MH-BJP Govt dictate : Marathi movies on prime time :P

[Being.smart]

In a controversial move, the Bharatiya Janata Party-Shiv Sena government in Maharashtra is set to enact a law to make it mandatory for multiplexes in the state to screen Marathi movies during prime time slots.

Hope , they don't pass law making compulsory to wear pajama-kurta and khaki topi (marathi style) in public places

 

[prabs]

Source? Also it won't happen and if it does happen I wouldn't care. The censorship in movies these days in theaters or television warrants downloading and re-watching the movie again anyway.

 

[Superbad]

Hope , they don't pass law making compulsory to wear pajama-kurta and khaki topi (marathi style) in public places

they are making it compulsory to have atleast one screen reserved for marathi films during the prime time slots. (multiplexes have around 5 to 6 screens)
which i think is pretty fair.

 

[ashishsahu]

The censorship in movies these days in theaters or television warrants downloading and re-watching the movie again anyway

so true. since many years i have almost stopped watching english movies in theaters

 

[Lord Nemesis]

Source? Also it won't happen and if it does happen I wouldn't care. The censorship in movies these days in theaters or television warrants downloading and re-watching the movie again anyway.

Maharashtra already has some existing laws and some pending proposals related to Marathi movies. The Govt is just amending those and making them into the law.

 

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they are making it compulsory to have atleast one screen reserved for marathi films during the prime time slots. (multiplexes have around 5 to 6 screens)
which i think is pretty fair.

What happens to single screen theatres ?

there is nothing fair about this, BJP is trying to consolidate its rule in Maha. BJP is an outsider in Maha with an ally that isn't reliable.

 

[Superbad]

What happens to single screen theatres ?

there is nothing fair about this, BJP is trying to consolidate its rule in Maha. BJP is an outsider in Maha with an ally that isn't reliable.

single screen theatres do screen marathi films.
it was the multiplexes , who were given tax benefits by the Govt. to screen marathi movies.
the multiplexes chose odd and unreasonable timings to screen them rendering the screening useless.
it has been a long standing demand for marathi film industry and public for multiplexes to screen marathi movies along with the hindi movies at manageable timings.

 

[superczar]

it has been a long standing demand for marathi film industry and public for multiplexes to screen marathi movies along with the hindi movies at manageable timings.

Should multiplexes in Patna be mandated to run Bhojpuri movies?
If multiplexes would make money by screening marathi movies, they would do so without any government diktats

What is worrying about BJP Govts, the MH one in particular is an increasing tendency to interfere in areas a democratic government has no business being in..

 

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single screen theatres do screen marathi films.
it was the multiplexes , who were given tax benefits by the Govt. to screen marathi movies.

ask yourself why incentives are being provided.

the multiplexes chose odd and unreasonable timings to screen them rendering the screening useless.

No, if they were profitable they would screen them but there is more demand for other movies. I don't they think are avoiding screening marathi movies but trying to maximise profits based on screenings.

it has been a long standing demand for marathi film industry and public for multiplexes to screen marathi movies along with the hindi movies at manageable timings.

and that is using legislation to interfere in the market.

look, this is bjp trying to secure its shaky hold. that is all. taking away arguments from their opponents. so they can get on with real work.

 

[onlyravi]

The media has twisted this thing way out of proportion and context. The rule already existed to screen atleast 1 Marathi movie in MP but the MP owners kind of cheated by showing these movies at off times like 8am or in the noon on work days when there is very less public. All the CM did was changed the rule to exhibit the Marathi movie in prime time. And mind you its still a single movie/single prime time show. Not all shows in a cinema hall like the media was claiming yday.
The bollywood movie distributor model has changed a lot recently and if one has observed its more like a corporate. They pressurize MP owners to commit to a high no of shows in the first 2 weeks and only then they will get the print. Also the MP owners have to buy the print at such high rates they tend to run it for maximun shows in the first 2 weeks to recover as much as they can.
And why all this hulla hooh now... Even bengal/UP and other states have such rules or other policy which give direct benefit to local cinemas.

