Darth Vader
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Lol....you're too sensitive and delusional to take any form of criticism let alone understanding the logic of it. And yet your only defensive strategy in the name of counter arguments is Ad hominem at best.
Karnataka to ban Astrology-based TV shows
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derp
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Darth Vader
Galvanizer
When science and its views become an alien notion/extreme to you,your logic seize to exist and you become a true hypocrite. Please attack urself.
derp
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When science and its views become an alien notion/extreme to you,your logic seize to exist and you become a true hypocrite. Please attack urself.
ROFL! Please don't insult the scientific community by posing as a science messiah and maligning their views and intent.
Science and religion go together. Scientists are humble and accommodating enough to understand and embrace views of others. I am not against science. I am against the hypocritical logic that bashes anything which is unscientific. Science and religion can and has co-existed peacefully for ages. Thanks to extremists like yourself, wrong notions of both are maligning each other. This quote perfectly explains my point
Darth Vader
Galvanizer
LOL.....Science has proved Astrology as Non-sense many times and that has sounded extreme/alien to you. That's the reason why are a true hypocrite. Science and religion co-existed peacefully perhaps in your imaginary world.
Just leaving it here:
derp
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LOL.....Science has proved Astrology as Non-sense many times and that has sounded extreme/alien to you. That's the reason why are a true hypocrite. Science and religion co-existed peacefully perhaps in your imaginary world.
Just leaving it here:
I think I was too vitriolic here. I apologize. That was a reaction and not an action. Anyways, that being said, we agree to disagree and I don't wish to post on this further. You are welcome to have your views. However, I hope you don't ever impose them on someone else.
Cheers!
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Darth Vader
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LOL...Have you ever stick to the point of topic in any threads you post ??? Any sensible argument to justify your point other than your personal attack strategy ???Quoting a fictional character really drives home your point and shows your true intellect. I would refrain from posting on this further. Don't want to spend my precious time and energy on someone who bases his views on fiction! LMAO! This is heights. You have a good day! Cheers!
I'm sure you'll ignore everything that has logic...but still leaving it here.
derp
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Have changed my statements. Kindly see the edited post. Thanks![DOUBLEPOST=1449937915][/DOUBLEPOST]
Have changed my statements. Kindly see the edited post. Thanks!
Darth Vader
Galvanizer
I'm against BAN itself, Read my post in the context of banning astrology because it appears as a business of cheating by other forum member.
you can sell your poop, as long as you don't force someone to buy it. Astrology products no one is forcing you to buy, that's a part of your rights as citizen.
Gothra has to do with Lineage, not like Caste and Varna system which person wears on his sleevs, it is not used to discriminate lower castes (off course there will be instances people misusing the system). Actually it is the other communities like Kshatriyas & Vaishyas follow Gothra much more rigorously than Brahmins. Person with the same gothra is considered a brother or sister, so marrying in the same gothra is considered a sin. They (Our ancestors) didn't have a much understanding of diseases during those days, their observations of marrying in the same lineage leading to increased incidence of gentic disordes (basically premature death of offsprings ) would have made them to conclude it. There will be many scientific explanations for so called blind faiths if you are keen enough to understand.
Personalized medicine is the next big revolution in medicine, that is basically matching your disease probability, and treatment to your genetic configuration.
https://newsinhealth.nih.gov/issue/dec2013/feature1
Yes I'm a atheist, Hinduism is the only religion where non believers co-exist in the same religion. Even though you don't believe in the Gods of Hinduism ; you can still be a Hindu. It is a way of life that's it. There's (Hindu God Non Believer) Maharishi in Hinduism by name 'Charuvaka' equally respected as much as other great Maharishis as Agasthya, Vishwamitra etc . This is the lack of knowledge (the lack of knowledge of the fact that I don't know many things) what I'm talking about.
I wanted to teach my daughter numbers 21 to 100, where as she was taught only upto 20 in her KG. She is unable to understand 21 , no matter how much ever I try, she is telling, her Mam hasn't taught her 21; so it doesn't exist. How to teach that 21 exists when somebody firmly believes that 20 is the max number & their knowledge on this topic is absolute & final? disregard anyone who talks about 21 ? I'm actually getting the same feeling now.
I should refrain posting in this topic until Rahul G becomes PM (pun Intended).
Gladly let's agree to Disagree.
Let's continue with the state govt policy, ban Astrology; until some Westerner researches on this topic and comes with Patented technology on our ancient science; enlightens us & sells us his version of Indian Astrology products. Similar to Yoga being accepted by west, and coming back to Indians for universal acceptance.
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zibalingz
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Wasn't astrology based on the 12 constellations visible in the night sky? the map of the stars, long ago ( thousands of years ) there were 13 constellations but the stars have long moved , so we are left with 12, and in the distant future that number will keep going down, i suppose astronomers will make new constellations but they don't use them to navigate the seas anymore (we have GPS for that) now they use them as a guide to send space probes to the outer planets in the solar system.
It's funny how these pseudoscience folk have been fooling the masses for centuries, it's a complete joke.
It's funny how these pseudoscience folk have been fooling the masses for centuries, it's a complete joke.
Darth Vader
Galvanizer
Your argument is as vague as the religion itself with no significance. Again "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"
And my Poop example is to explain the placebo effect only.
