Graphic Cards Is it worth it to buy 9070xt now?

DLSS4 upscaling works on RTX 20 series, not to forget any game with DLSS 3 support can be upgraded to DLSS4 via the Nvidia software (so no need of intervention from game devs).

Sure FSR4 works on FSR3.1 supported games as well but still, there are just a very small % of gamers with GPUs that can use FSR4. This alone is the biggest con of FSR4 & will impact adoption. Anyways, let's see how it goes.

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GodfatherToka said:
Try Optiscaler and use XESS with DLSS inputs on AMD 6000 or 7000 series card, then compare it with FSR3.1 implementation in the same game. I have a 6700XT and on Alanwake2 and Cyberpunk, you can clearly see just how much better even XESS looks when compared to FSR3.1/3.0.
FSR4 is way closer to DLSS but the support drop for old generation is sad.
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I tried Optiscaler briefly but decided to use the native implementation of DLSS of the game I was playing. For no particular reason btw, I just didn't notice much difference maybe I didn't apply correct settings. Might give it a try next time I play a game that has it.

OMEGA44-XT said:
DLSS4 upscaling works on RTX 20 series, not to forget any game with DLSS 3 support can be upgraded to DLSS4 via the Nvidia software (so no need of intervention from game devs).

Sure FSR4 works on FSR3.1 supported games as well but still, there are just a very small % of gamers with GPUs that can use FSR4. This alone is the biggest con of FSR4 & will impact adoption. Anyways, let's see how it goes.
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What's worse is that unlike NVIDIA who can use their market domination as a way to push DLSS4 frame gen, AMD doesn't have the same benefit for FSR4's frame gen. FSR4's adoption will 100% be impacted. (I just realised I typed the same thing just worded differently lol)
 
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Will stock levels for the non-XT (or the XT) be good enough by August? Given that the non-XT's price hasn't reduced all that much since launch due to low supply, I don't really think supply will improve. Also, would the XT variant reduce to about 68k within that time?

You could say I could go for the XT variant, which is decreasing in price (some models are available for ₹71k) but I'm afraid it'll be a bottleneck for a R5 7600. (Based on this)

 
gtx10606gig said:
Will stock levels for the non-XT (or the XT) be good enough by August? Given that the non-XT's price hasn't reduced all that much since launch due to low supply, I don't really think supply will improve. Also, would the XT variant reduce to about 68k within that time?

You could say I could go for the XT variant, which is decreasing in price (some models are available for ₹71k) but I'm afraid it'll be a bottleneck for a R5 7600. (Based on this)
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They might be, at least for non-XT variant if I have to guess. August is pretty far and non-XT variant isn't as popular as XT. But don't expect the price so drop so soon. Will probably need to wait a year if you want to see prices go down for real. (Unless NVIDIA wakes up and decides to lower their prices or launch another product). Only an insider will truly know.

Ryzen 7600 is perfectly fine with 9070/XT. Of course it might struggle with CPU intensive games as its an entry level processor for 7000 series but overall it's a good fit.
 
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YeAhx said:
I tried Optiscaler briefly but decided to use the native implementation of DLSS of the game I was playing. For no particular reason btw, I just didn't notice much difference maybe I didn't apply correct settings. Might give it a try next time I play a game that has it.


What's worse is that unlike NVIDIA who can use their market domination as a way to push DLSS4 frame gen, AMD doesn't have the same benefit for FSR4's frame gen. FSR4's adoption will 100% be impacted. (I just realised I typed the same thing just worded differently lol)
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the difference is huge, the setup is also stupidly easy
 
Managed to snag the Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT from Scl Gaming for 70,690/- a couple days back.
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I have seen other 9070 XT models (ASRock / PowerColor) drop down to around this price, but first time seen the Sapphire Pulse model go down so low. Payment was in-full using Credit Card without any processing / shipping charges. Card was shipped in a day and expected to be delivered on Monday.

gtx10606gig said:
Will stock levels for the non-XT (or the XT) be good enough by August? Given that the non-XT's price hasn't reduced all that much since launch due to low supply, I don't really think supply will improve. Also, would the XT variant reduce to about 68k within that time?
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Rumour is that AMD has stopped shipping the non-XT model to retailers entirely in preparation for the 9070 GRE, so the non-XT's price dropping down is very unliklely. 68K ought to be possible for the XT model in a few months however.
 
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Seeing the Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT model at 69K on kharidiye.com. Never ordered from here, but a quick search seems to indicate that they are legit. Also seeing slightly lower prices for a couple of 5070 Ti models over at Computech, possibly indicating some downward pressure on prices overall.