Marathi movie industry has to share space and facilities with Bollywood so its very tough for them to make movies in Maharashtra since logistics/equipment is expensive coz of bollywood.
Also they have to share the same studios. There are 1000s of TV shows shot in Mumbai not in bhillai or chappra....
so the bhojpuri or other film industries dont face these issues.
Its also unfair to give tax benefit to every Marathi movie as that will not encourage ppl to make good cinemas it will only make them produce marathi cinema in bulk without any quality.
Marathi films makers cannot afford to pay as much as Hindi main stream movies.
Recently there has been an increase in good quality and commercial Marathi movies. This is the best time for the Govt to come forward and give this industry a much needed boost.
This all sounds very logical to me since I stay in Pune. Even if I dont watch more than 2 Marathi movies a year in cinema halls I very much appreciate and welcome this move by the MH Govt.

 

[onlyravi]

And what percentage that one screening at prime time is of the total screened shows does anyone have any idea?????
Please use some logic before coming all down attacking the MH Govt for nothing.
A mental torture movie like Kites/ Dhoom3 or Kick / Jai Ho / many recent ones earn 100s of crores in a week. how is that possible? coz the no of shows being screened.
Its so overwhelming that even at 25% occupancy on average they earn 100CR easily.
And also look at the shelf life of movies today. Its less than 2 weeks. Within a month that movie is available on VOD and DTH.

There is a another way of looking at the issues I listed above. If Mumbai is mostly used by hindi film industry and TV industry and the state govt is also earning more local tax from them. That money can be diverted as subsidy or some other form to Marathi cinema but again it will be misused more instead of the deserving people getting those benefits.
Instead after this diktat when MP owners see profit in running a Marathi movie they will increase the shows else they will change the movie. There are good no of Marathi movies being released now a days.
The focus point of the problem is due to the business model of bollywood distributors its impossible for MP owners to screen other movies to their liking. So eventually the viewer is deprived of option and has to settle what is available at that time. Instead if the viewer gets more Marathi options I know localities they will definitely go to watch more movies. The Marathi class is earning well now and does not hesitate to spend for watching a good Marathi movie even in MP at prime rates.
Till now the new marathi movies were out on DVDs in less than a month. So where they could have earned 30-40 CR in first 3 weeks now they will earn some 5-10 CR that too if the DVDs sell. Piracy does not differentiate when it comes to Hindi or Marathi or any other language movie. All movies are pirated and that too adds to the loss of the Marathi film industry.
Seriously if ones thinks little calmly and logically with a open mind this is not an issue at all.
The beef issue I can understand holds some water even to a veg guy like me but the movie thing is not even an issue....
So move on....

 

[superczar]

Right, this move may satisfy you personally given your personal linguistic and cultural associations
However , there is no saying what the next move for a govt that starts mixing its priorities would be

Banning beef, forcing specific movie categories , what next?
What if the next one is something that affects your negatively personally?

What separates India from other recent semi democracies or autocracies is what is at risk here - While by itself, it may seem trivial but carries far greater repercussions potentially

 

[Being.smart]

@onlyravi , as per you quote

There are 1000s of TV shows shot in Mumbai not in bhillai or chappra.

,so plz ask your BJP govt. to make train travel free for us, since bhilai do manufacture 90%++ of the rails for Indian railways, and also MH buys electricity from CG, so that too be subsidized here ? ?

The whole of the Marathi film industry is free to go wherever they want to shoot all over India, who asked them to share space with Bolly's industries, Its more of a mentality of some Marathi peoples to keep them in upfront line above other Indians by using their political will power,

Make an awesome Marathi movies, plex will run full shows throughout the day, throw garbage on us, and then you should your know timing place

 

[asingh]

Kind of stupid and dumb.

 

[onlyravi]

@onlyravi , as per you quote ,so plz ask your BJP govt. to make train travel free for us, since bhilai do manufacture 90%++ of the rails for Indian railways, and also MH buys electricity from CG, so that too be subsidized here ? ?

There are already loads of trains filled with people who travel without ticket coming to Mumbai everyday.... so thats already done by Lalu

 

[Superbad]

ask yourself why incentives are being provided.

to keep the level playing field. same as what happens in karnataka. mind you nowhere as biased as karnataka govt http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...for-non-Kannada-films/articleshow/825220.cms?
this incentive is more needed here since the market for marathi movies is available in maharashtra than other states.

No, if they were profitable they would screen them but there is more demand for other movies. I don't they think are avoiding screening marathi movies but trying to maximise profits based on screenings.

if they feel they can earn more profits by avoiding marathi cinema screening, they should avoid asking for tax rebates

and that is using legislation to interfere in the market.

this is to provide a level playing field, they are not directing the multiplex owners to run a movie for a definite amount of days or shows. if the movie is not worth earning profits, the screening will invariably stop.

