CPU/Mobo Intel i9 9900K vs Ryzen 5600X

[desiibond]

"Anyways, I made my point. Your 9900k for 25k is grossly overpriced and you are overhyping a dead CPU. And you clearly have no knowledge on how to purchase a balanced rig."

but my cpu is sealed and alive and just like epstien it did not kill itself (it was my maximus x hero coughing and shitting its bed) took out one stick of my ram as well

Dead in the sense, its old platform and we have better options for lower price. As I said, overclocking is good as long as the CPU is in warranty. WIth yours, buyer can get max of 18 month overclock and after that, has to be run at stock speeds to avoid risk of killing and throwing it away.

 

[enthusiast29]

Dead in the sense, its old platform and we have better options for lower price. As I said, overclocking is good as long as the CPU is in warranty. WIth yours, buyer can get max of 18 month overclock and after that, has to be run at stock speeds to avoid risk of killing and throwing it away.

if u don't know already AM4 is dead too, these are the last CPUs in AM4 lineup. Next year AM5 with DDR5. Both Intel and AMD are dead platforms currently.

 

[desiibond]

"Anyways, I made my point. Your 9900k for 25k is grossly overpriced and you are overhyping a dead CPU. And you clearly have no knowledge on how to purchase a balanced rig."

but my cpu is sealed and alive and just like epstien it did not kill itself (it was my maximus x hero coughing and shitting its bed) took out one stick of my ram as well


"Which one..? 10850k or 5900x..?"

5900x (watch out for appario retail on amazon) it may at most be at 52k maybe)

If I have to buy a 5900X for MSRP on that day, I would again compare its price to 5800X's price on that day. If this feels like a better option and price gap is negligible, I would definitely go for it. See, CHOICE!

Now, if 5900X is going to sell for less, there is very good chance that 5600X and 5800X to be sold at lower price. I believe this is to counter Intel RKL. This makes your 9900K even more overpriced and overhyped.

 

[formula1]

"Dead in the sense, its old platform and we have better options for lower price. As I said, overclocking is good as long as the CPU is in warranty. WIth yours, buyer can get max of 18 month overclock and after that, has to be run at stock speeds to avoid risk of killing and throwing it away."

but socket AM4 is also a dead end no except offcourse if you upgrade fro 5600x to lets say 5900x/5950x but how many people are going to do that in these difficult pandemic times)

socket am5 has different pin layout for ddr5

 

[desiibond]

if u don't know already AM4 is dead too, these are the last CPUs in AM4 lineup. Next year AM5 with DDR5. Both Intel and AMD are dead platforms currently.

Why do you think I built a rig that will last 3-4 years without thinking of upgrade? Once I put in 3070 or equivalent card, I do not have to think of upgrade for 2 years atleast. Even then, I can upgrade to better GPU and last another year or two. By then, DDR5 will be mainstream, with lower pricing.

If you are talking about 5600X vs 9900K, 5600X is better positioned as Intel too is transitioning to LGA1700 this year end. At that point, which one is better for use or resale? One with max of year warranty left or one with 2+ years warranty left and is well sought out by used PC buyers.

 

[formula1]

"Now, if 5900X is going to sell for less, there is very good chance that 5600X and 5800X to be sold at lower price. I believe this is to counter Intel RKL. This makes your 9900K even more overpriced and overhyped."

please just stop kidding yourself man prices are only going to increase from here on out look at these articles and TSMC is having a water drought and are overbooked.

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/silicon-chip-shortage-delays/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ortage-shows-danger-of-u-s-production-trends/


5800x msrp 40k and 5900x msrp is 50k iwas told in feb theat (the folks at primeabgb) that 5900x stock will come at msrp in april


"This is higher than your 9900K for sure. Correct me if I am wrong."

my dud 9900k did 5.1g at 1.42 volts (its silicon lottery) but 5g at 1.3 v at a coolish 89c blender classroom run for 7min

 

[enthusiast29]

Why do you think I built a rig that will last 3-4 years without thinking of upgrade? Once I put in 3070 or equivalent card, I do not have to think of upgrade for 2 years atleast. Even then, I can upgrade to better GPU and last another year or two. By then, DDR5 will be mainstream, with lower pricing.

