Market Section - Product Pricing n Discussions [NO Price checks]
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buzz88
Forerunner
For anyone actually able to use Marketplace, this price was corrected on the thread. Updated price is 8K.
Would you be able to share that seller details with me, I'm looking forward for these too.
Pyception
Forerunner
I can't hold myself after seeing some classified today on this forum and OP was refusing all the suggestions from members.
speccy48
Beginner
Hi. The bulging in the KB has happened due to not fitting the iPad into it or it happened in spite of iPad being housed into it??
rsaeon
Innovator
@Dark Star
If you want a fair price, choose something around 75% of purchase price and lower it by 1k or so every week until it's sold.
If you want it gone quickly, start at 50% of purchase price.
The threshold of where the mob stops beating you up and starts accepting you varies on who's online, what we've had for dinner and how recently our spouses made love to us.
It cannot be predicted.
If you want a fair price, choose something around 75% of purchase price and lower it by 1k or so every week until it's sold.
If you want it gone quickly, start at 50% of purchase price.
The threshold of where the mob stops beating you up and starts accepting you varies on who's online, what we've had for dinner and how recently our spouses made love to us.
It cannot be predicted.
What @rsaeon is helpful to come to a decent offer to sell here.
One advice I can give is after certain level where you feel it's might be better to just keep and use it then don't drop price anymore.
Also sometimes ...I would say 3 out of 10 times. OlX gives good offers.
So try olx too.
rsaeon
Innovator
The marketplace is probably the most heavily moderated section of the forum. There's just way too much activity for a back-and-forth. By the time you respond to a mod, they probably have already forgotten what the issue was.
It's just simpler to lock/delete a thread for the member to repost. This zero tolerance policy is also because the marketplace place is restricted for new members — older members must know what rules need to be followed.
That said, nearly everyone here has had a thread locked/deleted. It's not anything personal, it just keeps the forum functioning smoothly.
The surprising part is that you got a notification, that's not usually the case — rule violations end up with the thread locked/deleted without any notiifcation or explanation. I'm guessing older accounts like yours are given that courtesy.
samiryadav
Galvanizer
I know, it is not personal.
Suggestions and feedbacks makes things better.
Editing a thread by a mod also takes time, instead they can make a feature to hide the Thread instead of deleting it.OR give a timeline to fix the issue.
The Notification to Thread OP and a point of contact can help Both sort the issue in a smooth way.
What if same person keeps Posting same thread unaware of his mistake.YOU GET MY POINT?
it is all about communication, suggestions and feeddback.
That is what i was giving.
rsaeon
Innovator
Usually, the second offense results in a ban because the rules are stickied right on top of the marketplace section.
The mods here volunteer their time. They have families, jobs, other stuff happening outside of this forum. So they just pop in, do their moderating, and pop back out. This happens about once a day, sometimes once in two days. Would you want to wait two days to get your post made visible again? Making a new thread is just faster.
Maybe if every membership was paid, the policies would shift in favor of the general population but as it is, all of the rules exist to prioritize moderating without complications.
It is kind of jarring because most other communities do not operate like this, but that's how things are here and it appears to be accepted or at the very least, it's keeping this forum online with minimal administration.
samiryadav
Galvanizer
Again the same issue.... does banning someone solves the issue??
We should focus on core issue how to streamline the process.
Making a new thread may seem faster but, , but the problem remains... A new Thread with SAME OLD PROBLEM....
Again the mod will have to engage in it , either editing it or deleting it and wasting his precious time.
yes we can silently accept the ongoing norm and do nothing or we can try to better the situation.
i am the latter who prefers to do something about the issues.
so, by reaching out to mods and provide feedback we can better the community.
PUN:- BAN ALL 10 years DEISEL and 15 YEARS OLD PETROL vehicles as they are the cause of the Pollution in Delhi NCR.
You have point but again what @rsaeon said rules are stickied there and one being an older member must know about the rules is what everyone wud think of and if one knows there thread was locked or deleted one should get in touch with a mod or read the rules again to get one self accustomed with new rules if any updated and not make a new thread in a haste.Again the same issue.... does banning someone solves the issue??
We should focus on core issue how to streamline the process.
Making a new thread may seem faster but, , but the problem remains... A new Thread with SAME OLD PROBLEM....
Again the mod will have to engage in it , either editing it or deleting it and wasting his precious time.
yes we can silently accept the ongoing norm and do nothing or we can try to better the situation.
i am the latter who prefers to do something about the issues.
so, by reaching out to mods and provide feedback we can better the community.
PUN:- BAN ALL 10 years DEISEL and 15 YEARS OLD PETROL vehicles as they are the cause of the Pollution in Delhi NCR.
samiryadav
Galvanizer
Do you remember all the rules?
We should not assume anything.Also rules can be amended if it benifits all.
No Doubt.
But, The Listing a new thread also shows the ITEM CONDOITION to be SELECT AS PACKED BRAND NEW.
Why will i suspect that it is not allowed???
If we can implement the same in the thread Template itself, these mistakes can be avoided.
If we can make other provisions that can guides the thread OP to correct his thread without much intervention, it will benifit all.
a mod deleting a Sealed product listing everytime because it is written in the RULES Vs Template Showing that Sealed product Not allowed ,
Which one do you think is most likely people going to see?
Do you read all the terms and conditions?
OR
the Quick Manual / MITC ?
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rsaeon
Innovator
You're bringing logic in an area where nuance holds more weight. Everything you've said is valid, however none of it is actually applicable.
