Pulwama attack

[Lord Nemesis]

Can you point out one post in any thread on this entire forum, where somebody claimed that congress is clean as white or at least said that they are not corrupt?

People are saying that BJP is just as dirty or even more dirty than congress and you are butt hurt because your fanatism prevents you from accepting the truth. Have your ever taken the effort to at least look at their signed affidavits on EC website which gives a small glimpse into a fraction of their corruption? Nitin Gadkari filed IT returns stating annual income of 44k in 2009 and 2.4 lac in 2013. He didn't pay a paisa of tax over the years. Does he look like or live like a man who earns 44K per year or even 2.4 lac per year? He spent more than 200 crore each on this son's and daughter's weddings in 2010 and 2016. He hired 50 chartered planes just to bring guests to the weddings. Is that what you mean by being clean? And no, congress being also corrupt does not excuse these people being corrupt if you want to claim that they are better.[DOUBLEPOST=1550675786][/DOUBLEPOST]Looks like a lot of unrelated discussion as piled up in this thread. @6pack, can you move the unrelated posts to another thread?

 

[NotMyRealName]

Wait for the meet to conclude and then we will discuss. MBS is not very welcome in the west right now.

That's because some people put human value and dignity above money. Why are Canada Saudi relations strained right now? Because they took a stand and spoke against human rights injustices. Saudi basically responded by cutting all ties and telling all Saudis in Canada to gtfo.

You're seriously condoning and justifying human rights abuses by all these dictatorships and still think you're right? Wake up, it's 2019. People aren't buying it anymore.

Unrelated to the thread. She's not dead but i suspect we assisted in her repatriation. Why ? because diaspora. In other words not different to what Trump said about MBS. Any leader who does not get that should not be in office.

She tried to escape from oppression and we just handed her back to them. She tried to claim asylum but we ignored international law by doing that. It is illegal to do so. The Saudi girl in Thailand was lucky because she had time to contact the UN. Otherwise they too may have handed her over to the Saudis.

And now in the age of megapixels, the UAE releases a grainy ass tiny photo proving the Princess is alive?

Again, you think Trump should be in office. He clearly said he believes sawman over the entire world and even if he did have khashoggi killed, he doesn't care because his business deals with Saudi trump that. No morals or ethics. Same as you.

The happiest countries on earth are the ones which uphold human dignity and Liberty, not the wealthiest ones.

 

[NotMyRealName]

Has the worst come to pass ? no.

Most certainly yes. Journalists being killed. People being arrested for dissent using sedition charges just for exercising their freedom of speech and because it is against the right wing ideology. When any regime starts restricting people's freedom of speech you automatically know they're the bad guys.

What do you want, concentration camps and gas chambers before you will see it?

Now is the time when it can be stopped and changed. After it's too late, this regime will only be remembered in history, negatively. Clearly people refuse to learn from history.[DOUBLEPOST=1550680424][/DOUBLEPOST]And ask these rabid 'Patriots' still don't care that after calling the all party meet saying he actually wants to hear their opinions, getting opposition support, even Rahul agreed not to bring politics into pulwama, he himself skipped the meet to conduct rallies and bash the opposition and launch his 'vikaas' projects. If this isn't a perfect example of a two-faced feku, i don't know what is.

He clearly doesn't give a crap about pulwama, it's just an electoral opportunity to him.

 

[blr_p]

That's because some people put human value and dignity above money. Why are Canada Saudi relations strained right now? Because they took a stand and spoke against human rights injustices. Saudi basically responded by cutting all ties and telling all Saudis in Canada to gtfo.

You're seriously condoning and justifying human rights abuses by all these dictatorships and still think you're right? Wake up, it's 2019. People aren't buying it anymore.

I mentioned the reasons. You are ok if the Saudis kick our people out because of some HR stand ? Answer that because they can be this flippant. Their own people are treated like dirt, if we see the stories of runaways.

How many Canadians in Saudi ? Does Canada import Saudi oil ? ofc not they have enough of their own from fracking.

I do commend them on their HR stand. If we call ourselves free then this is how we differentiate ourselves from those who are not so free.

Life is complex and grey some times. You can take a black & white stand when you have leverage. Where's ours ?

She tried to escape from oppression and we just handed her back to them. She tried to claim asylum but we ignored international law by doing that. It is illegal to do so. The Saudi girl in Thailand was lucky because she had time to contact the UN. Otherwise they too may have handed her over to the Saudis.

