MY PS3 got YLOD what at should i do ...?

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thanks guys for all the replies...

as many say we cant argue with sony ...

anyway i will hear from the service centre guy tom and let u guys know what was the deal

thanks for helping me out
 
i am amazed by the kind of opinions and reactions he got

people here just not getting the point of problem --he gave examples but no1 seems to understand well well Fcuk off the policy thing 1st

electrical items can damage but they are not meant to break its core operations in between, thats why we pay full money not part of it.... like here this guy is being forced to buy or repair the console (which is not right) and its just not happened to him only but many out there so its a big engineering fault .... if thats the case they should widely accept it and recall all the ps3 phat and repair them for free like Toyota have done or nokia or microsoft with the xbox or many others

talking in general if we still take the 50% thing in mind.......then again here he is not sure abt slim ot not, new or refurb. so i think that is nonsense

dunno if any of u gonna point on me but i expect u to better use ur head 1st to understand the view here
 
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But how do you know his problem occurred due to "engineering" defect and not due to some other reason like mishandling or improper ventilation or may be failing to read and follow the manual.

I guess you should think before blaming others.

Microsoft, Nokia, etc did that because those defects were so widespread that it was definitely a manufacturing defect.

In PS3's case the YLOD issues are quite rare and usually happen due to prolonged use without proper venting.

Also as I earlier said this discussion is pointless (reasons mentioned in my earlier post).
 
vajm1234 said:
electrical items can damage but they are not meant to break its core operations in between, thats why we pay full money not part of it.... like here this guy is being forced to buy or repair the console (which is not right) and its just not happened to him only but many out there so its a big engineering fault .... if thats the case they should widely accept it and recall all the ps3 phat and repair them for free like Toyota have done or nokia or microsoft with the xbox or many others

How do you conclude that its an engg/design fault? In the case of XBOX 360, there were apparant flaws that were discovered by people as well as accepted by MS. Just the number of failures in itself is not an indication. Even if it is, the number would be pretty large to be an indication. MS had more than 33% failure rates on its 360's before it was concluded to be a sure shot flaw. Other than that a failure can be for any perticular reason.

How about the number of TV/Fridge/any other electronics that break down after the warranty period? Those failures are definitely much larger in number than the PS3 YLOD's.
 
Sorry to derail this thread, but I have really got to reply to this obnoxious post.

vajm1234 said:
people here just not getting the point of problem --he gave examples but no1 seems to understand well well Fcuk off the policy thing 1st
We understood his problem, but not the repair logic thing with Sony. So let's review that once again, shall we?

vajm1234 said:
electrical items can damage but they are not meant to break its core operations in between, thats why we pay full money not part of it.... like here this guy is being forced to buy or repair the console (which is not right) and its just not happened to him only but many out there so its a big engineering fault .... if thats the case they should widely accept it and recall all the ps3 phat and repair them for free like Toyota have done or nokia or microsoft with the xbox or many others
Electrical items are bound to go faulty, if not, then it's purely your luck. A manufacturer does not guarantee the product working for it's entire life time with you. So they keep a dead line till which it would provide support for it. Post that, they "legally" aren't bound to provide you with any repair promise. So your statement of "f*ck the policy" goes out of the window. Try to manage a company first and then screw policies around. When get the warranty document, do you find any clause which states for the out-of-warranty repair term? A product recall isn't as easy as snapping a finger. The YLOD isn't as prominent as a RRoD. Microsoft's numbers ran huge and hence they increased the warranty and didn't recall the product. In fact, they improvised on the design to minimise their earlier loss.

Also the OP isn't being "forced" to buy anything. He was just placed an offer by Sony in lieu of his busted PS3.

vajm1234 said:
talking in general if we still take the 50% thing in mind.......then again here he is not sure abt slim ot not, new or refurb. so i think that is nonsense
Then he needs to clear it out with Sony.

vajm1234 said:
dunno if any of u gonna point on me but i expect u to better use ur head 1st to understand the view here
About time you start using your brains, rather than just ranting around. I understand how frustrating it is when a product breaks down and that too, outside warranty. But I have to understand what situation I am in, before marching with pitch fork towards the company.
 
