Pune: Bachelors not allowed in Housing Societies

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blr_p said:
Sounds like you're in some sort of PG setup.

The landlord lives in the same house so she wants it kept prim & proper.

Tho OP was talking about rented apts, where you get an apt for yourself, course it costs a great a deal more than a PG but then you get more freedom or not as indicated in OP's first post.
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Nope. Its not a PG setup. PG for male's is rare here. What I am talking about are two room sets constructed on either side of the main house though they are connected to the walls of the main house. Each of the houses has a separate entrance, its own separate wiring for electricity and sub meters for the same as well as separate toilets and everything. Aunty does not arrange for meals or any other facility. Actually she hardly stays at the house. Its actually like any other individual house you rent, only that these were mostly rented out by working bachelors. Rent is not low either at 5.2k/ per month with electricity and water charges in addition to that. Its no different from a rented apartment with the only difference that with apartments there are a lot more people living inside a single compound making your habits/actions much more mindful to others around you.
 
NinByChoice said:
I fully support the move to keep bachelors out of housing societies. I wish their houses could be isolated in a walled part of the city or in a huge asylum of some sort.

My observations in Bangalore (as an owner having had bachelors tenants, lived with bachelors roommates, having visited houses of bachelor friends. Most of these dudes were engineers from decent colleges/schools, earning well, middle class background, working in reputed IT companies).

Most bachelors are domestic retards. They have no idea on how to take care of themselves or keep their dwelling clean. They would probably sleep in their own shit if possible. As a owner, it pains to see ones house maintained like a sty. Reasons for this arent clear, but probably because they spent their teenage lives in a cram school (in Hyderabad/Kota) or because their parent were also morons (moron parents tend to create moron kids). They should have been learning social skills instead.

A few bachelors are nice, just that they are a extremely small minority. As a house owner looking to rent his place, its too much trouble to investigate if a potential bachelor tenant is in this minority. A safe way is to keep these turds out altogether.

On a more disturbing note, these turds are now getting married. Im seeing newly wed couples also continuing the dirty lifestyle. Earlier, the wife had no other work than to cleanup, after the husband goes around creating a mess in the house. With working women this is not possible. Dirty bachelors. Few years later - dirty couples.
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ROFL!!! I totally understand :P
I wouldnt give my house to any half retard like the ones we are talking about here! I or rather we have personally seen moron retards spoil good houses thanks to the way they live. I would blame their life style and the way they were brought up.
As a house owner I wouldnt want my house to become a pigsty thanks to the way some people live.

No names and no places but this is exactly what happened to me,
I was at a friends place Last night 2am I had to pee.

Options were -
clogged up toilet of this house or pee on the road :P
this was a house with 4 Bachelors sleeping on each other :P
 
It is the classic case of one rotten fruit ruining the whole crate. Coupled with our perception driven society this was bound to happen. Not sure about the non-native bachelor : native, ratio in Pune, but it seems a lot of bachelors migrate to the city for study/work/career opportunities. So what happens. They basically go berserk, unchecked by a family structure, and thrive on a degraded life style. I am sure this is the age group between 23-27 (low maturity, not seen life), which has created the demarcation. Immaturity with no sense of society, and pure selfishness are the characteristics. Habits which they would only dream off, within a family, are fulfilled with batch mates. Sad. It is not about not having a family values, or being taught incorrect, the leash has been removed, and the roughness/crudeness surfaces. Another factor which is nourishing this culture even more: greater buying power within lower age groups. Not that it is bad, heck it is good for the country, but people have more money now, they do not have to think twice before spending. (Booze, bikes, spend thrift, basic rent).

But every Yin has a Yang. I have seen equally opposite 'bachelor groups' who are well mannered, and live a life just like the rest of the residents. Keep the music low, no rowdy behavior, maintain somber attitude. It is this tiny minority which will suffer. As Iron Maiden once said "only the good die you, the evil seems to live for ever". Classic, case, of society ruining itself --- and being forced to create strict rules/regulations. Prevention beats the cure, and that is what Pune has decided.
 
NinByChoice said:
I fully support the move to keep bachelors out of housing societies. I wish their houses could be isolated in a walled part of the city or in a huge asylum of some sort.

My observations in Bangalore (as an owner having had bachelors tenants, lived with bachelors roommates, having visited houses of bachelor friends. Most of these dudes were engineers from decent colleges/schools, earning well, middle class background, working in reputed IT companies).

Most bachelors are domestic retards. They have no idea on how to take care of themselves or keep their dwelling clean. They would probably sleep in their own shit if possible. As a owner, it pains to see ones house maintained like a sty. Reasons for this arent clear, but probably because they spent their teenage lives in a cram school (in Hyderabad/Kota) or because their parent were also morons (moron parents tend to create moron kids). They should have been learning social skills instead.

A few bachelors are nice, just that they are a extremely small minority. As a house owner looking to rent his place, its too much trouble to investigate if a potential bachelor tenant is in this minority. A safe way is to keep these turds out altogether.

On a more disturbing note, these turds are now getting married. Im seeing newly wed couples also continuing the dirty lifestyle. Earlier, the wife had no other work than to cleanup, after the husband goes around creating a mess in the house. With working women this is not possible. Dirty bachelors. Few years later - dirty couples.
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lol dude that is why people get domestic help.