And now in the age of megapixels, the UAE releases a grainy ass tiny photo proving the Princess is alive?

Again, you think Trump should be in office. He clearly said he believes sawman over the entire world and even if he did have khashoggi killed, he doesn't care because his business deals with Saudi trump that. No morals or ethics. Same as you.

The happiest countries on earth are the ones which uphold human dignity and Liberty, not the wealthiest ones.

Trump can say what he wants about MBS but Congress isn't buying it.

She wasn't rying to claim asylum here she wanted to fly elsewhere from Goa and claim asylum there. India was just a transit point. Well, we helped track her and allowed her people to abduct her back. Not our finest moment. But the reasoning is exactly what i said. Are we going to ruin a relationship over a wayward daughter. And not just any daughter but the daughter of the ruler of Abu Dhabi. No we were not.

Trump should be in office on the simple basis that he won in a fair & free election. And unless extenuating reasons are found for him to leave he remains.

Latifah is alive, pretty well sedated. I know that because former Irish President Mary Robinson was sitting next to her. Now Robinson was head of the UN HR community. People say Robinson sold herself cheap just to plug her book. She says she went to help a friend.

 

[blr_p]

Most certainly yes. Journalists being killed. People being arrested for dissent using sedition charges just for exercising their freedom of speech and because it is against the right wing ideology. When any regime starts restricting people's freedom of speech you automatically know they're the bad guys.

What do you want, concentration camps and gas chambers before you will see it?

Now is the time when it can be stopped and changed. After it's too late, this regime will only be remembered in history, negatively. Clearly people refuse to learn from history.

I'm a free speech radical that believes 19(ii) should be removed. People can be charged with sedition if the case is made. But i find also one can jail another on a non-bailable charge because they were offended. This has been the case ever since 19(ii) was introduced in 1951. It has nothing to do with this govt. Anyone can do it and they have done it. One analyst i follow got into hot water in Orissa on this basis alone. Sedition gets applied less often in comparison.

Since 1951 we've had a crippled version of freedom of speech. I prefer the american version. There the red line is incitement. Ours stops well before that.

And ask these rabid 'Patriots' still don't care that after calling the all party meet saying he actually wants to hear their opinions, getting opposition support, even Rahul agreed not to bring politics into pulwama, he himself skipped the meet to conduct rallies and bash the opposition and launch his 'vikaas' projects. If this isn't a perfect example of a two-faced feku, i don't know what is.

He clearly doesn't give a crap about pulwama, it's just an electoral opportunity to him.

This is just Pawar stirring the pot, worked well with you

 

[NotMyRealName]

Nope, there's still plenty of black and white. Like rape and murder. Thing is when you people know there's no way around it ethically, you immediately come out with the fake news or exaggerated news argument. Like you just did saying it's scaremongering.

You are ok if the Saudis kick our people out because of some HR stand ? Answer that because they can be this flippant. Their own people are treated like dirt, if we see the stories of runaways.

I've been telling people for ever not to go to saudi. The money isn't worth it. contributing to that economy is probably the biggest sin. The rest of the gulf countries is heaven in comparison.

She wasn't rying to claim asylum here she wanted to fly elsewhere from Goa and claim asylum there. India was just a transit point. Well, we helped track her and allowed her people to abduct her back. Not our finest moment. But the reasoning is exactly what i said. Are we going to ruin a relationship over a wayward daughter. And not just any daughter but the daughter of the ruler of Abu Dhabi. No we were not.Reply

Latifah is alive, pretty well sedated. I know that because former Irish President Mary Robinson was sitting next to her. Now Robinson was head of the UN HR community. People say Robinson sold herself cheap just to plug her book. She says she went to help a friend.

That's exactly why i said it was illegal according to international law:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-refoulement

https://www.unhcr.org/excom/scip/3ae68ccd10/note-non-refoulement-submitted-high-commissioner.html

Our marcos boarded the boat, and then handed her over to the saudis.

So you're saying money trumps human rights. Well done. Ends justify means.

There's something off about the photos with robinson. In this age, such a low res photo is unheard of (talking about the quality, not size). They're definitely hiding something.

I'm a free speech radical that believes 19(ii) should be removed. People can be charged with sedition if the case is made. But i find also one can jail another on a non-bailable charge because they were offended. This has been the case ever since 19(ii) was introduced in 1951. It has nothing to do with this govt. Anyone can do it and they have done it. One analyst i follow got into hot water in Orissa on this basis alone. Sedition gets applied less often in comparison.