@Lord Nemesis - repeat repeat who knows if the problem is in early stages.... i m not concluding anything but this YLOD issue suddenly comes to news and close to 10% got affected already?

@Ethan_Hunt - its not abt "marching with pitch fork towards the company" but considering the issue .........who knows if this fault rate with the phat1 go higher n higher

u say "try to manage a company 1st" woh i am actually doing it ...do u know how to do it buddy...see we dont have that much customer base like sony but here thats y we make divisions for different places, product types etc out there, in my company we have different divisions for different locations (why is that well i wont be able to explain u guys the whole management thing in a single post) and say if nything go wrong with the goods that already been passed to the customer and even after the warranty periods get over if we get good amt of complains for that we rest aside everything else from that division and correct that problem from the root (here we have 8-10% as Quality F line or QFline) otw it will hurt our goodwill somehow or the other-- got it if not m sorry

nobody is talking abt lifetime support but here u r saying like "hey u cant do anything about it forget it if company says 1 year warranty it will work 1 year and rest ur luck" damm i am feeling like i am ur customer and ur like my suppliers i came across every second day with a retard mindset of fcuking off the people and making money 2to4 4to8 every sec its totally opposite :rofl:

For a comapny its the sheer competition that dont give them enough time to check the product 1st in satisfactory way like in the case of SSD and the 1st Jmicron controller issue (where indilinx comes to the light) so its not easy in any case i know that with my work too but if is so apparent then there must be something that left out.
 
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What you are saying may be true but what I want to know is that what kind of help is the TC expecting here?

He's asking why can't they (Sony) do it, but this is not the place to ask this question.

I don't know how many members here are working for Sony in one way or another but he'll not get an answer here for his specific question.
 
vajm1234 said:
@Ethan_Hunt - its not abt "marching with pitch fork towards the company" but considering the issue .........who knows if this fault rate with the phat1 go higher n higher
So that's a prediction or your estimation?

vajm1234 said:
u say "try to manage a company 1st" woh i am actually doing it ...do u know how to do it buddy...see we dont have that much customer base like sony but here thats y we make divisions for different places, product types etc out there, in my company we have different divisions for different locations (why is that well i wont be able to explain u guys the whole management thing in a single post) and say if nything go wrong with the goods that already been passed to the customer and even after the warranty periods get over if we get good amt of complains for that we rest aside everything else from that division and correct that problem from the root (here we have 8-10% as Quality F line or QFline) otw it will hurt our goodwill somehow or the other-- got it if not m sorry
I'm not sure which company you're operating, and clearly no offence to it, you need to realise that electronic products usually have a tendency to go bad at any point. AFAIK, there aren't a lot of companies who provide out of warranty repairs in case of electronic products and those that provide it, charge exorbitant rates to fix it. Sony is a very large company and if you expect them to take in every single PS3, which is out of warranty, and perform repairs on it, then it's not going to happen. There is a reason why they call it replacement warranty as they don't attempt to fix it, but replace it. It doesn't mean that they aren't capable of repairing it. It's the amount of time required to be invested in it and if the repair work isn't up to the mark, then get flanked by the customer yet again. I'm sure even you would know (or can imagine) the amount of time required to be invested in operating a repairs department with a large customer base.

vajm1234 said:
nobody is talking abt lifetime support but here u r saying like "hey u cant do anything about it forget it if company says 1 year warranty it will work 1 year and rest ur luck" damm i am feeling like i am ur customer and ur like my suppliers i came across every second day its totally opposite :rofl:
Pretty much every console company offers 1 year manufacturer warranty. Microsoft being the exception, as it covers an extended 2 years for the RRoD and E74 issues. We all know the risk when we opt for these products with it's warranty time frame. I'm not sure what is you're expectation as a customer when you purchase a product and how long do you want it to last, but in this era, I know how unreliable most electronic products are and hence set my expectations accordingly. So when my Lite-On DVD writer died exactly after one year, I didn't do anything about it. I just accepted the fact that it died and moved on. So it's not about "it will work 1 year and rest is your luck" thing, but it's about how you handle the loss of failure, post your product's warranty period. Ask anyone out here and they know how we have to deal with out-of-warranty products. Else you wouldn't have seen so many comments in the first place.

