It's time to chnage my car : what do users of Fronx, Baleno, and new swift / dzire say??

[JMak]

Doesn't the '24 Dzire have a 5-star rating, this time around?

It's actually a very enticing package, with better safety to boot.

The new-gen Dzire is a solid option overall. The 3-cylinder engine might be a letdown for some, but it offers decent low-end torque and great mileage (21–23 km/l). It’s a well-rounded package for city use. I’d recommend taking a test drive to see how it feels in real conditions.

this got my mouth watering a bit.
all seems great
Just the 3 cylinder thing I need to test..
the best thing in my ritz has been the perfect height of seating and the kick it gave in 3rd gear.. it had blown me back in the day (still does)

Appreciate both your observations...

 

[psyph3r]

The Dzire is already being offered for taxi fleets, MS backpedalled on what they said indirectly and are now offering the cheaper Tour S version.
Out of the three options I personally prefer the Fronx, it's got a more contemporary and modern design and looks pretty good from the rear in higher variants, it'll age better than the others even though it's basically a Baleno underneath.
Also check the recently launched Skoda Kylaq, it's selling well too.

 

[codwapeace]

Now a days most accidents happen not because of your mistake because of others mistake .

Doesn't everyone feel this way? All accidents happen because of someone's mistake and most people feel that they are not at fault. So, definitely a lot of them are wrong. Most accidents cannot happen because of someone else's mistake if you look at it from the perspective of everyone. Exactly 50% accidents happen due to someone else's mistake.

 

[anmolbhard004]

as you are considering dzire I suggest amaze as well do give it a try you would love it. @JMak

Doesn't everyone feel this way? All accidents happen because of someone's mistake and most people feel that they are not at fault. So, definitely a lot of them are wrong. Most accidents cannot happen because of someone else's mistake if you look at it from the perspective of everyone. Exactly 50% accidents happen due to someone else's mistake.

whats the relation of all these bs talks here in this thread???

 

[dissel]

You sure? If July is the deadline to implement BS7 norms, it could be the final nail in the coffin for many car manufacturers, given the current scenario.

In light of the Trumpian Tariff War, let's see when Euro 7 is implemented, which is set to go live in July 2025, and the day/minute it is on the GOI Transport Dept. to implement the same all over India (as per the transport minister's speech).

Also, during the same time, Delhi will get a new EV 2.0 Policy - which is by 2027 No Petrol Two-Wheeler allowed on Delhi's Road. As well as E30 Fuel introduction.

As per GOI's Petroleum Minister, India aims to achieve E85 fuel goal. This year, Delhi Auto Expo displayed a lot of E85 two-wheelers...so this is coming, and at the time of writing, the only two-wheeler with E85 capability ready to sell and reach the dealership/showroom is Honda CB300F (2.1L On-Road).

All this goes away if a serious financial disaster / recession hits the whole world as well as India due to a Trade / Tariff War.

 

[prd_407]

Rented a petrol swift in Goa for a week, found seating space to be cramped plus felt sluggish and low on power (needed to put 2nd gear on inclined bendy roads of North Goa with 3 adults + luggage)

 

[JMak]

Rented a petrol swift in Goa for a week, found seating space to be cramped plus felt sluggish and low on power (needed to put 2nd gear on inclined bendy roads of North Goa with 3 adults + luggage)

Which model was it the new 3 cylinder one or the penultimate 4 cylinder one?

 

[Heisen]

From the engine point of view, fronx and baleno will be smoother in the lower end, because they are still being offered with 4 cylinder engines, where as the new dzire and swift have 3 cylinder engines, someone correct me if I am wrong.

The moment you rev them up past 2000 RPM, both will feel the same, it's only the lower end where the difference can be felt. Not really a big issue, but I thought you should know.

Your ritz also has 4 cylinders.

 

[codwapeace]

as you are considering dzire I suggest amaze as well do give it a try you would love it. @JMak

whats the relation of all these bs talks here in this thread???

It is sad that some people think that talking about safety while buying a car is BS. I am not blaming you. I am blaming the educational system which I am a part of, where price and features are the only thing that matter and safety is BS.

The point of @captivating was quite valid. You can never be sure when you get into an accident even if you are the safest driver because you cannot control others.
I think mine was also valid because I think always putting blame on others is not beneficial. One should be careful while driving and try to learn from mistakes so that one can improve one's own driving and anticipation.

Road accidents are among the top reasons for death in India so one should always consider safety before price and, definitely, features.

 

[JMak]

From the engine point of view, fronx and baleno will be smoother in the lower end, because they are still being offered with 4 cylinder engines, where as the new dzire and swift have 3 cylinder engines, someone correct me if I am wrong.

The moment to rev them up past 2000 RPM, both will feel the same, it's only the lower end where the difference can be felt. Not really a big issue, but I thought you should know.

Your ritz also has 4 cylinders.

Yep and tbh 3 cylinder is a factor for me too..
New swift really looks awesome something you never expect from Suzuki but 3 cylinder thingy is something I am iffy about majorly

 

[vishalrao]

Wanted to add Honda Amaze to this thread - not that I have anything to say - just wanted to see what others think...

 

[Heisen]

Wanted to add Honda Amaze to this thread - not that I have anything to say - just wanted to see what others think...

The only problem I see with honda is that they don't offer their OEM parts over the counter to customers or in the open market, they force you to come to service center to fix their car.

Although you can get honda cars OEM parts in the aftermarket but they are obtained in little bit shady ways, and because of that their price is on the higher side.

In fact BMW also offers their OEM parts to aftermarket dealers, so you can get them anywhere.