Since 1951 we've had a crippled version of freedom of speech. I prefer the american version. There the red line is incitement. Ours stops well before that.

Nope, people are ARRESTED on sedition under section 124-A, which is obviously thrown out by the court. But it's the interim period, which could be days before the suspect reaches the court, where the real punishment lies. Thrashing by the cops, losing one's standing and respect in society due to being arrested, probably losing one's job etc. The process is the punishment. The law is seldom applied by the court because it's not sedition in the first place. Our law too specifies incitement. But the cops don't consider that when arresting.

This is just Pawar stirring the pot, worked well with you

Nope, it's not just me. First thing is hardly anyone knows about this till i mention it to them. Even bjp supporters are pretty surprised. Everyone thinks since he called for opposition unity and the all party meet, it proceeded like that, with him chairing. If i didn't read the pawar story, i wouldn't have realised either. pawar's motives may be selfish, but the fact is our pm scurried away for his election campaigning and vikaas activity when the rest of the country was tackling the issue. disgrace.

 

[blr_p]

We wont get anything. lol. What do you think? Is India so poor to beg alms from SA?

We already have. Just one project alone in your state is worth $44bn, the Ratnagiri refinery.

The final figure could go up to $100bn (!)

Saudi's will only bargain on oil price and make it harder for India on bargaining anything else now.

That was the view up to 2010 and then they decided to take a broader look at us as a strategic partner. We're the fastest growing oil importer. They want to build refineries and pipelines here. This helps to lock in their share with us. We get 70% of our oil & the gas from the gulf so stability there is more important for us and rest of Asia than for the US. We are one of the few countries on good terms with all the major players in the Gulf.

We're doing projects in KSA as well to the tune of $2bn in various fields, telecoms, pharma, IT, construction, management & consultancy

Keep in mind MBS is young and should for all intents and purposes continue to rule over KSA for the forseeable future. These people hold grudges. Best to keep on their good side.

 

[blr_p]

That's exactly why i said it was illegal according to international law:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-refoulement

https://www.unhcr.org/excom/scip/3ae68ccd10/note-non-refoulement-submitted-high-commissioner.html

Good luck proving it

Our marcos boarded the boat, and then handed her over to the saudis.

I don't think they did but the French guy alleges it. I think it was their guys who jumped in. Coast guard said it was not their op but we escorted them half of the way back. I think our guys are pretty clear on what non-refoulement means.

So you're saying money trumps human rights. Well done. Ends justify means.

We are not sacrificing millions of our peoples lives. Trade offs.

There's something off about the photos with robinson. In this age, such a low res photo is unheard of (talking about the quality, not size). They're definitely hiding something.

She's on tranquilizers. But otherwise i was thinking the same about the camera work on Imran's video. Such amateurs. I have seen better quality phone videos.

Nope, it's not just me. First thing is hardly anyone knows about this till i mention it to them. Even bjp supporters are pretty surprised. Everyone thinks since he called for opposition unity and the all party meet, it proceeded like that, with him chairing. If i didn't read the pawar story, i wouldn't have realised either. pawar's motives may be selfish, but the fact is our pm scurried away for his election campaigning and vikaas activity when the rest of the country was tackling the issue. disgrace.

He's the only state leader in the entire country cribbing about it. Why ? Modi visited his state.

 

[6pack]

Looks like a lot of unrelated discussion as piled up in this thread. @6pack, can you move the unrelated posts to another thread?

Me ex-mod, not a mod any more. You'll have to ask the super mods to clean up the thread.

@blr_p, I doubt NDTV would go and misquote PTI when they are copying word to word. I think PTI has all the news only if we login and I don't have any login id or password to prove anything about what they quoted.

As to whether Modi was talking about punishing the people who pelted stones, no. Didn't you read the literal translation I did of the video in my last post? He's talking about punishing people who mock the train and its engineers. He didn't talk anything about the train being pelted etc.

Regarding the $100B in IT field, I saw that video yesterday night. Look at the wording on it. Opportunity to invest 100B. Its not we will invest $100B. So its like share money now. Company is trading at 10 rupees but it has opportunity to reach 100. No one knows when it will reach 100.