I empathise with the OP and his situation, however, he has a choice to either fix it locally or take up Sony's offer. If they say NO to his repair offer, then nor he or anyone else can do anything about it.
 
@kestrel5915 -its more of expectations from u guys here from him according to me atleast the way i am taking it ....i think he was expecting that because most of us give solutions to the problem he will also got a surprised unknown solution from the other end which was not the case this time thatsy

i dont think anyone would like others to give suggestions thats already pinching him unless he specifically asked for it u know.

@Ethan_Hunt -its again the way of taking it in this way....they do repair these consoles and mark it as repair or refurb and hand over any1 of em to the end user sometime even new 1 but>>>> it can work both ways like it wont let customer to wait too much but it end up having a silly deal with them too but they are also try to make this a money making exercise that is what wrong acc to me
 
vajm1234 said:
@kestrel5915 -its more of expectations from u guys here from him according to me atleast the way i am taking it ....i think he was expecting that because most of us give solutions to the problem he will also got a surprised unknown solution from the other end which was not the case this time thatsy

i dont think anyone would like others to give suggestions thats already pinching him unless he specifically asked for it u know.

The members did provide the OP with alternative/cheaper solutions namely to fix the PS3 himself or to get it fixed from a third party. The OP's question was why Sony does not carry repairs and that's what people explained is not a reasonable thing to expect.

vajm1234 said:
@Ethan_Hunt -its again the way of taking it in this way....they do repair these consoles and mark it as repair or refurb and hand over any1 of em to the end user sometime even new 1 but>>>> it can work both ways like it wont let customer to wait too much but it end up having a silly deal with them too but they are also try to make this a money making exercise that is what wrong acc to me

Right and wrong doesn't come into the picture at all. After the warranty period, they simply don't have any obligation to repair or give a replacement offer like the one OP got.

Also I am not sure whether you realize it or not, but MTBF is one of the factors in deciding the warranty periods given by these companies. If they are giving you a warranty of one year, it means that the MTBF is at least one year or more and that they are confident enough to pledge you a replacement at their expense if the product does fail within that period. It also means that they can comfortably cover those replacements without making a loss overall.

They never make any claims about the reliability of the product past that warranty period. After that warranty period carrying repairs would be an unprofitable situation (especially when they also to do those repairs in a reasonable amount of time and still may have to end up with the customer getting back to them claiming shoddy repairs. It would be more profitable for them to give a replacement for half price and then salvage parts form the non-working unit/refurbish them at their own time.
 
I'll make it very simple for u

1.Take it to an unauthorised service centre,get it fixed for 3-5k(or even lower),get it working again....wait for it to die again in 2-6 months(which it will, trust me i have seen a lot of YLOD issues)

2. AFAIK, Sony does not send PS3's abroad for repairing, if they do know with proper paperwork and if its within budget, do it...if it does not have any kinda warranty after repairs...then its of no use.

3. Pay the 10k,get a NEW PS3 slim in return...not repaired not refurbishment unit, but a BRAND NEW ONE!!!

Now the choice is upto u....
 
here is the update guys ...

1.) service centre has given us the offer... pay 15 k ie only 25% off from the original price , prev it was 50% ... and get a new one...

2.) at present i cant get 15k from my parents...

3.) what ever u guys say .. i am seriuosly pissed off with sony ... 15k for a new one...

i still dont get it... why cant they f6king rectify the problem and give it back ... dont they know how to repair... ? :-( :-( wht do they think of us ? money making machines... :-(

seriously this is attorciuos ....

i am going to find a local dealer and get it done for 3k .. and place the whole goddamn ps3 on a ice next time ... if it fails again , i am going to move to xbox 360 cracked one and enjoy 100`s of game... this is reality....
 