Last I remember these are the companies that offer OEM parts to anyone.

• Suzuki, Tata, Mahindra, Hyundai, BMW

and these don't

• Honda, Toyota, (VW, Skoda, Audi) the complete VAG group.

rest of the the companies I don't know.

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Recently their was this India Right to Repair initiative, Indians should be able to exploit that to get their OEM parts, but this is India so I don't know.

 

[PotBelliedGarfield]

Right so, I have been putting off buying a new car out of various reasons (the real one is I am lazy).. Secondly I was not able to find any car that has the similar height as of ritz and is priced right...

As my trusted ritz would enter it's last year of life after September (it's a sep 2011 model, driver for less than 1L always got serviced at all needed from company service centers) , I thought I should start looking.

I am only willing to buy a suzuki for obvious reasons
Looking into baleno, swift and fronx,

Was wondering if people here are driving any of these.. Would appreciate a feedback if possible.

About my daily driving routine...
Daily drive of like 25km in delhi..
Occasionally once a week it can go upto 40km

I don't drive much out of the city..
May be once or twice a year to my ancestral place which is around 50km from my home

I like to zip through when I can so a bit pepper response would be great from the car.

As always I would like to keep it sanely in budget

Thanks

Baleno ground clearance is low. I would suggest Fronx.

 

[aasimenator]

About my daily driving routine...
Daily drive of like 25km in delhi..
Occasionally once a week it can go upto 40km

I don't drive much out of the city..
May be once or twice a year to my ancestral place which is around 50km from my home

I like to zip through when I can so a bit pepper response would be great from the car.

You are a perfect candidate for Electric. Look at the MG Windsor or other offerings in the EV market. EVs are great daily drivers. The looks of the Windsor are not that great, but you will warm up to it, trust me. Your other options are Tata Punch EV, Tata Tiago, etc.

As for your comment in the Ignis, my second car is an Ignis, I am 6'1", and no, it does not feel cramped. Ignis is peppy for the city, I exclusively use it for my weekly market runs, where there is limited to no parking space available; the car can squeeze into tight spots where no other car can. It is not that stable on the highways over 120 KM/h, but with a wider tire upgrade, you should be able to mitigate that as well. My Ignis gives me 17KM/l average, and that is me not driving for average. if I do drive it for average, the best I have gotten out of it was 22 KM/l and mind you, this is a pure petrol model, Zeta with AMT. I was trying to get the Fronx as well, but it is more cramped up inside due to its larger dashboard than the Ignis. And my knee would touch the dash even with the seats fully back. Fronx looks great though.

 

[KAKAN]

You are a perfect candidate for Electric. Look at the MG Windsor or other offerings in the EV market. EVs are great daily drivers. The looks of the Windsor are not that great, but you will warm up to it, trust me. Your other options are Tata Punch EV, Tata Tiago, etc.

First comment on the thread that seems reasonable for their needs ngl

And honestly, even 2nd hand EVs would be a good bet. Most EVs have over 150km range, so even a recent 2nd hand one would be fine for them. Not to mention the price would be much cheaper since resale value of EVs are pretty shit right now thanks to people's anxiety.

 

[JMak]

You are a perfect candidate for Electric. Look at the MG Windsor or other offerings in the EV market. EVs are great daily drivers. The looks of the Windsor are not that great, but you will warm up to it, trust me. Your other options are Tata Punch EV, Tata Tiago, etc.

As for your comment in the Ignis, my second car is an Ignis, I am 6'1", and no, it does not feel cramped. Ignis is peppy for the city, I exclusively use it for my weekly market runs, where there is limited to no parking space available; the car can squeeze into tight spots where no other car can. It is not that stable on the highways over 120 KM/h, but with a wider tire upgrade, you should be able to mitigate that as well. My Ignis gives me 17KM/l average, and that is me not driving for average. if I do drive it for average, the best I have gotten out of it was 22 KM/l and mind you, this is a pure petrol model, Zeta with AMT. I was trying to get the Fronx as well, but it is more cramped up inside due to its larger dashboard than the Ignis. And my knee would touch the dash even with the seats fully back. Fronx looks great though.

Nice to know your great experience with ignis..
I dunno, I am now leaning towards brezza as to me it looks a genuine upgrade.. Much pepper engine and it being a compact suv type hence the height i just what I like..
Tbh haven't been able to test drive any car due to this and that..
More will add once I am done with test drive of all the ones I am interested in plus the ignis

 

[greenhorn]

They don't make cars like they used to.
I don't think your ritz is anywhere near end of life. Give it a good set of paint, some nice alloys and stereo you should be good for another 5 years. I'm saying that as the owner of a 17 year old car

Personally I would not buy a car without structural integrity in crash ratings. The wagon r zxi and ignis are the closest to the ritz. But both have sad ratings
The Honda jazz is a nice car but Honda service - get some reviews about local options
Tata punch is the current favourite and fastest selling car in this segment, but I wouldn't recommend a tata car to anyone.
The spresso is also a fun car if you don't have much highway use

 

[altair21]

As for your comment in the Ignis, my second car is an Ignis, I am 6'1", and no, it does not feel cramped. Ignis is peppy for the city, I exclusively use it for my weekly market runs, where there is limited to no parking space available; the car can squeeze into tight spots where no other car can.

Nano is this for us, We have had that thing for over a decade but still cant replace it because no other car comes into this criteria, I was really looking forward to Comet but MG did that bullshit seat reclining to enter bullshit thats a deal breaker for us, that and the fact rear space is very less, and the ironic this is, Comet has a longer wheelbase than Nano but Nano has loads more space than Comet.