for 25k is grossly overpriced and you are overhyping a dead CPU. And you clearly have no knowledge on how to purchase a balanced rig."

but my cpu is sealed and alive and just like epstien it did not kill itself (it was my maximus x hero coughing and shitting its bed) took out one stick of my ram as well


"Which one..? 10850k or 5900x..?"

5900x (watch out for appario retail on amazon) it may at most be at 52k maybe)
 
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