Israel Hezbollah Pager Attack.

How and why did Russia let this happen?

Didnt they even had military base in Syria ....loaded with missiles and Fighter jets.

Because this kind of attack has happened before also but it was repelled with help of Russia and Iran.

I think the rebels found right time with Russia busy and Iran getting caught up with Israel.
 
That Swiss bank black money ....forget about 15laks into peoples account ......not even 1 rupee has come back into Indian banks .
Totally agree. Plus all his talks (or his defence minister's talks) about "Ghar mein ghus ke maarenege!" After that populist rhetoric, so many encounters have happened in J&K and these guys are still sitting here on their asses. No ghussing anywhere in anyone's ghars. Cowards will gladly sacrifice soldiers lives. These ministers are dragging our country down a lot globally.
 
Israeli intel completely missed this one just as they missed Oct 7.

Was nobody watching Syria?

After all they did to weaken Hezbollah and Iran Mossad didn't realise an opportunity was created that would be exploited

You have moments of brilliance and then some times of incompetence

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Syrian army was getting stronger? :wacky:

Upto a week ago Israel thought Assad would hold on because the Russians were his protection and maybe Israel could cut a deal re:Hezbollah. That Assad could work with Israel instead of Iran.

Then everything collapsed...
How and why did Russia let this happen?

Didnt they even had military base in Syria ....loaded with missiles and Fighter jets.

Because this kind of attack has happened before also but it was repelled with help of Russia and Iran.

I think the rebels found right time with Russia busy and Iran getting caught up with Israel.
Missiles and fighter jets can't do much unless there are ground forces which Hezbollah used to do. This time they could not help and if the Syrians were unwilling to fight then what can any ally do?

Things happened too fast as well. The only remaining were Iran's militias in Iraq that could not get there in time.
 
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Bibi seems cautiously optimistic.
Of course, he is playing his cards optimistic in the given situation :)

People forgets that Russia is a 2nd world single country fighting multiple wars with a huge collation of 1st world countries without any open support from anyone other than deliric NK.

As far as Syrian Christians, almost all of them already might've left the country (heard most of them are already in EU) except unlucky and poor.
 
Totally agree. Plus all his talks (or his defence minister's talks) about "Ghar mein ghus ke maarenege!" After that populist rhetoric, so many encounters have happened in J&K and these guys are still sitting here on their asses. No ghussing anywhere in anyone's ghars. Cowards will gladly sacrifice soldiers lives. These ministers are dragging our country down a lot globally.
Forget ghus ke maarenge..
Look at them handling of Manipur .. 2 years almost and still could not bring one state in proper law and order. I know northeast is not easy but comeon what steps have been taken. It's being neglected to a level of criminality.
As far as Syrian Christians, almost all of them already might've left the country (heard most of them are already in EU) except unlucky and poor.
I use to think that way but there are still many Christian living there. A good percentage.
Please do correct me I am wrong but I think they are facing same problems what palestines say they facing...

They let in jews and then jews started pushing them aside.. same with lebanon christians ..they allowed those refugees muslimes who later started pushing christians aside .

That is what I believe is their story. But never researched must so could be wrong.
 
I use to think that way but there are still many Christian living there. A good percentage.
Historically they are among the oldest Christianity in the world, it is said that there are ~3 lakhs Christians in Syria now (vs 1.5 million in 2011).
Was a huge influence for Christianity from centuries back (even in places like Kerala where near extinct Suriyani language still have liturgical relevance due to religious-historic connections), constant religious-ethnic conflicts in that region annihilated them. Obama sponsored jasmine revolution which ensued massive instability in the region caused prosecution against already repressed local ethnicities, after which they massively (1/3rd of populance) migrated to outside the region. The new powers-to-be, most probably is going to be harsher.
 
Assad was good to India, they never voted against India in UN.

Assad never wanted to a be a ruler he was forced to do so by his father.
Turkey backstabbed, they threw the Astana accords down the bin and Assad just felt betrayed. He doesn't have the money to pay huge salaries for the troops and welfare. US controls all of the Syrian Oil fields. They don't have IRG troops to help him. The tiger forces of Assad where needed to protect the Russian bases. Israel killed lot of IRG commanders throught out the years in Syria.

Russia also doesnt have boots on the ground. Had they had Wagner group they could have kept a perimeter around the base. Russian military telegram channels said that it's impossible to protect the air base from cheap drones strapped with rpg. They need a 30 to 50km buffer surrounding the base. They also need a buffer of 80km for artillery.