For anyone curious I did get my Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT delivered a few days back. Haven't had time to game yet, but the Superposition benchmark puts it a cool 3.5x faster than my old RTX 2060. Temps are excellent and the card was sitting comfortably at 65°C throughout the benchmark even with the summer heat.
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GauravDas said:
Seeing the Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT model at 69K on kharidiye.com. Never ordered from here, but a quick search seems to indicate that they are legit. Also seeing slightly lower prices for a couple of 5070 Ti models over at Computech, possibly indicating some downward pressure on prices overall.

For anyone curious I did get my Sapphire Pulse 9070 XT delivered a few days back. Haven't had time to game yet, but the Superposition benchmark puts it a cool 3.5x faster than my old RTX 2060. Temps are excellent and the card was sitting comfortably at 65°C throughout the benchmark even with the summer heat.
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Nahi kharidunga
 
I'm also looking to buy 9070 xt. Prices have fallen from 75k to 70k. Going to hold on a bit more and then pull the trigger.

Asrock 9070 xt models are 70k now. I'm confused whether to buy the xt or the non-xt model. Non-xt model is very efficient, consuming around 100watt less for around 10% less performance. xt is just around 5-6k more expensive.
 
roniistar said:
Asrock 9070 xt models are 70k now. I'm confused whether to buy the xt or the non-xt model. Non-xt model is very efficient, consuming around 100watt less for around 10% less performance. xt is just around 5-6k more expensive.
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For the same power, xt will probably be faster or for the same perf it should take slightly lower power.
You should be able to set power limits and undervolt to make xt just as ( and probably slightly more ) efficient.

Take xt over non xt all things being equal.
Logically, it might also have better components rated for high power usage but this will depend on model.
 
Tracer_Bullet said:
For the same power, xt will probably be faster or for the same perf it should take slightly lower power.
You should be able to set power limits and undervolt to make xt just as ( and probably slightly more ) efficient.

Take xt over non xt all things being equal.
Logically, it might also have better components rated for high power usage but this will depend on model.
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You are right. Possibility of xt using better components skipped my mind. Do you think the asrock steel legend models are better than the sapphire pulse models?
 
roniistar said:
You are right. Possibility of xt using better components skipped my mind. Do you think the asrock steel legend models are better than the sapphire pulse models?
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No idea, i am not following any of this.
Its not just potentially better components to support higher power, it also has more cores.

So at the same power, say at 9070 power limits, 9070xt will probably be slightly faster and quite efficient.
And at same performance, it will probably take slightly less power.
9070 is efficient because it has lower power limits, lower clocks. The last bit of performance always takes much more power and so efficiency reduces.

Without power limits, 9070 can also become inefficient but faster.
Look at this guy stretch it to limit with risky mods.

 
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gtx10606gig said:
Wait, so you should undervolt the 9070XT to get a similar consumption as the 9070? Or cap the power draw of the GPU at 220W for this?
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Setting power limit should do, but undervoting gives you better performance at same power limit. So do that too. 9070 can do that too obviously.

I run my 3080 at 70-75% power limit most of the time. I don't lose too much perf through undervolting. Obviously we can undervolt at high PL too but in 3080 atleast it doesnt scale that well so there isn't that much to gain. So i use higher limits only when i need it.

Google search gives this, someone with similar idea.

 
Really appreciate all the references to undervolting in this thread. I was able to get ~5% performance boost with a -50mV offset and some VRAM tuning (2800MHz, fast timing) in the Adrenalin software.

This is stable across both Superposition and the Steel Nomad benchmarks.
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gtx10606gig said:
Wait, so you should undervolt the 9070XT to get a similar consumption as the 9070? Or cap the power draw of the GPU at 220W for this?
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For what it's worth, my Total Board Power (TBP) remains at 304W with a -50mV offset. A lower voltage offset does reduce TBP, but it wasn't stable on my card. I also messed around a bit with power limits, and had seen TBP at 240W with around -20% power limit. This was fully stable, with around 5-6% performance reduction on Superposition.

Do not that this is the TBP reported on HWiNFO. I don't really have the ability to measure wall power, but this might still be useful.
 
el_diablo said:
Also try running some games on max RT settings to check stability. I was able to pass through all the benchmarking tests but the observed crashes when I cranked up everything to ultra using RT on Witcher 3.
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Gotcha, will do a run through Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 over the weekend. I did have a run through Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition and an indie game called Blacktail (with Optiscaler) and encountered no stability issues.
 
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