Naveen_Reloaded said:
i still dont get it... why cant they f6king rectify the problem and give it back ... dont they know how to repair... ? :-( :-( wht do they think of us ? money making machines... :-(

seriously this is attorciuos ....

i am going to find a local dealer and get it done for 3k .. and place the whole goddamn ps3 on a ice next time ... if it fails again , i am going to move to xbox 360 cracked one and enjoy 100`s of game... this is reality....

I can understand your grievance because if something like this happens to me, then may be I'll also be mad.
But here are some points to ponder:

1. You can buy a cooling attachment for your PS3 for future use if you feel unsafe about it. You can just use Google to choose from many available.

2. Xbox 360 will be even more prone to such issues but if you are still willing to go ahead with it then make sure that you're buying a Jasper chipped model which has far less heating issues.

3. You can use this link (PlayStation.Blog Share : Have an idea to improve the PlayStation experience? Share.) to give your own ideas to the PS3 Social Media team regarding anything that you feel about the PS3 should change (I don't know how many of the ideas are they actually willing to implement but its a start anyway). These ideas can be read by anyone and are voted upon by other members too.
 
Sony is a jack when it comes to handling customers.

The whole point of replacement when something can be fixed is indeed atrocious but that's how it is. Once the warranty was gone, its pure luck how long it ll last. It did lasted for some good years for you. If you loved the ps3, get a replacement.. if not.. get it locally done.

Taking into account that you dont have the budget rite now,

Keep the ps3 and try to get it repaired locally. 3/4 k would make it come back to life again.

If the refurbed one gets any other light, i am sure u ll kill one or two Sony officials. Besides you ll again be back to sq one.

For 15k u can easily purchase a well maintained second hand ps3 being sold either here or other forums.

Add abt 4k more and u get a brand new ps3 with game and full warranty. Slim ps3 with a nice decal looks pretty acceptable.

But Warning you.. somebody did got it done for abt 4k and after 3-4 months it again went kaput.

Locally done job will be shoddy one and you can expect your heart skipping beats. So entirely your call.. 3-4k and cheap alternative or pay good money and still have peace of mind to certain extent.
 
^ thanks for the comments ..

shoud`nt there be a uproar for this kinda atrocity...

again i failed to see from others perspective who are supporting sony here , for eg i buy a PC , if the cpu fries ., the serivce guy find and replace the cpu and charges me accordingly even if it out of warranty , within warranty we dont have to pay anything ..

similarly ps3 service centres are there to see where the problem is and rectify it.. if its cpu , replace it and charge it accordingly. hope i am very clear here this time.

yes i am , and many here are out of warranty period , that doesnt mean we have to keep our fingers crossed all the time ....

if it get fried , let the service guy fix it and charge accordingly and i am ready to pay..

the service guy told me something got fried due to voltage issue... well and good , i am sure bluray drive , HDD , panel , my controleer , and other stuff are intact. so why cant the service guy simply replace the fried one ?

if they cant (sony service guy ) then who can ? then why is sony is having a service centre ?

its not like some chineese product where the seller runs off after few days after selling tbhe product...

why cant we ask them ? why are we letting this day robbery to occur ?

- really pissed off ps3 owner :-(
 
Naveen_Reloaded said:
3.) what ever u guys say .. i am seriuosly pissed off with sony ... 15k for a new one...

i still dont get it... why cant they f6king rectify the problem and give it back ... dont they know how to repair... ? :-( :-( wht do they think of us ? money making machines... :-(

seriously this is attorciuos ....

If they agree to repair the unit and charge 12~15k for it (which they reasonably would), would you be happy then? I guess not. As for the option of getting it repaired by a third party, you always had that alternative from the start.

As for being pissed with Sony, you just need to face the reality. You had no warranty, so what did you expect? Its not just about Sony. You would get the same kind of service from almost every electronics /consumer electronics company of sony's repute. Most don't offer repair service at all and even if they do, they would charge you insane amount of money even for the preliminary diagnosis. After Warranty service is never cheap.
 
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