0-20k Please suggest a case for an i9-13900K 4090FE build

[unni]

I have an existing SFFPC build. I would like to upgrade the case to a larger one for better cooling. The current case (LIAN LI A4-H2O) becomes untouchably hot within 10 minutes when I play games (with GPU set to 75% power level, GPU temps are usually under 80 deg). CPU temperatures quickly reach 100 deg and trigger throttling when I do video encoding. I built this PC when I was in a foreign country, and chose this small case for carrying in plane. Now, I am using it in Kerala where room temperature is in the 34-40 deg range with no a/c.

Please suggest a good case (budget: upto Rs. 9000) and a good AIO that would help me in keeping things cooler.

1. What is your budget?
   • Upto 9000 for case
2. What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)
   • CPU - Intel - Core i9-13900K 13th Gen 24 cores 8 P-cores + 16 E-cores 36M Cache, 3 to 5.8 GHz LGA1700 Unlocked Desktop Processor
   • Motherboard - ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-I GAMING WIFI LGA 1700 Mini-ITX Motherboard
   • GPU - NVIDIA - GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6X
   • RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series (Intel XMP 3.0) DDR5 RAM 96GB (2x48GB) 6800MT/s CL34-46-46-108 1.35V UDIMM
   • Monitor - Lenovo Legion R27q-30
   • PSU - Cooler Master V850 SFX Gold Full Modular, 850W
   • Cooler - EK Nucleus AIO CR240 Lux D-RGB All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
   • Case - LIAN LI A4-H2O X4 Black Mini-ITX
3. Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)
   • I will be keeping all, except probably upgrade the AIO to a larger one
4. Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.
   • CPU case
   • AIO if required
5. Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component
   • I am open to upgrade/replace a component if it helps in lowering the CPU/GPU temperatures
6. Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)
   • Kerala, store preferred as I am worried about case damage for online purchases
   • Open to online purchase
7. What is your intended use for this PC/hardware
   • Gaming
   • Converting videos from h264 to h265
   • Running local LLMs
8. Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.
   • No
9. If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?
   • Avatar, GTA5/6, Red Dead Redemption 2, Battlefield, COD
10. What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage
    1. Gaming - 2560 x 1440
    2. Desktop - 2560 x 1440
11. Are you looking to overclock?
    • No
12. Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?
    • Windows 11

 

[unni]

Is Lian Li Lancool 216 ARGB (E-ATX) Mid Tower Cabinet (Black) a good choice?

 

[ibose]

CPU temperatures quickly reach 100 deg and trigger throttling when I do video encoding.

This needs to be looked at. Are you on the latest Intel microcode ? Is this task making use of igpu or dgpu ? Even if it's igpu, I thought quicksync was pretty capable. Is the cooler seated on the CPU properly ?

 

[enc0dex264]

Well 13900k runs superhot even with the intel microcode and no performance enhancement features ON.

You want a good airflow case with atleast a 360mm AIO.

I would say a artic 360mm LF3+Lancool 207 is a good option you should look at.

The Lancool 207 makes sure that both gpu and cpu aio are fed with enough air to keep them cool.

the 207 is alot more compact compared to say 216 or 217.. and since you have a ITX case I feel like that is something that might be important to you.

Edit: you can also get away with a Deepcool CH360.. it will take a 360mm aio in the front.

Edit 2: now that I am thinking about this.. there are some more mff cases coming out pretty soon: deepcool CH270 for eg.

Lian Li A3 is also already available.

Have you considered just changing out the processor and board to a 9800x3d + b650i? it will solve your cpu temp issues.. you get a better gaming cpu and a platform which you might be able to upgrade lateron aswell.

this way you spend the money on a performance upgrade rather than a case or cooler.

 

[unni]

This needs to be looked at. Are you on the latest Intel microcode ? Is this task making use of igpu or dgpu ? Even if it's igpu, I thought quicksync was pretty capable. Is the cooler seated on the CPU properly ?

Sorry, I am not sure about the microcode version (I won't be in my house for another 2 weeks to check it unfortunately). But all software are latest (BIOS, Intel Management Engine, and all Windows drivers).

I use Handbrake for encoding, and always use the h265 CPU encoder (not the h265 nvenc encoder). So, I believe its using the CPU for encoding. The Intel igpu is disabled in BIOS, only nVidia GPU is enabled.

I re-pasted the CPU just last month, unfortunately no improvements in CPU temperature. I have a suspicion if the AIO is dead though. The AIO fans on the top of the case are spinning, but the air it blows out is never warm!

Well 13900k runs superhot even with the intel microcode and no performance enhancement features ON.

You want a good airflow case with atleast a 360mm AIO.

I would say a artic 360mm LF3+Lancool 207 is a good option you should look at.

The Lancool 207 makes sure that both gpu and cpu aio are fed with enough air to keep them cool.

the 207 is alot more compact compared to say 216 or 217.. and since you have a ITX case I feel like that is something that might be important to you.

Thank you. Will checkout Artic 360mm LF3 & Lancool 207.

Lancool 207 shows out of stock in amazon, mdcomputers and vedant though.

 

[dhyan12s]

I have an existing SFFPC build. I would like to upgrade the case to a larger one for better cooling. The current case (LIAN LI A4-H2O) becomes untouchably hot within 10 minutes when I play games (with GPU set to 75% power level, GPU temps are usually under 80 deg). CPU temperatures quickly reach 100 deg and trigger throttling when I do video encoding. I built this PC when I was in a foreign country, and chose this small case for carrying in plane. Now, I am using it in Kerala where room temperature is in the 34-40 deg range with no a/c.

Please suggest a good case (budget: upto Rs. 9000) and a good AIO that would help me in keeping things cooler.

