I missed this post earlier
Quoting from Wikipedia here...
In the 1920s, the British imposed restrictions on Jewish immigration to Palestine and the ability of Jews to buy land, claiming that these decisions were taken due to concerns over the economic absorptive capacity of the country. In the 1930s, British authorities set a quota for immigration certificates and authorised the Jewish Agency to hand them out at its discretion. Shortly before the outbreak of World War II, the British introduced the White Paper of 1939. The White Paper rejected the concept of partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states and announced that the country would be turned into an independent binational state with an Arab majority. It severely curtailed Jewish immigration, allowing for only 75,000 Jews to migrate to Palestine from 1940 to 1944, consisting of a yearly quota of 10,000 per year and a supplementary quota for 25,000 to cover refugee emergencies spread out over the same period. Afterward, further Jewish immigration would depend on the consent of the Arab majority. Sales of Arab land to Jews were to be restricted.
About rejection of the partition of the mandate in 1939. It already happened earlier which of course your wiki does not mention. Where do think Jordan comes from? Carved out of 75% of the mandate without any consent from the jews.
In reaction to British restrictions, illegal immigration to Palestine began. Initially, Jews entered Palestine by land, mainly by slipping across the northern border, where they were aided by the border settlements. In the early 1930s, when crossing the northern border became more difficult, other routes were found. Thousands of Jews came to Palestine on student or tourist visas, and never returned to their countries of origin. Jewish women often entered into fictitious marriages with residents of Palestine to be granted entry for family reunification purposes. In 1934, the first seaborne attempt to bring Jews to Palestine happened when some 350 Jews of the HeHalutz movement in Poland who were unwilling to wait for certificates sailed to Palestine on the Vallos, a chartered ship. Two more ships carrying illegal immigrants arrived in 1937, and several more arrived in 1938 and 1939. These voyages were mainly organised by the Revisionist Zionist Organisation and the Irgun.
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When you say the British blocked immigration to Palestine, you're not giving the entire picture, are you? It looks like the period from 1930-1940 experienced the greatest explosion in immigration of Jews, much of it illegal.
You need to see where the jews were coming from. Your wiki article makes it look like they were coming from Europe alone? Fact is jews were getting ethnically cleansed from around the arab world. Starting with Iraq in the 30s, Yemen, Libya and others. From where they had been living peacefully for centuries prior but as happens with jews over millenia, they live at the whims of the host population. All the more reason to set up your own country where you can defend yourself and be safe, one whose land you solely bear connection to for three millenia.
If you want to know more then checkout these videos. They are all legally sound.
Hugh Kitson's Whose Land? documentaries discuss who is entitled to the Land of Israel in the light of history and international law with highly distinguished...
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Private jewish initiatives to educate the public because the Israeli government stinks when it comes to hasbara. Can you believe they didn't even have a foreign language spokesperson on Oct 7. Meaning one who could speak english without that heavy Israeli accent.
Those are heavy, positively apocalyptic numbers for a country of 752k population in 1920 that can rapidly change demographics. I'm not sure how one looks at the Zionist camp and their mostly transparent goal of overrunning Palestine with Jewish migrants over the course of decades and takes a sympathetic view.
Get your facts right and its very simple. There never was a Palestine. Before the jews migrated there so late 1800s there wasn't much of a population there to begin with. All changes in the 20s where with investment the need for labour goes up and arabs from neighbouring areas move to for employment. Which then creates friction with the existing ottoman landlords.
Not sure about Israeli Arabs, but Palestinians living under occupation in Israel do not have freedom of movement.
As do Israelis in Judea & Samaria or Gaza. No jews allowed. They'd be lynched. But tens of thousands of gazans were allowed to come and work in Israel. All history now. Indians will replace those Gazans along with other Asians.
Yeah better go learn about Israeli arabs because blacks in erstwhile south africa were certainly not treated with any equality or allowed into white society.
Israeli military checkpoints heavily restrict their access to other areas and to public services. Restricting or controlling people's movement and therefore access to jobs, government services and social mobility is one of the primary ways in which apartheid works.
You don't think two intifadas had anything to do with it? The second was particularly bad where suicide bombers would show up at restaurants or public buses and cause mayhem. And now ask yourself how it was even possible for these people to reach those places at all. Because until intifada they had more freedoms which they abused as they have ever since.
