Need suggestions for buying AC

just checked there official site and man they are expensive the cheapest Inverter model is 52k https://mitsubishielectric.in/produ...ms/split-air-conditioners/inverter/msy-jp18vf
so it will cost me around 60k with stabilizer and fitting etc...
Official site always quote the highest price, check local price in your city if there's any showroom or authorized dealer nearby.
last month I was looking for this refrigerator -
whirlpool 440l
that time price at official site was 49800 /- and Amazon India was selling at 40999 /-
and see right now its 40k Amazon whirlpool
yes, local dealers were also quoting price 48 k to 53k for this item.
so I ended up buying Samsung refrigerator.
same is the case with every other popular brand like Lg , samsung, Godrej or mitsubishi
These kind of stupid pricing is available only on official websites and for all appliances and electronics brands, so don't estimate on basis of online pricing specially from official website.
 
Thats right but not many dealers have those in stock because of low demand, When I bought O-General AC few years back there were only few dealers who had them in stock so its really hard to bargain. Though I came across a dealer through Olx who asked me to give him specific model number and he will get me lowest price. No idea how but if I get proper gst paid invoice then I'll go for it.
 
I have 2 Hitachis and been serving great for 15yr and 9yrs. No issues at all except for the regular gas top up. (window and split both 1 ton)
I also have a samsung and its good too. (1ton)
 
Ok... So I got a rude shock when I calculated the area of my room. I always though that 1 ton would suffice and I had got a 1.2 ton jiust to be safe. Turns out that as per my room dimensions 16x12x10(LxWxH) I need a 1.5 ton ac. I got the reading confirmed from all suggested websites like Mitsubishi, Ogeneral, bijli bachao.. all suggested 1.5 ton.
What do you guys say? Do I really require 1.5 ton. Still finding it hard to believe as I used 1.2 ton till now with no issues. My west window dimensions turn out to be 7x4 sq feet. I live on 4th floor and there are 8 floors in all. Sunlight only on west side window after 3 pm.
 
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there isnt much price difference between 1.2 to 1.5t. If your budget can accommodate 1.5t, get it. The faster your room cool, the less time ac needs to run at full power. inverter acs power down once required cooling is achieved
just checked there official site and man they are expensive the cheapest Inverter model is 52k https://mitsubishielectric.in/produ...ms/split-air-conditioners/inverter/msy-jp18vf
so it will cost me around 60k with stabilizer and fitting etc...
Im running inverter ac without stabilizer since 3 years. Unless your area has extreme power issues, dont get it. even if you get it , it'll be 2~5k for strabilizer and 1.5k for electrician
 
Actually the cooling area is only 120(10x12)(LxW) sq feet. There is additional 6 feet which increases my length from 10 to 16. This additional area consists of bathroom which I don't think requires cooling. So the actual area comes out to be 138 sq feet.(10x12)+(6x3)(LxW)
 
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there isnt much price difference between 1.2 to 1.5t. If your budget can accommodate 1.5t, get it. The faster your room cool, the less time ac needs to run at full power. inverter acs power down once required cooling is achieved

Im running inverter ac without stabilizer since 3 years. Unless your area has extreme power issues, dont get it. even if you get it , it'll be 2~5k for strabilizer and 1.5k for electrician

It is true that inverters switch to low power mode once they attain the target temp, but this is not like a smooth analog step down. What I mean is there are certain predefined power limits (like a CPU) where it can operate, (e.g. 100%, 80%, 60%, 40% of rate capacity and so on). The number of such steps vary between brands and models. Models with more number of steps are typically more expensive. The problem is, if the cooling area is too big or has too many heat sources, the inverter never switches to low power mode. Conversely, if the area is too small for the cooling unit, the system will definitely reach the target temp faster, but may cool too fast even at the lowest step, when it will simply shut off the compressor till the temperature rises above a preset threshold and behave exactly like a non-inverter unit.

