looks like its going to be out in Europe on Oct 18th
Motorola’s MILESTONE 2 launching on October 18 » Eurodroid
Motorola’s MILESTONE 2 launching on October 18 » Eurodroid
Motorola Milestone 2
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Droid 2 Global might me out on Nov 11th, so maybe MM2 will be out around the same time. ofcourse, this is all just speculation.
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khanvis2009
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i got the torch .recently . its really nice .. cost me 32.5 with warranty .. milestone i assume will have the same awful battrey life as milestone 1
khanvis2009
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hey!! my brother wanted the Torch....but on Vodafone. Is it available on Vodafone?[/QUOTE]
yes officially available in india now i am using it on voda mumbai .. but i didnt buy from voda .. picked it from alfa mumbai for 32.5
yes officially available in india now i am using it on voda mumbai .. but i didnt buy from voda .. picked it from alfa mumbai for 32.5
Lighter and Thinner --> Milestone 2 wins. But by a very small amount.teocem said:
Looks --> Subjective.
Battery Life --> MM2 hasn't even been released, how do you know how long the battery lasts? My G2 lasts for 14-22 depending on usage, which is pretty good. And when applying KK's Undervolt kernel, the battery improves even more.
Better CPU --> Really? Where is your source for this? Incase you didn't know, the G2 @ 800Mhz beats the Droid 2 at 1Ghz. So assume the same for Desire Z and Droid 2, since both of these have the same internal hardware as their US counterparts. The Desire Z has a better GPU, and a better CPU. And don't forget overclocking ; the G2 when OC'ed to 1Ghz smashes the competition, at 1.4Ghz it just flies. Its stable at 1.2, which is already crazy fast. I had OC'ed mine to 1.2 for kicks, but I'm back to 800Mhz, because at 800Mhz the phone runs as smooth as it ran at 1.2Ghz. So here the Desire Z wins. See these two benchmarks -->
Slider Mechanism --> Both work well. Its a tie.
Now positive points for Desire Z :
1) Has similar hardware to G2 which runs stock Android. So it will get updates faster when future OS versions come out.
2) The latest Sense UI in Desire Z is much much better than Motoblur. Milestone 1 had stock Android, MM2 does not. If you prefer Motoblur over Sense, well, the discussion is already pointless.
3) The bootloader is locked thanks to the eFuse protection by Motorola. So no Custom ROM's by the various devs such as Cyanogen.
4) Desire Z/HTC phones will have great community support no matter what. The G1 which was the first Android phone, released 2008 October, has Froyo ROM's for it, thanks to its great community support. It got Froyo before SGS or Milestone 1. Or Droid X. Although due its inferior hardware it doesn't run well. I just put out this point to make you realize the support G2/Desire Z will get.
In the end, its your choice. I really don't understand why someone would go for MM2 over Desire Z, but YMMV I suppose.
I have to admit that I do get some of your points, some I do not, and some do not apply to me.Superfrag said:Lighter and Thinner --> Milestone 2 wins. But by a very small amount.
Looks --> Subjective.
Battery Life --> MM2 hasn't even been released, how do you know how long the battery lasts? My G2 lasts for 14-22 depending on usage, which is pretty good. And when applying KK's Undervolt kernel, the battery improves even more.
Better CPU --> Really? Where is your source for this? Incase you didn't know, the G2 @ 800Mhz beats the Droid 2 at 1Ghz. So assume the same for Desire Z and Droid 2, since both of these have the same internal hardware as their US counterparts. The Desire Z has a better GPU, and a better CPU. And don't forget overclocking ; the G2 when OC'ed to 1Ghz smashes the competition, at 1.4Ghz it just flies. Its stable at 1.2, which is already crazy fast. I had OC'ed mine to 1.2 for kicks, but I'm back to 800Mhz, because at 800Mhz the phone runs as smooth as it ran at 1.2Ghz. So here the Desire Z wins. See these two benchmarks -->
Slider Mechanism --> Both work well. Its a tie.
Now positive points for Desire Z :
1) Has similar hardware to G2 which runs stock Android. So it will get updates faster when future OS versions come out.
2) The latest Sense UI in Desire Z is much much better than Motoblur. Milestone 1 had stock Android, MM2 does not. If you prefer Motoblur over Sense, well, the discussion is already pointless.
3) The bootloader is locked thanks to the eFuse protection by Motorola. So no Custom ROM's by the various devs such as Cyanogen.
