Graphic Cards Is it worth it to buy 9070xt now?
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GauravDas
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Did a quick run of built-in benchmark in Cyberpunk 2077 at 1440p. Settings:
- Preset: RT Overdrive (i.e.Path Tracing enabled)
- Upscaling: FSR3 Quality -> FSR4 Quality (using Optiscaler)
- Film Grain and Chromatic Aberration turned off
Take note that I am running my 9070 XT with -30% total power, so a regular one should perform better. ~43 FPS seems okay, and you can turn ON frame generation to have a smoother presentation.
I personally play at 4K, and this card isn't fast enough for 4K + Path Tracing even at FSR Performance, but regular RT modes work well. I also find 4K FSR Performance to be much more temporally stable than 1440p FSR Quality.
Let me know if there are any other specific benchmarks you'd want me to run.
LYNK BYTE
Beginner
This is what i wanted to see thank you so much for taking your time to post this
gtx10606gig
Contributor
gtx10606gig
Contributor
For those running regular 9070XTs, what temps do you have? This is for both core and memory. Also, should an 80% PL work in bringing temps down to a manageable level?
GauravDas
Beginner
Seeing some ASUS models at suspiciously low prices on Shweta Computers. A non-XT 9070 for 59.3K, 9070 XT for 66.5K, and even a 5070 Ti for 82K!
There's a couple months old thread on TE itself with multiple people reporting the website is legit https://techenclave.com/threads/is-shwetacomputers-com-pc-shopping-site-trusted.225427/. The prices sound too good to be true, especially as ASUS models are typically more expensive, but perhaps someone interested could message them and check.
There's a couple months old thread on TE itself with multiple people reporting the website is legit https://techenclave.com/threads/is-shwetacomputers-com-pc-shopping-site-trusted.225427/. The prices sound too good to be true, especially as ASUS models are typically more expensive, but perhaps someone interested could message them and check.
Funnily enough, I moved back from 70% PL → 81% PL to regain some performance. Here's my temps after a 5 run loop of the Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition benchmark.
- Core Temp: 64 °C
- Hot Spot Temp: 80 °C
- Memory Temp: 88 °C (!)
- Fan Speed: 1581 RPM
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Tracer_Bullet
Herald
yes, so you will need to change fan curve to get lower temps. At 2k rpm you will get lower temps vs before.
Since fans can be easier to replace, i run them slightly higher ~65-70% in my case and get lower temps.
Memory temp in high 80s seems to be normal, so it should be fine.
Disciple29
Contributor
gtx10606gig
Contributor
ROCm isn't as great as CUDA, unfortunately, and has much less support
And, to answer your question, AMD hasn't really been known for productivity in their GPU department.
And, to answer your question, AMD hasn't really been known for productivity in their GPU department.
OMEGA44-XT
Innovator
Will be inferior in general for sure, no doubt. It will be competitive in some cases for sure. Check some reviews which have productivity benchmarks.
its not, just not, not with DLSS 4.0 Transformer model release, AMD still needs a couple of generations to even match Nvidia for upscaling, but it is indeed a very viable card now.
P.S. which games are giving you ghosting with DLSS and not with FSR? no really? I wanna know that
if you want RT. go for second hand Nvidia, Ray Reconstruction alone is essential in cyberpunk imo, RT on AMD is just serviceable
YeAhx
Galvanizer
I think for me that game was Silent hill 2 but I'm not sure as it's been some time now, I just remember noticing weird stuff happening while using DLSS which disappeared when I switched to FSR. Here's a video showing ghosting using DLSS in Silent hill 2 which looking at the comments section seems like it got fixed by a patch later. I think it's the implementation of specific DLSS versions (same for FSR) combined with games which can/will have issues like the one I described and is not true for all games or DLSS/FSR in general. It's good that we have multiple options now including XeSS which to be honest is looking alright these days, like the differences aren't noticeable while playing, only when you take screenshots and compare pixels you realise.
Also today my stance on frame generation is slightly positive than it used to be earlier. I tried frame gen on Horizon: Forbidden West and I was amazed by how smooth it was without glitches or anything while giving more FPS (although some fake ones), the only thing that's noticeable is the input delay which is expected and sometimes inconsistency in the frames as they dip down from time to time depending on areas. The dipping can be resolved or at least mitigated using a separate dedicated GPU for frame gen but the input delay is here to stay.
If you are satisfied with having slightly more input delay or are one of those who didn't/couldn't notice then frame gen is amazing.
ah, the one you linked was comparing was doing 3.5 vs 3.7, 3.7 did solve some ghosting issues we were seeing, you dont need to wait for a game patch to upgrade DLSS, simply swap the DLL and you are fine, I have been running zero dawn on 4.0 for months now, dlss perf easily gives me 150+ fps, and that game is a treat playing at that fps
as long you are not sensitive to input lag, fg is a fame changer for sure, I dont have a 40xx series card, so dont have first hand experience with it, but tbh my 3060ti on dlss perf is still chugging along pretty nicely, I'll stick with it unless AMD gets upto par or nvidia finally gets good price, and me personally prefer lesser visual fidelity over input lag, I tried fg on a 40xx card once, and while input lag was barely noticeable, for me it was still there.
Disciple29
Contributor
I thought so and it is the reason why I think creators should think about nvidia rtx gpus over amd rx cards.
YeAhx
Galvanizer
Yeah don't remember the exact DLSS version. It's nice that you can just swap DLL file and don't have to wait for devs to implement it but isn't that true for DLSS versions on the same version tier ? For example you can update dlss 3.5 to 3.7 but not 3.5 to 4.1. The numbers are of course just for example. Which is why I didn't bother trying to update it.
Horizon forbidden west is much more demanding than zero dawn, the first area (tutorial area) is good performance wise while also looking pretty but as soon as you reach the next one FPS started to dip for me. From 90FPS to 60-65FPS. Classic case of only optimising the major areas lol.
nah, you can, with 4.X release, nvidia has released an update in their Geforce Experience app, where you can force DLSS 4.0, as for swapping DLLs, you can swap for whatever version you want, be it 3.XX or 4.XX, only difference is, you need DLSSTweaks if you want to force presets
it really shouldnt, what are your specs? even on my 3060ti build with maxed settings, I easily get 60-70s with dlss quality, as for fps drops, Forbidden West gets way more demanding as soon as the area opens up, its expected
YeAhx
Galvanizer
I should install the app, It's just called NVIDIA App now right? As far as I know Geforce Experience is a deprecated app now. I previously had it installed but uninstalled it because I didn't like the fact that I basically had two softwares doing the same thing (NVIDIA control panel and the app). Time to give another try next time I update the driver (Kinda cozy with the current older one as I heard newer drivers are unstable). ver.566.36
My pc has a 5700X3D with RTX 3070 and 16GB RAM. Planning to increase the RAM to 32GB as that's the sweet spot these days but I'm not really playing games that much anymore. Played just 2 hours of Forbidden west till now.
Download the Nvidia app, and just keep that one.
Yes, you can force DLSS4 in most games via the app
CasualGamer91
Forerunner