kashmir's current problem -clashes between Moslems and minority Hindus

[cool_cat]

I repeat, in the last two weeks in Kashmir, 31 living souls - young men, having desires and aspirations, plans and ambitions - have been inhumanely killed! But nobody seems to be bothered. Our highway has been blocked for the past 40 days. Our hospitals are running short of essential drugs. Our trade is choked ..blah..blah..

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From the inside of Kashmir : Basim

Now this is a blog post by some bassim from kashmir.He is talking about killings of his brethren.
the fact , I understand is ,that these kashmiri moslems are treating India and fellow indians esp Hindus as some animals.I am sorry to say that !

why did they ,kashmiri's(muslims) dont have a mind of a human? why they forgot ethnic cleansing of kashmiri pundits ,sikhs?
below comment for Bassim's post is sensible:

What double standards? Where was your humanity when you were dragging Kashmiri Hindus out of their homes in 1990’s and use them as shields for your protests, in case of any causality, where was your humanity when you were hanging Kashmiri Hindus upside down on the trees and let the dead bodies there to stink, where was your humanity when you would decide to barge into any Kashmiri Hindu’s homes at your will and pick anyone--gouge their eye’s, slit their throats, suck their blood and throw the “Indian Dogs†in front of their families and ask them to cry for them. Where was your humanity when you would ask Kashmiri men to leave Kashmir and keep their women for you. All this was unprovoked against those peace-loving humans who used to give education to you illiterates there. And you (media included) still shamelessly continue to cover up the well thought ethnic cleansing and exodus of Kashmiri Hindus in the name of Jagmohan. Mind you he is the person who served Kashmir more than your own so called leaders�\"he gave you roads, he gave you transparent govt,he gave you jobs, he donated whole of his salary for your welfare----but then you are ungrateful. You had to change the demography there, so you did. Now face it.

Coming back to the recent crisis who started it all---you yourself. If you are crying for common people who don’t care for all this politics, why bother just for a piece of land, which would have been used just for a month and that too at a place, which does not have any habitation. What is your business to stop such things when it is happening in the Indian land? Now that you chose to do it,you will suffer too. You can’t have the cake and eat it too.If you want “Azadi†make the sacrifices and don’t beg for things. If you don’t like India leave it and save yourself and us.
You want to start all violence, go for a run and rest of the country should meekly watch you holding us for a ransom. The very fact you had to protest against anything and this time round against Jammu agitation is a clear indication to you people,don’t try your usual stunts anymore.
Anyways you will have to bear the fruits of your own “karmaâ€.You killed innocents and you will have to bear your own “Allah’s†will,in whose name you want to creat “Nizam-e-Mustafaâ€there. SO STOP CRYING AND BEGGING and decide what you want, if you want peace live peacefully and people will let you in peace too.If you want violence you are getting it back by your cycle of karma so accept it.

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I think there is absolutely no problem in giving land to amarnath temple .but this damn hardcorer's are much into religious teachings that ,they want to kill every non-muslims.

while in most other parts ,esp south india moslems are living peacefully.only when this studying that "book" deeply creates problem.these hardcorer moslems want to implement everything written in koran. but I am sorry ,but dear kashmiri moslem - you are the sole reason of the problems in kashmir.you remembers us about the barbarian taaliban.I still remember their cutting the throat of a poor man chanting "allah will be pleased" .I feel sorry -but to say that Islamism(not religion) is 10million crore times destructive than what hitler's narzism did.

Get a life! go out talk with and touch your hindu/christian brethrens.they too are humans ,unlike what you hardcorers are taught by the fanatic.

Just flow your thinkings here. I hope this is not an explosive topic.

 

[linuxtechie]

Whats the point?

~LT

 

[cool_cat]

when some forest land supposed to be given to Amarnath temple ,these religious fanatics panicked the state.and due in the clash ,some 31 were killed.

but our dear blogger in the OP was crying for them ,forgetting ,these radical kashmiri moslem men who want to mix religion with politics ,which created the whole problem of what kashmir is currently facing .not to say seperatism. also remember the violent bloodshed of poor kashmiri pundita's.

see the real picture of what hypocrite kashmiri wants:

Basim,
I am truly confused by what the avg kashmiri really wants. He/she is perenially disgruntled.Over what?? Not sure. Let me try to break it down. Your rant starts off with big words "secularism", "human rights" etc but ends up talking about this only for a specific portion of the population.

To me, from the outside, what I have seen over the past 20 yrs is, the avg kashmiri
1) wants more than what Article 370 offers already. They will happily buy land etc in rest of india but will not allow anyone else. If any woman of the J,K marries an Indian who is not a citizen of J&K, she loses her state subject status and their children lose the right to admission in any state run/ aided college. Still NOT HAPPY.

2) Will happily use the hajj special privileges on offer but will not allow a portion of land to be used as lodges for hindu pilgrims. STILL NOT HAPPY.