We should not BAN this because it is their personal belief too:
https://in.news.yahoo.com/disturbing-footage-of-toddler-being-used-as-faith-healer-074055127.html
But yes, we can agree to disagree. I'm done here. Thank you
Party Monger
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How is this against freedom of anything? Then you'll say shrinks should be given license to practice medicine and let people decide? Bans are okay as long as they are progressive. You can not educate a person enough to make him feel completely secure with himself and not fall prey to such stupidity. As long as you let a person preach something without there being scientific background to it and without ethics and regulations governing them, they will always exploit people. You aren't banning Astrology, you are stopping people from getting exploited.
Also, check the literacy rate in india, how long till we can achieve 100%? Just let people fall for them till then?
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Some one else mentioned Cosmetics? How is it useless? Say lipstick for example. Its supposed to change the colour of your lips, and it does. Does astrology deliver? That is the basic difference.
Lastly for all the saintly purpose of Astrology, its 90% use is by disguised thugs who want to swindle people off their money. There are some insane stories of how they are just con artists. Perhaps look a bit and find out. Its insane how you guys try to defend such bullshit. Hinduism is a progressive religion. Even RSS is more progressive than some of you guys as it also believes some practices need to be stopped.
Hello TechEnclave .
As you must know neuro-psychic-healing is the basis for the science of homeopathy and placebo effect as written in the vedas.
According to an almost scientific'ish study by whataspp users, 2% of our population are truly aware of their abilities. We have already identified over 1000 suicidal farmers who have shown SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN healing effects of neuro-psychic-healing. Its time everyone knows about this and becomes aware.
Now we are trying to start a TV show to show the benefits of neuro-psychic-healing and spread more knowledge and awareness about the same, so that more people can identify their inner neuro-psychic-healing ability. But some corrupt atheists in the TV ministry are not allowing us the freedom of expression and independence of thought!! Here is where we need your support!
Please support us by sending messages to your local MLA's to allow us to start this TV show.
Thanks
and may the neuro-psychic-healing force be with you!
As you must know neuro-psychic-healing is the basis for the science of homeopathy and placebo effect as written in the vedas.
According to an almost scientific'ish study by whataspp users, 2% of our population are truly aware of their abilities. We have already identified over 1000 suicidal farmers who have shown SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN healing effects of neuro-psychic-healing. Its time everyone knows about this and becomes aware.
Now we are trying to start a TV show to show the benefits of neuro-psychic-healing and spread more knowledge and awareness about the same, so that more people can identify their inner neuro-psychic-healing ability. But some corrupt atheists in the TV ministry are not allowing us the freedom of expression and independence of thought!! Here is where we need your support!
Please support us by sending messages to your local MLA's to allow us to start this TV show.
Thanks
and may the neuro-psychic-healing force be with you!
derp
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Hello TechEnclave .
As you must know neuro-psychic-healing is the basis for the science of homeopathy and placebo effect as written in the vedas.
According to an almost scientific'ish study by whataspp users, 2% of our population are truly aware of their abilities. We have already identified over 1000 suicidal farmers who have shown SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN healing effects of neuro-psychic-healing. Its time everyone knows about this and becomes aware.
Now we are trying to start a TV show to show the benefits of neuro-psychic-healing and spread more knowledge and awareness about the same, so that more people can identify their inner neuro-psychic-healing ability. But some corrupt atheists in the TV ministry are not allowing us the freedom of expression and independence of thought!! Here is where we need your support!
Please support us by sending messages to your local MLA's to allow us to start this TV show.
Thanks
and may the neuro-psychic-healing force be with you!
Some people (religious ones) believe in witchcraft and voodoo too. Then there are those that believe that offering a human sacrifice (especially a child) would help uncover hidden treasures in their lands (there are thousands of cases of sacrifices). Should the police "respect" their religious beliefs as this kind of superstition is also integral to their belief system?
You want to let beef be banned because it "hurts" (ouch ouch) the religious sentiments of one group and you don't want bullshit like this to be banned because there are people who believe in it and their religious sentiments would again get hurt. If religious sentiments are so important, Tell me one reason why all idol worship in the country should not be banned because it hurts the sentiments of the Muslims and Christians? Tell me why meat should not be banned altogether because it hurts the sentiments of the Jains. Tell me why plant based food should not be banned because it there are people who worship plants. Where does it start and stop? Do you think belief of only one religious sect matters otherwise?
There are things that doesn't need to be banned and there are things that can or need to be banned. Beef does not need to be banned for the religious sentiments of Hindus because nobody is forcing Hindus to eat beef (which btw, note that Hindus consume more beef than Muslims or Christians). Idol worship does not need to be banned because nobody is forcing Muslims or Christians to do the same. People who want to impose these things are just trying to meddle with the personal life of others.
Even, Astrology and that Rudraksha nonsense does not need to be banned totally. Let people who want to believe keep believing in them at their own cost. But it sure as hell can be banned on TV. TV is a media that is consumed by a lot of people, people who no not necessarily subscribe to such nonsense.
Why is swearing and obscene content not allowed on TV? Because there are people of various types, age groups watching TV and such content may not be suitable for everyone. It may still be allowed on dedicated channels or selective timings.
Why is false advertising stopped? Because it misleads people.
Astrology and things like that falls under the same category as the above things and can be banned on TV. Same goes for the christian faith healing nonsense shown on some channels. i have't come across any Muslim equivalent of it, but if it does, applies for that too. There is no need for such content to be there on TV.
Also just to add, One of the fundamental duties of an Indian citizen as written in the constitution states
Being superstitious or promoting superstition technically qualifies a person to be called traitorous by virtue of not doing their fundamental duties towards the country.
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