The nuances:
This forum, along with team-bhp, are probably the oldest in India at around two decades old. The people that were here in the beginning are probably grandparents by now.
What this means is that it isn't a new place where things are still being established. Everything is already in place and has been in place for a long time.
The focus of the admins/mods now, at this point in their life, is to keep the forum active with the least amount of time spent and effort exerted.
There are military references throughout the forum, almost as if the owners/founders were ex-Army. An extension of this is the zero tolerance towards rule violations.
OT but related: Just the other day, I witnessed a zero tolerance policy being enforced in an another community. Cars 'n' Coffee Hyderabad organized a Vintage Car Show for the general public. However, members who revv'ed up their engines outside the venue (thereby disturbing the public on a Sunday morning) were expelled from the group without warning. A vendor/startup that setup a stall without prior permission were similarly expelled even after an unconditional apology (entry is free so expenses are paid by the sponsors/vendors).
Even more OT: Back in school, my classmate had to repeat an entire year of school because he was less than five minutes late to the exam center. An entire year! He's now earning 36LPA but laments that he's been robbed of 36L just because he was not disciplined in his younger years. Of course I take the opportunity to tell him basically that he robbed himself of 36L ("you are your own enemy") and then he's in a sour mood for the rest of the day so I need to buy him an ice cream otherwise he carries that sour mood home to his wife and kids.
Many times, life doesn't give you second chances and ignorance of the rules isn't a valid excuse.
Anyway, it could be argued the 'Packed Brand New' doesn't implicitly imply it is sealed, just that everything is packed as if it's brand new.
But that's still a nuance superseded by the rules thread, which is titled:
that had been amended with:
I mean, if someone is admitting to not reading the rules, then yeah, they would probably end up being banned.
To flippantly answer your questions (because it's fun/funny):
Yes, otherwise you'd end up banned.
Because you're supposed to read the rules.
Irrelevant since the marketplace is closed for new members, so only those who are familiar with the rules have access. And if they forget or don't remember, they end up banned and/or have their thread deleted.
That is a good idea, but I don't even remember what I coded last week. It's likely whoever set up the template has completely forgotten how to do it. But it doesn't matter since you're supposed to read the rules.
If someone can't read the rules, the forum is better off without them, ha. On a more serious note, they're trying to minimize the administration overhead, so yes, a ban helps keep the forum running smoothly.
Maybe it's more easy to digest if you don't think of it as democracy, but more of a benevolent authoritarian regime. And think of a ban as a slap on the wrist — most bans are temporary anyway.
Note: I have no vested interest in this forum, I'm just happy to be a member here. I probably should spend more time looking after the cats that have adopted me though.
The nuances:
This forum, along with team-bhp, are probably the oldest in India at around two decades old. The people that were here in the beginning are probably grandparents by now.
What this means is that it isn't a new place where things are still being established. Everything is already in place and has been in place for a long time.
The focus of the admins/mods now, at this point in their life, is to keep the forum active with the least amount of time spent and effort exerted.
There are military references throughout the forum, almost as if the owners/founders were ex-Army. An extension of this is the zero tolerance towards rule violations.
OT but related: Just the other day, I witnessed a zero tolerance policy being enforced in an another community. Cars 'n' Coffee Hyderabad organized a Vintage Car Show for the general public. However, members who revv'ed up their engines outside the venue (thereby disturbing the public on a Sunday morning) were expelled from the group without warning. A vendor/startup that setup a stall without prior permission were similarly expelled even after an unconditional apology (entry is free so expenses are paid by the sponsors/vendors).
Even more OT: Back in school, my classmate had to repeat an entire year of school because he was less than five minutes late to the exam center. An entire year! He's now earning 36LPA but laments that he's been robbed of 36L just because he was not disciplined in his younger years. Of course I take the opportunity to tell him basically that he robbed himself of 36L ("you are your own enemy") and then he's in a sour mood for the rest of the day so I need to buy him an ice cream otherwise he carries that sour mood home to his wife and kids.
Many times, life doesn't give you second chances and ignorance of the rules isn't a valid excuse.
Anyway, it could be argued the 'Packed Brand New' doesn't implicitly imply it is sealed, just that everything is packed as if it's brand new.
But that's still a nuance superseded by the rules thread, which is titled:
that had been amended with:
I mean, if someone is admitting to not reading the rules, then yeah, they would probably end up being banned.
To flippantly answer your questions (because it's fun/funny):
Yes, otherwise you'd end up banned.
Because you're supposed to read the rules.
Irrelevant since the marketplace is closed for new members, so only those who are familiar with the rules have access. And if they forget or don't remember, they end up banned and/or have their thread deleted.
That is a good idea, but I don't even remember what I coded last week. It's likely whoever set up the template has completely forgotten how to do it. But it doesn't matter since you're supposed to read the rules.
If someone can't read the rules, the forum is better off without them, ha. On a more serious note, they're trying to minimize the administration overhead, so yes, a ban helps keep the forum running smoothly.
Maybe it's more easy to digest if you don't think of it as democracy, but more of a benevolent authoritarian regime. And think of a ban as a slap on the wrist — most bans are temporary anyway.
Note: I have no vested interest in this forum, I'm just happy to be a member here. I probably should spend more time looking after the cats that have adopted me though.
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You had all the time in the world to go through the rules before posting the thread. If you can't take 5 mins to look at a pinned thread, why should mods waste their time coaching you through every single rule?
Precisely. The sealed item rule was implemented to benefit all. No need to remember all the rules, just give it a glance before posting.