Actually the cooling area is only 120(10x12)(LxW) sq feet. There is additional 6 feet which increases my length from 10 to 16. This additional area consists of bathroom which I don't think requires cooling. So the actual area comes out to be 138 sq feet.(10x12)+(6x3)(LxW)
Please consider some other factors too, e.g. number of people in the room on an average, computers/laptops/projectors, doors and windows, top floor or not, whether walls are exposed to sunlight, etc. Below are two situations I face on a daily basis.

Example #1: I have a 1.5 tr unit in the bedroom of my ancestral home which is a 60+ year old building with 15" thick brick walls. Room size is 15' x 12.5' x 11.5', with 3 doors and 4 windows, south east open. I also have a somewhat powerful PC there. The unit cools the room very fast and sometimes I can hear the compressor shut off unless I set the target temp below 25 C.

Example #2: In my apartment bedroom (relatively recent construction, 11.5' x 10' x 9' size, 8" thick walls, east and north open, 2 windows, 2 doors, top floor with no false ceiling, only 1 TV), my 1.2 tr unit initially struggles to cool down the room in a hot summer day, but once it reaches a target of 27 C, steps down and maintains that temp quite well without the compressor shutting down even once.

TLDR: You can go with a 1.2 tr unit provided your room is not on the top floor and does not have too many windows or direct sunlight. Else, go with a 1.5 tr. The LG AC I have allows me to set the power limit manually too which helps when you want your 1.5 tr unit to perform as a lower capacity unit.
 
I've shortlisted LG, Panasonic, Hitachi and now looking for the models, there are few review sites that have few models I think its a good place to start
 
Just googled best inverter ac in india 2021 and checked few links @Tejas01

 
Please consider some other factors too, e.g. number of people in the room on an average, computers/laptops/projectors, doors and windows, top floor or not, whether walls are exposed to sunlight, etc. Below are two situations I face on a daily basis.

Example #1: I have a 1.5 tr unit in the bedroom of my ancestral home which is a 60+ year old building with 15" thick brick walls. Room size is 15' x 12.5' x 11.5', with 3 doors and 4 windows, south east open. I also have a somewhat powerful PC there. The unit cools the room very fast and sometimes I can hear the compressor shut off unless I set the target temp below 25 C.

Example #2: In my apartment bedroom (relatively recent construction, 11.5' x 10' x 9' size, 8" thick walls, east and north open, 2 windows, 2 doors, top floor with no false ceiling, only 1 TV), my 1.2 tr unit initially struggles to cool down the room in a hot summer day, but once it reaches a target of 27 C, steps down and maintains that temp quite well without the compressor shutting down even once.

TLDR: You can go with a 1.2 tr unit provided your room is not on the top floor and does not have too many windows or direct sunlight. Else, go with a 1.5 tr. The LG AC I have allows me to set the power limit manually too which helps when you want your 1.5 tr unit to perform as a lower capacity unit.
That explains my reasoning why I went for 1.2 ton for my first AC based on the parameters mentioned. Now In my preferred brands (LG and Panasonic), none have 1.2 ton so will have to go for 1.5 and then step it down to 1 ton with variable compressor after the desired cooling is achieved.
@kartikoli Do mention your location so that if others are in your area they can advice if the after sales-service of the brand you select is good in your area or not. Like, I am mostly going for LG because, I called LG guys almost 3 times in last month for my washing machine and they came. Although its a different case they couldn't solve the issue but their presence in the area helps. Hitachi was practically non-existence as also confirmed by manucitc called on their toll-free to repair no reply, ac started with issues from 3-4th year itself. Had to get it repaired from outside and things went south. They seemed to have resolved the issues as no member with Hitachi has this problem I have.
Just shared my experience so that you won't go through the same.
 
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In case you are looking for Mitsubishi then please bear in mind that there are two brands. Mitsubishi Air Conditioner and Mitsubishi Electric. The former is cheaper and consumer grade. The later is heavy duty with long throw. There are multiple dealers in each city. Get a quote from each of them and make them compete for your business. I got a 2 TON, Mitsubishi Electric AC installed last year.
 