4) Desire Z/HTC phones will have great community support no matter what. The G1 which was the first Android phone, released 2008 October, has Froyo ROM's for it, thanks to its great community support. It got Froyo before SGS or Milestone 1. Or Droid X. Although due its inferior hardware it doesn't run well. I just put out this point to make you realize the support G2/Desire Z will get.
In the end, its your choice. I really don't understand why someone would go for MM2 over Desire Z, but YMMV I suppose.
First of all form factor along with weight and thickness are important issues for me. Bootload and custom Rom are not of much interest to many users. You are probably right for the cpu but I am not sure it will make much difference. Battery life issue is very important for serious users and will be the dealbreaker for me. Anyway, your post has tempted me to buy both of these phones and then decide. I am actually tempted the buy Motorola Droid Pro SE, which has a similar candy shape as my present Nokia E72, as well !
As I receive and use them, it would be nice to share our experiences.
I hope your future posts will not cost me as much !!!
khanvis2009
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desire z has a "hinge problem " stay away from it ,, just google it its a common prob
YouTube - T-Mobile G2 (HTC Desire Z) - Loose Hinge Problem [HD1080p]
YouTube - T-Mobile G2 (HTC Desire Z) - Loose Hinge Problem [HD1080p]
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It is a bit bulky, but I suppose it is expected in a slider phone.. the keyboard is actually very good, the quick keys are a very addition.
Battery life on G2 is brilliant, the above mentioned battery life is on 3G at speeds of around 3-5Mbps.. the Desire Z should have similar battery life. CPU shouldn't make much of a difference right now, but maybe in the future it might.
The Hinge problem is present, but only if you hold the phone upside down from the keyboard without touching the screen part. In my usage of the G2 since I got it in the 1st week of October, it hasn't affected me at all.
Before the G2 I had a Vibrant(Galaxy S) which was a good phone but the G2 is so much better.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2.
Ah well, different users have different requirements.. lack of custom ROM's is a dealbreaker for me.. lol. HTC might only support the phone till a certain OS, but thanks to custom ROM's, we can expect better support from the community.teocem said:
It is a bit bulky, but I suppose it is expected in a slider phone.. the keyboard is actually very good, the quick keys are a very addition.
Battery life on G2 is brilliant, the above mentioned battery life is on 3G at speeds of around 3-5Mbps.. the Desire Z should have similar battery life. CPU shouldn't make much of a difference right now, but maybe in the future it might.
The Hinge problem is present, but only if you hold the phone upside down from the keyboard without touching the screen part. In my usage of the G2 since I got it in the 1st week of October, it hasn't affected me at all.
Before the G2 I had a Vibrant(Galaxy S) which was a good phone but the G2 is so much better.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2.
Now they say its Nov 17th. I wouldn't hold my breath though.
Motorola Milestone 2 available from November 17th – Mobile Phone News | DialToSave Blog
Motorola Milestone 2 available from November 17th – Mobile Phone News | DialToSave Blog
Shripad
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Going for motorola, one should seriously consider all other options before doing so.
They are trying to emulate Apple when it comes to locked hardware platform with their bootloader crap. (Actually t hey have gone one step ahead
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Add to that their treatment of Milestone. It is yet to get Froyo and they havent even confirmed that it will 100% get froyo update in the future as well.
Milestone is usually an afterthought to droid. And it does not get same treatment as Droid.
And when it comes to processor, the TI OMAP is probably much stronger than MSM 7230 in raw computational power. The linpack will not show true potential of TI chips. Its not optimised for TI OMAPs But as an SOC, the MSM 7230 is more balanced chip. Both are 45nm, but the Adreno GPU core on MSM 7230 is much stronger than the PowerVR gpu of the TI OMAP.
They are trying to emulate Apple when it comes to locked hardware platform with their bootloader crap. (Actually t hey have gone one step ahead
)Add to that their treatment of Milestone. It is yet to get Froyo and they havent even confirmed that it will 100% get froyo update in the future as well.
Milestone is usually an afterthought to droid. And it does not get same treatment as Droid.
And when it comes to processor, the TI OMAP is probably much stronger than MSM 7230 in raw computational power. The linpack will not show true potential of TI chips. Its not optimised for TI OMAPs But as an SOC, the MSM 7230 is more balanced chip. Both are 45nm, but the Adreno GPU core on MSM 7230 is much stronger than the PowerVR gpu of the TI OMAP.
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