Saw Modi's face too when the camera guy was taking close ups of him. Saw a feeling of being let down really badlly. IT sector is not the place you want investments in the country. Modi is all about making hardware in India. Software is not make in india. All the software companies will do is pay less taxes and give their ceo's multi-million salaries now.

$44B Ratnagiri project with Mukesh Ambani... Cant fault him since Reliance has the largest oil refining capacity in the world today and he's expecting to double its capacity in coming years. But you see the trend here? everything huge going to a select large group of companies in India. IT sector too - mostly it would be select few top most IT companies.

 

[blr_p]

Me ex-mod, not a mod any more. You'll have to ask the super mods to clean up the thread.

@blr_p, I doubt NDTV would go and misquote PTI when they are copying word to word. I think PTI has all the news only if we login and I don't have any login id or password to prove anything about what they quoted.

Yes, it is annoying how PTI does not allow access to articles on their website. As for misquoting i'd not put it past a private channel to do this when it comes to politics. Meaning it would be typical of them to do just that. Situation is even worse in the US on this point and their lousy media.

As to whether Modi was talking about punishing the people who pelted stones, no. Didn't you read the literal translation I did of the video in my last post? He's talking about punishing people who mock the train and its engineers. He didn't talk anything about the train being pelted etc.

I read yours, now read another

“The way some people are targeting the train, making fun of it, is very sad,” Modi said. “People write to me telling me that these comments are an insult to engineers and technicians involved in the project. People should remain alert against such persons.”

People write to him...meaning he is quoting what others say as opposed to advocating which is not what i understood from your NDTV link

“Is it appropriate to make fun of technicians and engineers who work day and night for the country?” he asked the audience. “Should those who mock in this way be spared? Should they not receive the right punishment at the right time?”

qualifiers. right punishment, right time. Is he still quoting what some one else said to him or is he advocating it himself ?

I don't even understand what this means. What is the right punishment and when is the right time

Reason i was circumspect about NDTV quoting PTI is PTI news is generally dead pan, no masala compared to any and every private news network which uses liberal amounts. If you get what i mean.

If all you follow is private media and then come across a PTI article it seems as if the reporter was on sedatives.

PTI like other wireline services deserves the term reporter whereas most private media are journalists. That latter term is meant to be perjorative. People that didn't become activists turn into journalists. There was a time when correspondents reported what they saw or heard now a days they throw in their opinion and spin things.

Regarding the $100B in IT field, I saw that video yesterday night. Look at the wording on it. Opportunity to invest 100B. Its not we will invest $100B. So its like share money now. Company is trading at 10 rupees but it has opportunity to reach 100. No one knows when it will reach 100.

True and this will be worked on in the next couple of years. The opportunity is there to invest $100bn over the next couple of years. I don't see why this cannot happen as the Saudis want to lock in their share with us. Oil prices aren't going up and we need a lot of it.

Even when you get MoU's signed it can take quite a while. Take CPEC. in 2013 the Chinese announce they will invest $42bn. Then in 2016 that figure rises to $60bn. How much has shown up to date five years later ? $20bn

Paks can't absorb too much so soon and there will be differences over terms. Maha's GDP alone is larger than Pakistan. So Maha could absorb how much ? 30-40bn over five years without getting into trouble. More ?

$44B Ratnagiri project with Mukesh Ambani... Cant fault him since Reliance has the largest oil refining capacity in the world today and he's expecting to double its capacity in coming years. But you see the trend here? everything huge going to a select large group of companies in India. IT sector too - mostly it would be select few top most IT companies.

Ambanis have refineries so they'd be in the running. There's also talk of building strategic oil reserves. Music to the ears of the Saudis. A reserve like this adds an extra tool to moderate price rises and gives a cushion. I've heard this for over ten years now but it requires a suitable geology to store oil in the ground. Reserve also has to be properly located to be effective.

 

[blr_p]

Why? Its true that the train was made in India and its true that it broke down twice before its trial run. it means somewhere some corners were cut to speed up the production or something got overlooked. Naturally people will laugh at the company making it when the train cant even do 40KM speeds without breaking down when its touted to do 200KM. Just shows the quality of the train and the company that made it.

Just because people mock engineers does not mean they should be punished. And this PM post is the highest post in the country. Do you thing anyone holding that post should talk such petty stuff as jailing people for mocking on facebook or other sites? It just shows how petty he can get. He should have just shut up and ignored such people and instead said, even though people are mocking the engineers, i am hopeful that the engineers will show those mocking them that India is not far behind in technology and build a better train than this one in coming years. Guy himself is negative and talks about punishing negative people. ironic.