Right now Russian AN124 aircraft are loading up the S300/S400 and other heavy air defenses. Some of the heavy tracked armor are making their way to the only foreign naval base of russia.

Russian aircraft carrier is also under repair, so they cannot use that.

As it stands Israel is going to occupy half of Syria and eventually annex it. While the other half will be annexed by Turkey.

ISIS and Al Qeada never attacked Israel even once, neither has Israel attacked them. Israel just started the greater Israel project right before our eyes. They have DC politicians in their pockets by decade long honey trap operations. Now without Russia no one is going to stop Israel from growing 10x in territory.
 
Do you think Israel will be able to keep those territories comparatively peaceful ?
That depends on whether Arab countries have the stomach to challenge a nuclear armed Israel. Greater Israel project includes territory from Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Jordon and half of Saudi arabia. So their modus operandi will be to arm insurgency in these countries, destabilize it and then a create a buffer zone within in these new countries.
 
Assad was good to India, they never voted against India in UN.
But it was so unstable that beside just vote count there was nothing in economics it offered India.

If what you said below about Israel growing in power might be better benefit for India as India is betting big time on trade route through Israel.

Hamare desh ko job aur growing trade se hi matlab. Bakhi yeh UN mein voting aaj kal koi khaas value nahi rakhta unless all P5 is against you.
UN voting is just waste of time now.

UN General Secretary Gala phad phad ke with support of even many powerful countries could not bring Israel to stop a war. One tiny country kept going and even killed UN officials and still got away with it. Now whether it was because of support from US or Alien that is not the point.

Point is UN failed to do anything significant in last few decades and it is only growing weaker .
even condemning small nations are not making any difference forget about powerful countries.

Russia also doesnt have boots on the ground. Had they had Wagner group they could have kept a perimeter around the base. Russian military telegram channels said that it's impossible to protect the air base from cheap drones strapped with rpg. They need a 30 to 50km buffer surrounding the base. They also need a buffer of 80km for artillery.

Right now Russian AN124 aircraft are loading up the S300/S400 and other heavy air defenses. Some of the heavy tracked armor are making their way to the only foreign naval base of russia.

Russian aircraft carrier is also under repair, so they cannot use that.

As it stands Israel is going to occupy half of Syria and eventually annex it. While the other half will be annexed by Turkey.

ISIS and Al Qeada never attacked Israel even once, neither has Israel attacked them. Israel just started the greater Israel project right before our eyes. They have DC politicians in their pockets by decade long honey trap operations. Now without Russia no one is going to stop Israel from growing 10x in territory.
 
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Greater Israel project includes territory from Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Jordon and half of Saudi arabia. So their modus operandi will be to arm insurgency in these countries, destabilize it and then a create a buffer zone within in these new countries.
Funny how this CT still has adherents. It's also a far right pipedream.

Reality is Israel had been shrinking. Gave up the Sinai. Retreated from southern Lebanon under Barak which allowed Hezbollah to take hold. Left Gaza in 2005 which led to October 7. More recently they settled a maritime dispute with Lebanon which ceded sizable area with offshore energy potential. Why because this dumbass idea of land for peace which liberal left advocates.

Total fail in 3 out of the 4 scenarios. In fact the opposite was true. Take away what they value the most ie. land, use that for strategic depth and now they are deterred. Worked in three places ie. Golan, Gaza and Lebanon. Holding onto Sinai wasn't tenable back then due to cold war geopolitics of keeping Arabs on side. If Israel still had the Sinai, no way for Hamas to resupply as happened with Egyptian collusion because they are corrupt and minted millions betraying Camp David.

Pre 1973, Israel needed buffers as the forces against were numerous. Since then it's become less necessary. Golan however is gone for good.

No doubt there are right wingers that want to recreate a greater Israel but it isn't realistic. It's as brain dead as people saying we need to take back PO J&K. What these idiots forget is the land comes with a population that is hostile. We don't need more of that and Israel has plenty of this shit already. The joke is Israel still hasn't annexed Judea & Samaria or west bank which is their true native. Jew originally means people of Judea.

The way Israel grew in the past was by winning. Sinai & Golan heights. If there is war in the future from the countries mentioned then that is one way. I don't see it happening other than with Egypt. As the brilliant article I posted earlier predicts.
 
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What I understand is that Israel does what its best for it. It means throwing any body under the bus including the US. They do not care about any one else. Selling arms to Azberjian to slaughter christian Armenia.

There will be a war on who controls Syrian oil fields. Turkey wants them, US backed terrorists wants them and as do Israel.