Good point @Tejas01 I am from Lucknow, I've heard that LG have good service but no personal experience yet as my refrigerator is working great for last 2yrs after Godrej disaster

@skoka123 Thanks for the info, never knew if that was the case though I am not planning to buy Mitsubishi and more inclined towards LG, Panasonic and Hitachi. but that doesn't mean I won't ask for them when I give a visit to shops
 
We got a 1.5 ton 5 Star LG Inverter (KS-18QNZA) AC July last year for ₹35k on a sale.

It replaced our 7 year old Voltas 2 ton 3 star AC as electricity bill was very high. Voltas is still working fine in another room where it is used seldomly. LG one seems to have halved the cost (if not 1/3rd) but it does take some extra minutes to cool the room compared to the Voltas. It maybe due to difference in Tonnage or something.
 
As per the size of your room, a 1.5 ton split AC would do well for your room and offer it enough cooling. However, after using ACs for several years, I have come to the conclusion that buying ACs from just any brand based on their aggressive marketing is not very intelligent and I have faced a lot of issues with brands like Voltas and Godrej. I live in Noida and my flat is on the top floor of my building. You can expect how how it becomes in summers when you live just under the terrace. I bought a Godrej AC first but it was absolutely incapable in summers so I had to switch it to Voltas in just a year.
Well, Voltas did well when the weather outside was cool, but when it was hot, the AC was extremely incapable. So someone suggested me to go for a brand like Hitachi, Daikin or Blue Star and never look for any other brand who is not a cooling specialist. Well, I bought a Hitachi AC and this is now working really well even during the summers. So I would suggest not to go for just any brand especially if you have to operate the AC for long hours or in extremes of conditions. Go for those which can actually cool your home even in the toughest conditions.
 
Completely agree with you and thats the reason I bought O-General AC but thought I might opt for something different this time. I just had a chat with my brother and he is insisting to go with O-General AC again as this is the brand we can trust but are they good when it comes to electric consumption as well?

I had a really bad experience with kelvinator 1.5T AC, sold at half price in an year. took a chance thinking they are good in refrigeration so might use that experience in AC's but i was completely wrong, simply keep distance with this brand, A 1.5T AC is not enough to cool even small rooms where as my brother bought Lloyd Window AC and it works like charm
 
In case you are looking for Mitsubishi then please bear in mind that there are two brands. Mitsubishi Air Conditioner and Mitsubishi Electric. The former is cheaper and consumer grade. The later is heavy duty with long throw. There are multiple dealers in each city. Get a quote from each of them and make them compete for your business. I got a 2 TON, Mitsubishi Electric AC installed last year.
There is Mitsubishi heavy industires which is older brand and superior build and efficiency and is targeted towards commerical use and then there is mitsubishi electric which is mostly lesser efficient(still better then most other brands) and more towards consumers. Both have the same parent company. Only problem with these are very few service centers .

To those saying they have issues with brands like voltas and godrej, unless you have undersized the ac for the room size or operating outside its rated ambiet temperature. The biggest reason they have poor performance is because of poor installation.
 
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There is Mitsubishi heavy industires which is older brand and superior build and efficiency and is targeted towards commerical use and then there is mitsubishi electric which is mostly lesser efficient(still better then most other brands) and more towards consumers. Both have the same parent company. Only problem with these are very few service centers .

To those saying they have issues with brands like voltas and godrej, unless you have underized the ac for the room size or operating outside its rated ambiet temperature. The biggest reason they have poor performance is because of poor installation.
Thanks @adder. I might gotten the names mixed up.

I have a 3 star Godrej that I bought around 5 years ago. It is still going strong. The only instance of repair was to replace a Capacitor. Other than that it still works great. The technology is old that there is not much to choose between brands if you ignore the marketing hype of catechin filter, PM 2.5 filter, HEPA, bio crap etc.... As long as one sizes the tonnage for the room size and number of windows and their direction (window blinds etc) and heat generating equipment it really should not matter which brand you are going to buy. Of course, things like copper tubing etc are important.
 
Agree with MHI.... nothing comes close to their performance. But I think MHI machines for a personal room space could be overkill given that it is very powerful. I might be wrong coz I have only experienced 2 ton from them. Don't know if they supply or manufacturer lesser tonnage than 2.
 
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