3) Will blather on about KASHMIRIYAT, but will claim that Pandits left voluntarily to live in run down camps for 20 yrs leaving behind their homes. Oh wait, they are NOT MUSLIMS. Maybe kashmiriyat== muslim

4) Will conveniently ignore that the biggest exporters of Islamic terrorism from the UK are the Mirpuri Kashmiris. India is a BAD country but what about the UK?

5) forgets that it is J,K AND L and not always about about what the Muslim Kashmiri wants. Maybe the economic blockade is atleast partly result of 20 yrs' of anger from ppl of Jammu culminating with the Amarnath humiliation?

6) Wants Azaadi. Did he/she ask the ppl of J AND L what they want? I don't see the ppl of L complaining or J complaining. Maybe it is a ISLAMIC country that the avg kashmiri really wants.

7)Also, what does azaadi mean...to shrillest and most violent ones (Syed Geelani, Syed Salahuddin,Dukhtaran-i-millat...) it is to join Pakistan in a utopia of islamic orgy.

So, what do you really really want? Surely not pakistan offers you today. Take a look to your west to the chaos and economic progress there.

cheers,
-murali

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^ another nice reply quoting the reailities ,unlike those crappy media out there

 

[cricfan]

point is ....our mainstream pseudo-secular media is not commenting on both sides of the story.internet allows us to see both sides of the issue...Indian history in our books has to b one of the most edited ever.....to make it politically correct..

 

[cricfan]

when some forest land supposed to be given to Amarnath temple ,these religious fanatics panicked the state.and due in the clash ,some 31 were killed.

but our dear blogger in the OP was crying for them ,forgetting ,these radical kashmiri moslem men who want to mix religion with politics ,which created the whole problem of what kashmir is currently facing .not to say seperatism. also remember the violent bloodshed of poor kashmiri pundita's.

there was not much coverage when those hindu fishermen in kerala were hacked to death...this media is sickening..India needs a slightly right wing media like FOX News....to bring some order..

 

[cool_cat]

^YUP.it happened in maarad in calicut. why? Is Hindus or say non-muslims are something like bakra?

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Now ,read below para from wikipedia.and think if this been happening to us? Shari-ath based law that these ppl want to force ! They want to make "Dar-ul-darf" to "Dar-ul-salaam" by bloodshed

As per the statement of US Congressman Joe Wilson, beginning in 1989, mosques in Kashmir declared jihad and blared warnings from loudspeakers to the Hindus that they were infidels and had to leave Kashmir. He further says that "From 1989-1990, Islamists began a terror campaign to drive Hindus from Kashmir"7. Some people have noted that some Kashmiri Muslims were tolerant of minorities, but since partition, most Kashmiri Muslims have adopted a more conservative approach to Islam, and since 1989, a more militant and fundamentalist approach. By the turn of the last century, only 6.4% of Kashmiris were Hindus10. The US Department of State reports that, according to the Indian National Human Rights Commission, the Kashmiri Pandit population in Jammu and Kashmir dropped from 15 percent in 1941 to 0.1 percent as of 2006.11 This claim is however contradicted by official census reports. According to the 1901 census, "In the Kashmir province they [Hindus] represent only 524 in every 10,000 of population [or 5.24%]..."[1] while the 1941 census estimated the Hindu population of the Kashmir valley to be 4%.[2]

Kashmiri Pandit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[linuxtechie]

I would still say: What's the point?

~LT

 

[cool_cat]

what is the point when you read violin when your house is burning?

I think from your avatar ,you are from punjab? still I am old enough to remember the killings and clashes between Khalistan vaadi's and central gov.now Punjab is progressing as one of the best state in India.

but our poor kashmiri's...they want to drink religion

if you dont want to understand the problems and feels as a kid ,go.

Now..now something Mr.Modi has done in Gujarat and why...I understood.

Live and Let Live.

 

[smoky004]

point is ....our mainstream pseudo-secular media is not commenting on both sides of the story.internet allows us to see both sides of the issue...Indian history in our has to b one of the most edited ever.....to make it politically correct..

Well said. i fully agree with you.

 

[Darthcoder]

This will happen till the Minority becomes majority and the majority becomes minority while the media keeps bashing the hindus and keeps on toeing the "secularism" line. This country has no future. Flee from here, save your a$$e$ atleast!!!

 

[SidhuScorpion]

March 2000, 35 Sikhs were killed by unidentified gunmen on the eve of then US President Bill Clinton's trip to India.

Chithi Singhpora is situated in the militant-infested Shangus belt of Anantnag district. According to residents, this is the largest Sikh population village in south Kashmir and none of the 1500 Sikhs or 200 Muslims had ever got killed here in the 12-year-long militancy.

Dont point fingers @ other countries, religions. Indian politics is culprit for it.

 

[guru]

I would still say: What's the point?

~LT

stop playing dumb.

This is exactly the problem with Hindus they play dumb... push their heads in Sand and pretend not to see evil. Muslims majority have ethnically cleansed Minority Hindus and Sikhs from Kashmir. This is fact. whether you like it or not. If Hindus are decimated in their own country and then my community has no chance. i hope i can get out by then.

anyway, this failure to fight fascism in the name of religion is fatal mistake. just ask the jews.