If you are talking about 5600X vs 9900K, 5600X is better positioned as Intel too is transitioning to LGA1700 this year end. At that point, which one is better for use or resale? One with max of year warranty left or one with 2+ years warranty left and is well sought out by used PC buyers.

5600X will be outdated for games or be the bare minimum in 1.5-2 years and 9900K will still hold out way better and can still provide very respectable performance for upcoming 3 years, it's a matter of perspective if you like to switch CPUs within 2 years sure go for mid-range products but if you wanna buy it once and forget it until 3-4 years a high-end or flagship (even previous gen) product makes sense if it's at a decent price to performance ratio.
And mind you 5600X has the worst price to performance ratio in the past decade.

 

[desiibond]

"Now, if 5900X is going to sell for less, there is very good chance that 5600X and 5800X to be sold at lower price. I believe this is to counter Intel RKL. This makes your 9900K even more overpriced and overhyped."

please just stop kidding yourself man prices are only going to increase from here on out look at these articles and TSMC is having a water drought and are overbooked.

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/silicon-chip-shortage-delays/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ortage-shows-danger-of-u-s-production-trends/


5800x msrp 40k and 5900x msrp is 50k iwas told in feb theat (the folks at primeabgb) that 5900x stock will come at msrp in april

Boss, you are the one who mentioned that stock is coming at MSRP in April and that pricing will go up. And you are asking me to stop kidding. Do you even know what you are typing?

5600X will be outdated for games or be the bare minimum in 1.5-2 years and 9900K will still hold out way better and can still provide very respectable performance for upcoming 3 years

Joke of the century. Where is that oscar award. 9900k is just matching 5600X in games that support 8 cores right now and you think it will be better thatn 5600X after 2 years. SLOW CLAP.

 

[formula1]

"Boss, you are the one who mentioned that stock is coming at MSRP in April and that pricing will go up. And you are asking me to stop kidding. Do you even know what you are typing?"

like i said the primeabagb folks told me back in feb you can call them a confirm if you are interested

also watch out for appario retail on amazon

 

[desiibond]

"Now, if 5900X is going to sell for less, there is very good chance that 5600X and 5800X to be sold at lower price. I believe this is to counter Intel RKL. This makes your 9900K even more overpriced and overhyped."

please just stop kidding yourself man prices are only going to increase from here on out look at these articles and TSMC is having a water drought and are overbooked.

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/silicon-chip-shortage-delays/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/...ortage-shows-danger-of-u-s-production-trends/


5800x msrp 40k and 5900x msrp is 50k iwas told in feb theat (the folks at primeabgb) that 5900x stock will come at msrp in april


"This is higher than your 9900K for sure. Correct me if I am wrong."

my dud 9900k did 5.1g at 1.42 volts (its silicon lottery) but 5g at 1.3 v at a coolish 89c blender classroom run for 7min

And it went to after world, taking one stick of RAM with it.

"Boss, you are the one who mentioned that stock is coming at MSRP in April and that pricing will go up. And you are asking me to stop kidding. Do you even know what you are typing?"

like i said the primeabagb folks told me back in feb you can call them a confirm if you are interested

also watch out for appario retail on amazon

So, either way, 25k for used and RMAed 9900k is overpriced and you have overhyped its potential.

And mind you 5600X has the worst price to performance ratio in the past decade.

Shall we talk about price to performance ratio of used RMAed 18 month old 9900K?

 

[formula1]

"So, 25k for used and RMAed 9900k is overpriced and overhyped."

my 9900k is complicated since its not used but as in has a reduced warranty

on a side not do you have a personal vendetta against me or what ? i dont even understand sometimes why are you defending 6 core 12 thread in 2021

 

[desiibond]

"So, 25k for used and RMAed 9900k is overpriced and overhyped."

my 9900k is complicated since its not used but as in has a reduced warranty

Oh, did not know that if I buy an unused old CPU (with half the warranty left), its performance goes up, even better than what is available from current generation CPUs. Will it also come with longer warranty?

For so long, I have been asking to show how your 9900K is worth 25k. Till now, I have not seen anything that makes me think 'I better get this one'.

Stop circling around and come to the point. Why should one pay 25k for your 9900K that has half the warranty left and is already RMAed. Why should one not go for newer CPUs or find used 10th gen Intel chips.