1. What is your budget?
   • Upto 9000 for case
2. What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)
   • CPU - Intel - Core i9-13900K 13th Gen 24 cores 8 P-cores + 16 E-cores 36M Cache, 3 to 5.8 GHz LGA1700 Unlocked Desktop Processor
   • Motherboard - ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-I GAMING WIFI LGA 1700 Mini-ITX Motherboard
   • GPU - NVIDIA - GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6X
   • RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 Series (Intel XMP 3.0) DDR5 RAM 96GB (2x48GB) 6800MT/s CL34-46-46-108 1.35V UDIMM
   • Monitor - Lenovo Legion R27q-30
   • PSU - Cooler Master V850 SFX Gold Full Modular, 850W
   • Cooler - EK Nucleus AIO CR240 Lux D-RGB All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler
   • Case - LIAN LI A4-H2O X4 Black Mini-ITX
3. Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)
   • I will be keeping all, except probably upgrade the AIO to a larger one
4. Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.
   • CPU case
   • AIO if required
5. Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component
   • I am open to upgrade/replace a component if it helps in lowering the CPU/GPU temperatures
6. Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)
   • Kerala, store preferred as I am worried about case damage for online purchases
   • Open to online purchase
7. What is your intended use for this PC/hardware
   • Gaming
   • Converting videos from h264 to h265
   • Running local LLMs
8. Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.
   • No
9. If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?
   • Avatar, GTA5/6, Red Dead Redemption 2, Battlefield, COD
10. What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage
    1. Gaming - 2560 x 1440
    2. Desktop - 2560 x 1440
11. Are you looking to overclock?
    • No
12. Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?
    • Windows 11

hello , how do i dm you here?

i want to ask something about online store in kerala
if there is any good stores in kerala which does shipping

 

[enc0dex264]

Sorry, I am not sure about the microcode version (I won't be in my house for another 2 weeks to check it unfortunately). But all software are latest (BIOS, Intel Management Engine, and all Windows drivers).

I use Handbrake for encoding, and always use the h265 CPU encoder (not the h265 nvenc encoder). So, I believe its using the CPU for encoding. The Intel igpu is disabled in BIOS, only nVidia GPU is enabled.

I re-pasted the CPU just last month, unfortunately no improvements in CPU temperature. I have a suspicion if the AIO is dead though. The AIO fans on the top of the case are spinning, but the air it blows out is never warm!

Thank you. Will checkout Artic 360mm LF3 & Lancool 207.

Lancool 207 shows out of stock in amazon, mdcomputers and vedant though.

Okay.. so you can easily check whether your aio is dead by touching the tubes and the cpu block.. if your cpu block+the tubes going from the cpu block to the radiator are hotter than the radiator itself.. that would imply your pump is not working..

the radiator should always be warmer than the block and tubes itself.

 

[unni]

hello , how do i dm you here?

i want to ask something about online store in kerala
if there is any good stores in kerala which does shipping

Sorry, I am not familiar with any online stores in Kerala. I know only the online stores from other states which were mentioned in TechEnclave threads such as these:

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Thread 'Online PC store deals (PrimeABGB, Vedant, MDcomputers, Clarion, etc.)'

Jul 13, 2023

There are quite a few reliable online PC stores now. Since these stores don't have as many deals as Amazon/Flipkart, and also there are many such stores, I thought it would be a good idea to have a consolidated thread where we can post deals from such sites.
These can include general PC sellers like Prime, Vedant, MD or specialised stores like Headphonzone, Meckeys etc.

I'll start by posting this deal from primeabgb
Adata XPG SX6000 Pro 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD for 3779

Adata XPG SX6000 Pro 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD ASX6000PNP-1TT-C

Boot, load, and transfer faster with the XPG SX6000 Pro PCIe Gen3x4 M.2 2280 solid state drive (SSD).

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Please be...

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31-40k Thread 'Trustable online sellers?'

Dec 18, 2023

I'm about to order 3 major parts for my PC upgrade:
Ryzen 5600
Asus Tuf B550-Plus
32gb Gskill 3600Mhz
Mdcomputers have it but Vedant Computers have the same for like 1000rs less.
ID Depot also have it for a bit less.

Are these websites trustable?

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• Forum: Desktop & PC Buying Advice

Edit: you can also get away with a Deepcool CH360.. it will take a 360mm aio in the front.
Edit 2: now that I am thinking about this.. there are some more mff cases coming out pretty soon: deepcool CH270 for eg.
Lian Li A3 is also already available.

I will checkout Deepcool CH360 / CH270 & Lian Li A3 as well. Thank you.

Have you considered just changing out the processor and board to a 9800x3d + b650i? it will solve your cpu temp issues.. you get a better gaming cpu and a platform which you might be able to upgrade lateron aswell. this way you spend the money on a performance upgrade rather than a case or cooler.

To tell you the truth, I feel like I have already spend a lot of money on this build, and I don't get much time to play games. So, don't want to spend more for the next few years. My main motivation right now is to keep the PC cool so that it won't die earlier because of the heat.

Okay.. so you can easily check whether your aio is dead by touching the tubes and the cpu block.. if your cpu block+the tubes going from the cpu block to the radiator are hotter than the radiator itself.. that would imply your pump is not working..

the radiator should always be warmer than the block and tubes itself.

Thank you. I will test the CPU block and tubes by touch. I have previously checked the top outside part (the part shown in this video at 11:56) of the AIO radiator several times (by touch) when the lower part of the LIAN LI A4-H2O case was untouchably hot, exterior of the radiator was never warm. Unfortunately, I can test only only after 2 weeks when I will be back home.