If Israel gets the oil fields than they do not need the aid package that they recieve from US. Currently US supplies weapons to Israel and pays for it.

Pipe dream or not. Israel will annex Syria all the way to Damascus. I don't think they can get away with taking on Saudi Arabia but we are taking about long term project decades from now.

Low hanging fruit ares Syria and Iraq.

Yes the population will hate them but Israel can change the demographics. They have the MSM in their pocket and how long can Elon Musk platform be neutral. If Israel as any levers against Elon, he will fold. Remember he was forced to visit Israel and Poland, just because of a post on X.
 
What I understand is that Israel does what its best for it. It means throwing any body under the bus including the US. They do not care about any one else. Selling arms to Azberjian to slaughter christian Armenia.
More like the US interfering every step of the way, threatening action and witholding arms. Ontop of that American puppets in the Israeli establishment doing their best to block & overthrow the PM. Already the defense minister was fired for leaks.

Think why does Israel agree to a ceasefire with Hezbollah when Israel are winning?

Who does that. Nobody.

They were forced into by Biden-Harrris who threatened to push a ceasefire resolution through the UNSC. And those terms might not be anywhere as good.

As a dependent there is no way for Israel to throw the US under a bus. Not when they depend for basics like artillery rounds, tank rounds and basic ammo.
There will be a war on who controls Syrian oil fields. Turkey wants them, US backed terrorists wants them and as do Israel.
Really? And why has turkey not pursued this goal all these years?

Turkey first wants a buffer to keep the kurds in Turkey from interacting with their counterparts in Syria otherwise they will have a bigger separatist problem. That the US under this idiot Obama saw fit to ally with the kurds has strained relations and Turkey is supposed to be a NATO ally (!)

According to you the Kurds control the oil with US help. The map is slightly different.
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If Israel gets the oil fields than they do not need the aid package that they recieve from US. Currently US supplies weapons to Israel and pays for it.
Look at the map and tell me what an absurd idea that is. Israel for better or worse is captive to US hardware like we are stuck with Russian.
Pipe dream or not. Israel will annex Syria all the way to Damascus.
Source for this assertion?

Bibi has already clarified this. The Syrian army has abandoned its posts that face Israel so the Israelis have occupied those posts until some new agreement can be worked out.
I don't think they can get away with taking on Saudi Arabia but we are taking about long term project decades from now.
Anything can happen decades from now.

Most of us are struggling with what has happened and anxious what comes next.
Low hanging fruit ares Syria and Iraq.
Decades from now....
Yes the population will hate them but Israel can change the demographics. They have the MSM in their pocket and how long can Elon Musk platform be neutral.
How's that working out for them in Gaza & the west bank? You can say those are jew free areas. But Israel is not Arab free.

Far right says go back to Gaza. Not happening.

So to date Israel has not succeeded in changing any demographics. The very opposite result of what Pakistan did in PO J&K.

Any expansionism will be stopped in the UNSC. All US has to do is abstain. And then an arms embargo will follow.
This is the evidence you got? A patch from a soldier with far right views

Why not believe Arafat too? This is a map on an official coin.


Fooled quite a few people at the time until the mint clarified
 
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More like the US interfering every step of the way, threatening action and witholding arms. Ontop of that American puppets in the Israeli establishment doing their best to block & overthrow the PM. Already the defense minister was fired for leaks.

Think why does Israel agree to a ceasefire with Hezbollah when Israel are winning?

Who does that. Nobody.

They were forced into by Biden-Harrris who threatened to push a ceasefire resolution through the UNSC. And those terms might not be anywhere as good.
They agreed for a ceasfire because they knew Al Qaeda terrorist's where planning to attack Assad. The speed at which they went into Syria means Isreal was already prepared.
Kamala and Biden are not making the decisions, its Antony Blinken and Jake sullivan NSA for Biden. The same person who said to then Sec Hillary Clinton, that AL Qaeda was on their side in Syria. These people have lot if intelligence and this takes months to plan. So Israel knew there is something greener to get.
The Squad members in democrat party where putting a lot of pressure to withhold arms and since it was election season to appeal to the left wing voters, they where threatening to withhold ammo. Some left wing State department and pentagon employees where leaking the information of the arms consignment, so that protestors could show up.

As a dependent there is no way for Israel to throw the US under a bus. Not when they depend for basics like artillery rounds, tank rounds and basic ammo.
Israel has a history of screwing the US,
Plus one more incident that I remember but do not know the operation name.

Really? And why has turkey not pursued this goal all these years?

