Any reason you want a picture? Then you will say you want the serial number, then open the outdoor unit and compressor number and so on. When I have given a specific model that I have it should suffice. FYI. It Reads Made in Thailand.[DOUBLEPOST=1399366415][/DOUBLEPOST]Why was my post removed? Any specific reason? Requesting a member to maintain decorum of the forum is good for the forum. I think forum should encourage that rather than deleting posts.
Yeah but when a sales guy said Sharp uses MHI compressors, you were quick to embrace it
He didnt say sharp uses MHI..
I know he didn't say it - I just said he was quick to accept vvinashh's claim that it was an MHI, and added it to his review even though he was unable to see the compressor or verify it himself
Only Sharp is comparing Inverters vs 2 star ACs.
Yes but what is mentioned in their brochures about 20-30% savings compared to a regular AC. That is usually referred against 2 Star ACs, hence savings look huge on paper.
No. Their website comparing 2 star ACs and the Inverters claims a savings of 52%.
Ok if you go to daikin website which shows payback period, between a 3 Star and Inverter they mention a payback of roughly 4 years if the AC is run for 8 hours a day for 8 months in a year! Now most members agree that for residence most houses will use it for around 4 months and your payback period simply doubles. These are actual manufacturer claimed figures under "ideal" conditions so even if we consider that, you find that inverter are not beneficial in many scenarios and are quite great with great payback if say its run through out the year for say 10-12 hours a day.
Link please.
its daikinindia / com.Link please.
Also you haven't answered my earlier query on sizing a non-inverter AC for a single room
So you're saying a BTU calculation can vary by 50% - in other words you admit heat load calculations are hugely inaccurate? If you choose a higher capacity AC to account for the max variation, won't you have many on-off cycles when the heat load is lower? How do you propose optimally sizing the AC for a 50% variation?
www.msphptest.com.php5-14.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com / daikin2012 / DaikinWeb /^ Yes daikinindia.com has many pages, hence I requested for the link to the specific page
So you're saying a BTU calculation can vary by 50% - in other words you admit heat load calculations are hugely inaccurate? If you choose a higher capacity AC to account for the max variation, won't you have many on-off cycles when the heat load is lower? How do you propose optimally sizing the AC for a 50% variation?
I don't know what you did, but here's what the daikin calculator said when comparing an inverter and a 2014 5 star. 7k vs 11k is a ~37% savings :-
The big question - If your bills are 1000 rs a month, how were you expecting to recover your additional costs with 30% savings i.e. 300 rs a month?!
Which city has an ambient temperature consistently at 35C - night or day?
If you read carefully I have clearly stated I had compared a 3 Star AC to Daikin Inverter. Here is the screen if you feel I am lying.
Yes I have input prices that I found online for the products. That too the lowest prices I could find online for each of them.The payback period is not "manufacturer claimed" as you said - the prices are all user inputs. I can guess what prices you put
Any house inside temperature is usually around 35. It may be plus / minus a couple of points but usually the inside temperature has been found around that range. Also the AC has to cool the inner temperature, so based on that all calculations are to be made and not based on outside temperatures.
Why don't you compare a Voltas 3 star to a Voltas inverter?
Yes why do members keep guessing other people's bills and say that people with Inverters are getting 100 Rs. bills? If some joker told you that and you bought your AC actually expecting 100 Rs bills, then who is the real joker?
Why are you debating inverters when you have no idea how a basic AC works. Where do you think the heat is being dumped - Inside or outside? Do you know your refrigerant is cooled in the outdoor unit? Is it easier for this refrigerant to cool if the outside air is hot or cold? Take some time off to figure out these basic concepts, then maybe you can make some sensible posts.
There is no such restriction on what I need to choose. Daikin Site offers various brands and Voltas is a leading brand so I chose that. I did not compare it to any unbranded AC, so if a good brand is available at X price why would I choose something else? And its a fact that if you do real calculations most of the time the payback period is so long, its not worth considering inverter ACs just for power savings.
Please mind your language on this. I had mentioned that its impossible for someone to get a bill of Rs. 100 if its used for 12/24 hours as this forum is flooded with posts in this regard. Either forum moderators need to ask proof or delete it because the members are shouting over the roof that this is possible even though technically its not possible, but there might be some unassuming members who will feel that really inverters are saving so much money.
Ok I have no basic knowledge of how ACs work. So will not post further on this forum. Have had enough of members trying to reject what others say and just to prove that what they say is right and what others think is completely wrong. I thought this forum was more to do with members helping each other find the perfect solution for their AC requirements, but here I find most of the members are busy promoting Sharp ACs and trying to prove only that is the best and there are no other ACs in the market that can meet their standards. Here some members have tried hard to discuss with figures how only in some scenarios inverters are good, but in most cases it does not result in a power savings.