Look at what they did to Jews with designated ghettos in Nazi Germany, or how South Africa used to function, or Uyghurs in China. Based on their respective track records, one might want to meet a CCP soldier before they meet an IDF soldier. Because at least the CCP don't have a record of shooting at children.
You need to learn more of the Israeli side of the story. They're the ones who had to pay in blood. They always wanted to live in peace when the other side wants them gone.
The things they're doing in the illegally occupied West Bank are even more morally repugnant.
One morning, shortly after the outbreak of hostilities in the Gaza Strip on 7 October 2023, Salem Hathaleen, 70, received unsettling news from his neighbours. The main road he used to enter and exi...
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It's not illegally occupied. The whole basis of that spurious and poltically motivated charge stems from article 49 of the geneva convention which says states may not forcibly move a population into an area.
The Israeli government has not forcibly moved any Israelis into Judea & Samaria. Settlers (which is a misnomer since its the arabs that are not native and are the settlers there) have moved there on their own will because the price was low and out of religious conviction.
Judea & Samaria are biblical Jewish lands where access is restricted to jews according to the Oslo accords that divide up the areas into three zones A, B & C. One of them the arabs have full autonomy. They have their own police and administration that they used to vote for. Was this possible in townships of South Africa. No it was not.
The next zone is mixed and the last is under Israeli control. This is the area with new jewish housing development.
Nah, you're wrong.
I'm passionate about high speed trains connecting people. Among other things. You're passionate about Israel. Probably among other things. Different strokes for different folks.
Nah I'm right. I've already discussed this high speed train story with clued up Americans a decade back that told me it would not happen anytime soon.
Because it won't be economically viable based on habitation patterns. Your passion about the topic isn't going to change ground realities.
Course stories that it will happen etc has been going on since the 90s. I lived in France where it was a thing since the 80s. I used to hear how there was this upcoming project for the french tgv in texas (of all places). Thirty years later there still isn't one.
That's a lot of links to go through. And I'm not that dedicated. I saw the first video you posted and it did not teach me anything new, in fact, it was transparently propaganda to my eyes. So I wasn't going to go through the rest, sorry.
I don't buy this lame propaganda objection. Who else then is better qualified to explain Israel's contributions than a former ambassador? That he took the trouble to make videos about them to inform the world is commendable. I certainly learnt a lot from them and will continue to use them to rebut these ignorant statements.
You just don't want to see the truth. A similar charge was made to an Israeli spokesman on tv debate recently and his quick reply was if you knew of Israel's contributions you wouldn't be saying this.
Even your points here aren't really changing my mind because when I investigate them a little further, the reality is more complicated. Even the combatants to civilian ratio, I think this is just a broadly applied statistic to hide behind and perhaps even justify more civilian deaths.
Those deaths and of Israelis forced to defend are entirely the fault of Hamas. You dont get to start a war, get your ass kicked and then play victim. Not complicated at all.
I've said earlier the casualties are a lot lower than if NATO were fighting this war. But of course the biased pro pal media twists it like everything else.
Because you have the Israelis using the equivalent of
ChatGPT to make decisions on bombing people, only spending 20 seconds evaluating each target before sentencing entire families to death. To the point that their intelligence officers wracked with guilt become whistleblowers.
“There were regulations, but they were just very lenient,” another added. “We’ve killed people with collateral damage in the high double digits, if not low triple digits. These are things that haven’t happened before.” There appears to have been significant fluctuations in the figure that military commanders would tolerate at different stages of the war.
Be careful of these so called whistleblowers. There are a number of them all funded by Qatari money to betray their people. Only requirement is to be an Israeli
And one thing I've noticed is there is no shortage of Judases. Former officers taking up partisan positions? If an indian officer did that in his pension would be under review. Academics like Ilan Pappe who exemplify what the term self hating jew means. Son of an idf general is another. It's sad. But these people are liberal so all sorts of crap is tolerated.
Do you understand now the amount of lies that is fabricated against Israel? It's a cottage industry going back half a century. Lot of it Soviet inspired because their arab clients were getting beat up by western proxy using western arms.
. Tell us about the Haiti cuisine in Springfield Ohio too.