Turkey first wants a buffer to keep the kurds in Turkey from interacting with their counterparts in Syria otherwise they will have a bigger separatist problem. That the US under this idiot Obama saw fit to ally with the kurds has strained relations and Turkey is supposed to be a NATO ally (!)
You do not know the ambition of Erdogan, https://time.com/5885650/erdogans-ottoman-worry-world/

Erdogan uses the power he has over Russia and Nato thanks to the control of the Bosporus strait.

Turkey was buying cheap oil from ISIS right under the nose of US and Nato. Russia entered the party in 2015, their first act of air strikes was taking out ISIS oil trucks and exchange terminals. So much so that Erdogan shot down a Russian SU24 bomber when it was attacking terrorists, worse still the Turkey backed terrorists shot and killed the Co pilot of the SU24 while he was still descending down from his parachute and the body had more entry holes consistent with point blank execution. The rescue helicopter was also destroyed along with a russian marine on the ground with a US supplied TOW missile.

The amount of times Erdogan has back stabbed Russia and Syria, I have lost count.

Also various political figures in Turkey have had their eye on Syrian oil fields.
https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/12...-need-fuel-turkey-needs-to-relieve-the-burden


According to you the Kurds control the oil with US help. The map is slightly different.
All I know is US companies operate them and are protected by 800 to 1000 US personal with air support. How much is that helping Kurds or FSA/SDF etc no one knows.

Look at the map and tell me what an absurd idea that is. Israel for better or worse is captive to US hardware like we are stuck with Russian.
Some of the hardware Israel has is better then the US but yes for jets and mass produced NATO standard ammo they are dependent on the US but still they have a lot of power in DC. AIPAC candidates are mostly in US administration. Once the Epstein client list comes out and any more info on who was benefitting from it, we will get the answers.

Source for this assertion?
The video posted before.

Bibi has already clarified this. The Syrian army has abandoned its posts that face Israel so the Israelis have occupied those posts until some new agreement can be worked out.
Golam heights itself was taken as a pretext for a buffer zone and now they want a buffer zone for the buffer zone. Also who in their right mind even support ISIS and AL Qaeda. Israel even took in AL Qaeda fighters and treated them in their hospitals.

How's that working out for them in Gaza & the west bank? You can say those are jew free areas. But Israel is not Arab free.

Far right says go back to Gaza. Not happening.

So to date Israel has not succeeded in changing any demographics. The very opposite result of what Pakistan did in PO J&K.

Any expansionism will be stopped in the UNSC. All US has to do is abstain. And then an arms embargo will follow.
Israel has pushed the borders over the years and displaced people, I am waiting for what they would do with Gaza.

This is the evidence you got? A patch from a soldier with far right views
Watch the video. So far conspiracy theorists have a better track record on Nato/Israel/Ukraine, they are now just spoiler alert.
 
They agreed for a ceasfire because they knew Al Qaeda terrorist's where planning to attack Assad.
This is wrong for two reasons
1) have already posted the tweet that Israeli intel until a week back knew nothing about this and the Israeli journalist who made that tweet is quite close with the intel community
2) Israel not agreeing to a ceasefire means more pressure on hezbollah that cannot go save Assad. On this both Israel & Syrian rebels are on the same side. A ceasefire would reduce the pressure on Hezbollah.
The speed at which they went into Syria means Isreal was already prepared.
They scrambled to cover the buffer zone and the Syrian posts that were abandoned. It's just across the border and this is not an invasion force that would need advance planning.
Kamala and Biden are not making the decisions, its Antony Blinken and Jake sullivan NSA for Biden. The same person who said to then Sec Hillary Clinton, that AL Qaeda was on their side in Syria. These people have lot if intelligence and this takes months to plan. So Israel knew there is something greener to get.
I'm crediting the Turks for this move. They have boots on the ground through HTS that they fund and arm and knew there was an opportunity. They did the planning. Only a green light from Washington was needed.
Israel has a history of screwing the US,
Plus one more incident that I remember but do not know the operation name.
You're forgetting that Israel & US only became allies in the late 60s. These incidents were prior to that and Liberty incident happened under fog of six day war which the Israelis mistook for Egyptian and apologised.

Israel fought three wars successfully before the Americans became their allies. In fact the US was hostile for two wars..

Truman embargoed Israel in 1948. Eisenhower demanded Israel return the Sinai in '56 and scuttled the Anglo French war because Nasser nationalised the canal. The six day war was fought with French hardware.

He wants to defeat the west
Erdogan uses the power he has over Russia and Nato thanks to the control of the Bosporus strait.

