My intent was to put myself in an airforce pilots shoes and see from their viewpoint to stop with my armchair arguments. No doubt the pilots get training to see what their target is in day and night time, yet they failed. Most probably because they got scared of getting shot down in a rickety old jet not meant for that purpose and lacking in electronics etc. Probably they saw through the worthless effort they had to put for some senile old man who only wanted to hog their entire achievements for himself.
A fair degree of mind reading going on here
People forget the planes have upgraded weapons & radars. Very capable of handling the opponent. The way people are talking you'd think the Apollo moon missions didn't use capable equipment either.
They were not scared, they went in, did the job and returned with zero losses.
What does failed mean here ? they dropped their bombs, some will hit some may miss. This is not fail.
Fail means they were not able to get near and had to turn back. See, i don't think that happened because the next day we broadcasted to the world what happened.
What press conference did the Paks hold about their counter strike. They can't do that for what would they say.
Its funny they ask for evidence of the F16 because they have it already. The f16 was taken out at high altitude and spread over a large area in their territory. The were the ones who were scared. Running back and it took our brave pilot to chase them into their territory to do the job.
See this
tweet by Vishnu Som
Lets take what you're saying as true now. Look at it from another nations point of view. India failed on intelligence, capability and follow through even though they have better more advanced systems than Pakistan. And for some reason only known to them, they chose to roll out 70's jets for the operation which was necessary to instill fear in Pakistan and its terrorist groups as you say. This means that Indian AF was not taking their job seriously and got kicked in their asses.
They have not failed on any of those three counts. Follow through could have been better. We're learning.
Let say you go to slap someone and miss by a lot and only swipe at air. Do you think anyone will take you seriously after that?
Given the Paks wanted to counter strike what better indication do you need ? yes, i hope they take us seriously. The international tolerance for their sort of behaviour is very thin is these days.
Don't you think if really a large number of terrorists died then the writing would have been on the wall more clearly for Pakistan and the JeM and other organizations? I have yet to hear anything from the terrorists in this regard. No threats of taking vengeance on Indian govt or Hindu infidels etc. I would think if any organization lost a large amount of people they would be more vocal about it and not stay silent for a week. These organizations are quick to take responsibility for attacks the same or very next day. Plus I remember that the Taliban in Afghanistan did come out with circulars saying they lost so and so during US drone strikes.
There is no mention of the strike by JeM at all so it never happened on their so called camps.
Large number from the wion report posted is high two digits.
They take credit when they hit people with their cowardly tactics. Some times they take credit for other people's work. When they get owned why would they admit it. The question you should ask is why aren't they denying it. FS mentioned they got a particular individual that was related to Azhar. Why isn't he showing himself if it never happened on their camps.
Maybe they are under strict orders to shut up which would make the line the Paks don't control them a complete lie. Why the gag. Simple. Should they say anything it implies the existence of those camps. Key.
I do not treat as credible western reports that say those camps were not there or empty. They aren't watching that area, we are and very closely. We know how many, where and what is going on there. We've already given this info to the Paks earlier and told them to close them. But they continue to deny their existence.
When they question but where are the casualties, it means they didn't have any human shields in place that they can demonstrate Indian atrocities to the world. So why admit defeat. Given their behaviour in the '71 war this is nothing
As for taking vengeance on Indian govt & Hindu infidels, their attacks on us over the last 4 decades are an implicit statement of just that.
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If you are not questioning what your govt tells you at every turn, then you are not performing even the bare mininum fundamental duties of a citizen of this nation and that makes you an anti-national because you are acting against the better interests of the nation.
A nation is not a hunk of land or its presiding govt. It's all the people that inhabit it.
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Your so called patriotic 'unity' is rooted in hatred for pak or muslims or whatever and not in love for the country or even fellow humans.
They do hate us and by that i mean the military establishment. They never got over the fact that they were not gifted Delhi at independence and have sought to break us up ever since.