What i can say is he is questioning people's criticisms because they are demoralising.

See, this is typically how Indians interpret criticism. It must not be provocative, it must not be offensive, it must not be demoralising. Because people are soo sensitive.

BS!

There is no requirement that any criticism comply with those requirements. Otherwise there is no scope for any improvement. The manner in which a ciritcism is made is irrelevant.

I'm completely ok with it even if the intent is malicious, deliberately misleading or whatever. Just expect to be challenged in that case.

The only important question that matters is whether in this country, you can say it or not.

 

[6pack]

What is the right punishment and when is the right time

no one knows except the pm.

What i can say is he is questioning people's criticisms because they are demoralising.

why should he take criticisms to heart? just ignore it. will he run after everyone who criticizes everything any govt or psu unit does now? and how will he do it? this is like telling people not to criticize anything his govt or any govt body does whether it be good or bad.

The only important question that matters is whether in this country, you can say it or not.

you get our point now. who decides that? shouldn't it be freedom to voice our opinion over some politicians hurt ego? today this guy. tomorrow RG or congress will get hurt and start complaining that bjp is mocking him and the right punishment should be given at the right time. how will you bjp supporters interpret that line as? once one person opens this can of worms there's no end to it. anyone and everyone will get offended by the slightest remark made by anyone and try to get that person punished. this is like kindergarten level politics now.

 

[NotMyRealName]

you get our point now. who decides that? shouldn't it be freedom to voice our opinion over some politicians hurt ego? today this guy. tomorrow RG or congress will get hurt and start complaining that bjp is mocking him and the right punishment should be given at the right time. how will you bjp supporters interpret that line as? once one person opens this can of worms there's no end to it. anyone and everyone will get offended by the slightest remark made by anyone and try to get that person punished. this is like kindergarten level politics now.

He's just contradicting himself, dunno if he realises it or not. I had decided long ago not to engage on these topics, but i keep slipping. Need to follow @Lord Nemesis levels of discipline.

On the one hand he says he strongly believes in freedom of speech, and on the other, supports modi and the bjp. These two things are mutually exclusive.

 

[blr_p]

no one knows except the pm.

And ? what is he waiting for. Until some one gets reeled in this is just hot air.

A meaningless statement that too made at a political rally where pols are known to make meaningless statements. It's going to get wilder until the model code kicks in a month before the elections.

why should he take criticisms to heart? just ignore it. will he run after everyone who criticizes everything any govt or psu unit does now? and how will he do it? this is like telling people not to criticize anything his govt or any govt body does whether it be good or bad.

You think people are going to keep quiet. Really ?

You think the media will comply. Half of the problems they scream about aren't even problems but still the Nation needs to know

If people cannot express what they want they will throw whomever that isn't delivering out. We are not shy like that.

Indira, Rajiv, Narasimha, Vajpayee, SM Krishna, Naidu, the list goes on and will keep going on.

you get our point now. who decides that? shouldn't it be freedom to voice our opinion over some politicians hurt ego? today this guy. tomorrow RG or congress will get hurt and start complaining that bjp is mocking him and the right punishment should be given at the right time. how will you bjp supporters interpret that line as? once one person opens this can of worms there's no end to it. anyone and everyone will get offended by the slightest remark made by anyone and try to get that person punished. this is like kindergarten level politics now.

Things have improved since one kid decided to take on the system and won. This is a rule of law country, it means you can challenge the govt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shreya_Singhal_v._Union_of_India

I remember that incident where these two girls got rousted because they said on facebook that they would be inconnvenienced due to Bal Thackeray's funeral procession. Well, that sort of thing cannot happen anymore

Didn't stop pols saying they will amend laws to bring it back again through the back door. They did it and its going to be challenged as well.

 

[6pack]

He's just contradicting himself, dunno if he realises it or not. I had decided long ago not to engage on these topics, but i keep slipping. Need to follow @Lord Nemesis levels of discipline.