Turkey was buying cheap oil from ISIS right under the nose of US and Nato. Russia entered the party in 2015, their first act of air strikes was taking out ISIS oil trucks and exchange terminals. So much so that Erdogan shot down a Russian SU24 bomber when it was attacking terrorists, worse still the Turkey backed terrorists shot and killed the Co pilot of the SU24 while he was still descending down from his parachute and the body had more entry holes consistent with point blank execution. The rescue helicopter was also destroyed along with a russian marine on the ground with a US supplied TOW missile.

The amount of times Erdogan has back stabbed Russia and Syria, I have lost count..
All fair points and Erdogan does have neo Ottoman ambitions. He wants to rebuild the caliphate that Ataturk dismantled.
Also various political figures in Turkey have had their eye on Syrian oil fields.
https://eadaily.com/en/news/2024/12...-need-fuel-turkey-needs-to-relieve-the-burden
What I'm reading here is Turkey would encourage HTS to go after the oil fields so Turkey does not have to supply oil to HTS. And that's fine because the oil producing areas are under Kurdish control whom Turkey sees as separatists. The map shows its not complete control though.

The tricky part is they will have to counter the US when doing so. See this tweet by Lindsay Graham

Your article says those oil fields don't produce enough anyway so the status quo will continue. Turkey will have to continue supporting HTS and the Americans will help the Kurds.
All I know is US companies operate them and are protected by 800 to 1000 US personal with air support. How much is that helping Kurds or FSA/SDF etc no one knows.
It's helping the Kurds for sure.
Some of the hardware Israel has is better then the US but yes for jets and mass produced NATO standard ammo they are dependent on the US but still they have a lot of power in DC. AIPAC candidates are mostly in US administration. Once the Epstein client list comes out and any more info on who was benefitting from it, we will get the answers.
So called lobby has done very little to safeguard jews living there.
The video posted before.
Bloody Smotrich. Should have known. If it isn't him its Ben Gvir. Both are from the religious far right.

These two don't know when to shut up and frequently the government has to explain their crap.

Yes, both are government ministers that have freedom of speech in a democracy. But we must not confuse their statements for policy. In other words they speak for themselves.

I follow videos from the far right from time to time. They bash the PM as much as the opposition does which gets tiring.

It starts off sounding reasonable and then gets crazy. Common pattern you will see with any extreme party anywhere. Best part is these fools complaining that the government isn't listening to them
Golam heights itself was taken as a pretext for a buffer zone and now they want a buffer zone for the buffer zone. Also who in their right mind even support ISIS and AL Qaeda. Israel even took in AL Qaeda fighters and treated them in their hospitals.
Golan was taken in '67 and annexed in' 82. Other than the US under Trump nobody recognises that border. Golan is to Israel what Siachen is for us. That world does not recognise is not our problem.

The buffer zone was agreed in '74 after the Yom Kippur war and this buffer would be inside Syrian territory. The agreement has held for fifty years with the Assad government.

Jabat al Nusra which the present leader of Syria started as a splinter from Al Q had Gulf support to topple Assad last time around. So expect similar help from the gulf this time too.
Israel has pushed the borders over the years and displaced people, I am waiting for what they would do with Gaza.
Only Golan. Otherwise they have retreated and paid the price. See Hezbollah after leaving Lebanon and Gaza after 2005
Watch the video. So far conspiracy theorists have a better track record on Nato/Israel/Ukraine, they are now just spoiler alert.
I would not be betting anything on what Smotrich or Ben Gvir say. They are playing to their religious far right supporters. These guys don't make policy and have the PM over a barrel because as coalition partners, if they withdraw support then government falls.
 
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Israeli tanks are now 25km away from Damascus. They have also seized control of Mount Hermon. This is nothing but a land grab. They are never going to give it back.

Israeli citizens are celebriting the capture of the mountain. Saying it will be their new ski resort.
 
Israeli tanks are now 25km away from Damascus. They have also seized control of Mount Hermon. This is nothing but a land grab. They are never going to give it back.

Israeli citizens are celebriting the capture of the mountain. Saying it will be their new ski resort.

This should explain the strategic nature of Mt. Hermon

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That's the buffer zone that Israel will occupy. Mt. Hermon falls within.

No need to go to Damascus when its within artillery range.

After the fall of Assad..


Route to Iran has become easier
 
Handing over Syria to Al-Qaida was prob a well thought out move. Pieces falling into place:


I am waiting for the day Akhundzada attacks the quad-state west of India. West Panjabi's and Sindhis will signing petitions to join the Akhand Bharat project :)
 
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