Marathi cinema cannot compete with hindi cinema on scale of economy. plus there is cartelisation by the distributors to max out earnings from hindi cinema. an average run with respect to days of screening for a hindi movie is much lower than a corresponding marathi cinema.

look, this is bjp trying to secure its shaky hold. that is all. taking away arguments from their opponents. so they can get on with real work.

this law has been in place for the past decade sir. just that BJP is trying to implement the law, they are being made to look bad.

,so plz ask your BJP govt. to make train travel free for us, since bhilai do manufacture 90%++ of the rails for Indian railways, and also MH buys electricity from CG, so that too be subsidized here ? ?

Using tax money of which mumbai is a biggest contributor?
never knew bhilai manufactured 90% of the rails for indian railways for free.

The whole of the Marathi film industry is free to go wherever they want to shoot all over India, who asked them to share space with Bolly's industries, Its more of a mentality of some Marathi peoples to keep them in upfront line above other Indians by using their political will power,

with regards to cinema, marathi cinema and cinema in india started due to dadasaheb phalke in mumbai.later on hindi cinema evolved in mumbai.
so its not a case of marathi cinema to go find a place elsewhere. it was always here and will continue to do so.

 

[Lord Nemesis]

this is to provide a level playing field, they are not directing the multiplex owners to run a movie for a definite amount of days or shows. if the movie is not worth earning profits, the screening will invariably stop.

I have read that there is already some law in effect in Maharashtra stating that there must be 125 Marathi movies to be screened compulsorily or something on those lines.

In any case, are Marathi movies really so shitty that they made the mandatory compulsory screening a political issue? I used to watch Marathi movies as a kid (back in late 80's and 90's) and they were usually good at the time. But any time laws are enacted for things like these, it is an indication of poor quality to me. Same goes for Kannada movies as they too have similar laws. Telugu movies are so damn shitty that just being forced to watch them during the occational bus journey is enough to give me a headache in 15 min and they still do well in local market without any aid from such legislation.

How much worse would these Kannada and Marathi movies have to be that the govt has to force these measures. What next, they will bring legislation make it mandatory for people to go to Marathi movies on every Sunday?

Good movies or entertainment will sell themselves without any such help from such regressive legislation

 

[asingh]

to keep the level playing field. same as what happens in karnataka. mind you nowhere as biased as karnataka govt http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...for-non-Kannada-films/articleshow/825220.cms?
this incentive is more needed here since the market for marathi movies is available in maharashtra than other states.

How is this keeping the business market a level playing field..? Is it not forcing and being dictatorial in nature. How can popular culture be forcefully promoted or garnered for resurgence by the government. In the sense, flavor of the culture. Of course the government has forums for music, arts, sports, and linguistic shows. Movie making and the respective throughput to the public, should be avoided. It seems like they are subsidizing Marathi lingua franca movies. This seem like propaganda and a psychological push.

Marathi cinema cannot compete with hindi cinema on scale of economy. plus there is cartelisation by the distributors to max out earnings from hindi cinema. an average run with respect to days of screening for a hindi movie is much lower than a corresponding marathi cinema.

So the government is helping.

with regards to cinema, marathi cinema and cinema in india started due to dadasaheb phalke in mumbai.later on hindi cinema evolved in mumbai.
so its not a case of marathi cinema to go find a place elsewhere. it was always here and will continue to do so.

Both can flourish. The quality and standards should be erstwhile.

 

[Superbad]

How is this keeping the business market a level playing field..?

an opportunity to have a screening in a multiplex.

Is it not forcing and being dictatorial in nature.

no because they are not delaying the screening of other movies like what happens in karntaka.

So the government is helping.

they have given an option to get tax rebate. firms which join the bandwagon have to comply. if they feel its not feasable or rather detrimental to business, they can always opt out.

Both can flourish. The quality and standards should be erstwhile.

depends when a movie like dhoom3 becomes a highest money maker, i doubt marathi movies can match the quality standards of dhoom3.

also marathi movies are not run of the mill movies like bollywood counterparts, many are experimental in nature, so returns cannot be compared.

 

[letmein]

Instead of enforcing a flawed law, they should have addressed the tax rebates given to cinemas.