On the one hand he says he strongly believes in freedom of speech, and on the other, supports modi and the bjp. These two things are mutually exclusive.

i just realised how pathetic the BJP is. whole past 10+ years or so they were mocking and name calling Congress and their members with taunts like pappu, Italian, foreigners, desh dhrohi (ironic), mute pm or spineless pm and what not. I'm not going to source or claim they said these things 100% but I think they said these things during elections and other times. Just look at these people. Ready to mock everyone but themselves. They cry foul when they get mocked in return by people and want to punish them. If they can dish it, they should take it as well, but these pathetic party members starts crying the moment someone does the same to them. how low this party can get i cant understand.

 

[blr_p]

He's just contradicting himself, dunno if he realises it or not. I had decided long ago not to engage on these topics, but i keep slipping. Need to follow @Lord Nemesis levels of discipline.

On the one hand he says he strongly believes in freedom of speech, and on the other, supports modi and the bjp. These two things are mutually exclusive.

No contradiction, what's happening with this govt on speech isn't any different in a meaningful way with ones from the past. With social media going rampant i see no way to turn things back.

Supports BJP so long as BJP is in office. If they don't manage to hold on i will then have to support what comes next.

 

[blr_p]

i just realised how pathetic the BJP is. whole past 10+ years or so they were mocking and name calling Congress and their members with taunts like pappu, Italian, foreigners, desh dhrohi (ironic), mute pm or spineless pm and what not. I'm not going to source or claim they said these things 100% but I think they said these things during elections and other times. Just look at these people. Ready to mock everyone but themselves. They cry foul when they get mocked in return by people and want to punish them. If they can dish it, they should take it as well, but these pathetic party members starts crying the moment someone does the same to them. how low this party can get i cant understand.

Which is why you shouldn't be taking what is said at these rallies seriously. They will allege all sorts of nonsense that their competitors are doing, done or will do. The people most troubled by this funnily enough are other pols as its borderline defamatory if not way across the line.

The one saving grace is it hasn't reached the lows seen in the US. There is still some level of decency left.

 

[Rockfella]

The trouble here is China. China is like a mad dog. If India attacks Pakistan, China will attack India from another side and our forces will be fighting two wars at the same time. Notice even after all this, China still wont allow JeM to be named as a terrorist organization. Because if it does that they lose access to Pakistan's ports they spent money to build. Even the rest of the West wont allow India to do anything since they don't have anything to gain here. They've already looted the place dry. So they have no more interest and can keep telling India to keep calm for ever. If Pakistan had oil or rare natural resources or something they would have attacked it years back.

The only resource Pakistan has is terrorist training camps. The West wont allow to shut those down since their arms industries make money off those. Afghan, Syrian rebels take training there and go back and buy weapons from USA, Britain, Germany, France etc. They don't want India meddling in their thriving business model of making war and arming both sides with their weapons.

If you noticed, both Russia and USA sell higher version weapons to one side of India - Pakistan to keep a stalemate. If India buys long range sniper rifles from Russia, USA gives longer range sniper rifles to Pakistan. China sells long range missiles to Pakistan since India has started making our own long range missiles. Why does Pakistan need 1000KM range missiles when entire India is less than 800KM range? Does not matter. This is just posturing. China wants to be one step above India always. They're using Pakistan like a pawn and call them a friend. Pakistan will befriend anyone that gives them money and military supplies. China, Saudi Arabia, etc.

It is all about business and power struggle.

 

[blr_p]

you get our point now. who decides that? shouldn't it be freedom to voice our opinion over some politicians hurt ego? today this guy. tomorrow RG or congress will get hurt and start complaining that bjp is mocking him and the right punishment should be given at the right time. how will you bjp supporters interpret that line as? once one person opens this can of worms there's no end to it. anyone and everyone will get offended by the slightest remark made by anyone and try to get that person punished. this is like kindergarten level politics now.

Not the last we've seen from this woman

https://tech.economictimes.indiatim...-move-to-intercept-data-on-computers/67261828

Singhal said that while the government has a case when it comes to preventing fake news and rumours from causing law and order situations in the country, tighter controls are needed to make sure there is no misuse.

That is the problem and if you followed Sumitra's video i posted earlier there are even defence implications from social media.

 

[blr_p]

It is all about business and power struggle.

Time to get this thread back on track

Gadkari tweets on 'stopping' water sharing with Pakistan, govt clarifies

I am waiting to see whether this is more than just bluster. What has stopped us from doing precisely this earlier was the Paks alleged that run of the mill dams with zero storage were the exact opposite. The reason there are no projects on our side of any description is the Paks kept opposing them.

The intent is to pressure them and that is fine.