 

[formula1]

"And it went to after world, taking one stick of RAM with it."

no but i was running it at 1.42 volts 24/7 my mistake lesson learnt the hard way.
"Oh, did not know that if I buy an unused old CPU (with half the warranty left), its performance goes up, even better than what is available from current generation CPUs. Will it also come with longer warranty?"

look man its simple i have based the price on that fact that a new 9900k (which is atleast more competitive than a 5600x btw) will last way longer that its limited warranty left

 

[desiibond]

"And it went to after world, taking one stick of RAM with it."

no but i was running it at 1.42 volts 24/7 my mistake lesson learnt the hard way.

Overclocking has the potential to kill a CPU. Why pay 25k for this and get half the warranty on a 2018 CPU (year or release, not of purchase) when one can get newer ones and can risk overclocking for 3 years. Thats year and a half extra.

I am not saying that your 9900k is bad. All I say is, 25k for your unit is overpriced and you are overhyping its performance.

 

[Fenix]

Oh, did not know that if I buy an unused old CPU (with half the warranty left), its performance goes up, even better than what is available from current generation CPUs. Will it also come with longer warranty?

For so long, I have been asking to show how your 9900K is worth 25k. Till now, I have not seen anything that makes me think 'I better get this one'.

Stop circling around and come to the point. Why should one pay 25k for your 9900K that has half the warranty left and is already RMAed. Why should one not go for newer CPUs or find used 10th gen Intel chips.

Just out of curiosity, I have been running a 2600k for like 8 years now almost. I have overclocked it to a stable 5.3Ghz and ran stress test for 8 hours with no crash using Hyper 212 in Push pull config. Currently it's been running for 4.8Ghz for 6 years and 2 years I was running it 24x7. It does overclock using the 53x multiplier, maybe I won th silicon lottery. I think it's a D0 steeping, how much can I expect for it now?

 

[formula1]

"I am not saying that your 9900k is bad. All I say is, 25k for your unit is overpriced and you are overhyping its performance."

like i said the fact are out there i cant do more on that front. ill leave it to the buyers good judgment

besides i only moved on to 10850k bcz i scored it for 32k (usually 36k) other wise i would have just used this brand new 9900k( but i also would have to invest in a new z390 mobo)

 

[desiibond]

"I am not saying that your 9900k is bad. All I say is, 25k for your unit is overpriced and you are overhyping its performance."

like i said the fact are out there i cant do more on that front. ill leave it to the buyers good judgment

Then you should not have started this my 9900K is better than 5600X. What you shared are not facts, they are exaggerated overhyped statements. What I shared are facts.

Just out of curiosity, I have been running a 2600k for like 8 years now almost. I have overclocked it to a stable 5.3Ghz and ran stress test for 8 hours with no crash using Hyper 212 in Push pull config. Currently it's been running for 4.8Ghz for 6 years and 2 years I was running it 24x7. It does overclock using the 53x multiplier, maybe I won th silicon lottery. I think it's a D0 steeping, how much can I expect for it now?

Can I get it for free?

On a serious note, do not sell it. You did win the silicon lottery. I think I have also won the lottery with 5800X as I am able to hit really benchmarks for extended periods of time. Anyways, time will tell.
I still have my 2012 Mac Mini as a backup. Just in case, I encounter issues with primary system, I will have something to use till the issue is fixed. Will anyone even consider buying it?

 

[Fenix]

Then you should not have started this my 9900K is better than 5600X. What you shared are not facts, they are exaggerated overhyped statements. What I shared are facts.

Can I get it for free?

On a serious note, do not sell it. You did win the silicon lottery. I think I have also won the lottery with 5800X as I am able to hit really benchmarks for extended periods of time. Anyways, time will tell.
I still have my 2012 Mac Mini as a backup. Just in case, I encounter issues with primary system, I will have something to use till the issue is fixed. Will anyone even consider buying it?

Well I am getting a good price for it but buying anything from Intel or AMD has become very price now.

 

[desiibond]

Well I am getting a good price for it but buying anything from Intel or AMD has become very price now.

lets take this discussion offline. PM.

 

[desiibond]

"Then you should not have started this my 9900K is better than 5600X."

huh the orignal thread on that computer hardware forum was not started by me i think it was the mods? or are you talking about the video i posted ?

yep. Mods moved it to another thread. That and the video.