Besides, from what I can tell families would also do all sorts of stuff to the house like putting nails on the walls, changing electrical sockets etc. One of my bosses actually clogged up his toilet drain pipe coz he kept flushing condoms into it :S and he's been married for a few decades.
 
I guess it depends

I have lived in rented acco in both Chennai and Pune...

In both places, My house owners have actually been kinda glad they rented it out to me instead of a family (who in their perception may have kids peeing on their walls or crayon drawings sketched on the house walls)

(I guess an automated recurring rent debit via EFT on the 1st of each month also helped)

And in both places I have had friends (both male & female) coming over for a drink or two or female friends coming over and staying for extended

periods of time...

PS: Having said that, I currently stay in a 4 BR RH all by myself, so perhaps I am perceived as a low risk loony bin by my neighbors compared to a group of 3-4 alpha males staying in a single apt
 
NinByChoice said:
its too much trouble to investigate if a potential bachelor tenant is in this minority. A safe way is to keep these turds out altogether.
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I'd say your biggest headache would be dealing with the complaints of the neighbours ie other owners like you. And its mostly to do with nuisance and noise. Blasting music at night, crazy & very loud women yapping & giggling, that sort of thing.

And there is no way you can predict this at all, i've seen types that outwardly look very straight but have a wild side or more likely have wild friends to compensate or ones that look like trouble that actually are very polite .

The cleanliness stuff dissapears after a white-wash. Hole's in the walls puttied over. Furniture damage is trickier but then you put these things in your contract anyway. If it aint coming back in the same way it went out someone is paying the difference.

asingh said:
I am sure this is the age group between 23-27 (low maturity, not seen life), which has created the demarcation. Immaturity with no sense of society, and pure selfishness are the characteristics. Habits which they would only dream off, within a family, are fulfilled with batch mates. Sad. It is not about not having a family values, or being taught incorrect, the leash has been removed, and the roughness/crudeness surfaces. Another factor which is nourishing this culture even more: greater buying power within lower age groups.
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Those years are supposed to be your wild years. This is the only time you have the cash to blow on whatever the hell takes your fancy. Before that you were skint, after you get married you will be even more skint. My advice to ppl in this age grp is to spend it as loudly and in as drunken a stupor humanly possible :D

Just do it someplace else !

Lord Nemesis said:
Nope. Its not a PG setup. PG for male's is rare here. What I am talking about are two room sets constructed on either side of the main house though they are connected to the walls of the main house. Each of the houses has a separate entrance, its own separate wiring for electricity and sub meters for the same as well as separate toilets and everything. Aunty does not arrange for meals or any other facility. Actually she hardly stays at the house. Its actually like any other individual house you rent, only that these were mostly rented out by working bachelors. Rent is not low either at 5.2k/ per month with electricity and water charges in addition to that. Its no different from a rented apartment with the only difference that with apartments there are a lot more people living inside a single compound making your habits/actions much more mindful to others around you.
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It just that the conditions imposed on you seem as restrictive as a PG type accomodation and yet you pay much more. Getting a flat together with some friends is riskier but more fun. But then that's what a lot of others have been doing and why this thread got created.

All i can say is if ppl are willing to pay then places will be had. Just going to have to hunt harder for them.
 
chiron said:
. One of my bosses actually clogged up his toilet drain pipe coz he kept flushing condoms into it :S and he's been married for a few decades.
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what is weird is that you actually know about this :P
 
^^ Interesting, isn't it.

I have read all the rsponses and this has been a very good sociological experience for me, basically the whole problem and its solutions have been spoken by good souls here, I have seen, lived, rented out and had a PG setup earlier so according to me, the situation is not so grim.

I still think it is not all that bad, there maybe some isolated examples of this sort and maybe they were justified too but this cannot be generalized.

but this has been very good reading the various experiences and thoughts.
 
Okay let me add a bit from my side.

I shifted to Noida when my apartment wasnt ready, so I had to live in a PG for a month or so. My room mate turned out to be a moron. He kept the room absolute crap. Everytime fellow PG mates used to land up in my room, they used to be surprised as my part used to be spic span while his part was filthy. Repeatedly asked him to keep room clean but of no avail, thankfully I shifted to my flat a month later.

The other part, our second apartment was given out for rent and it was very clear that it will rented out only to families which turned out to be pathetic decision IMO. Except for one family every family turned out to be filthy morons. Fed up we gave it to a lady who runs and manages girls PG in the apartment and thankfully she has maintained it quite well, although I dont get to check the flat( I am a guy you see :P, but then my sis/mom regularly do land up there) and they are quite impressed.

Other part of the story, my apartment is in sector-62, home to many engg colleges and institutions, offices(IT/non-IT) and letting out to bachelors has been majorly harrowing experience. Majority of them used to get drunk and create nuisance in week-end, one of them stabbed other in a fight after getting drunk and the cops were involved. After all this RWA decided enough is enough, all the flat owners were asked not to let out to bachelors in groups. Blanket ban was imposed. But yes poeple do rent it out to bachelor groups but with very strict terms and conditions and with proper checks(someone credible has to vouch for them and that person is also made liable) generally the property agent has to vouch and he takes due care. After all this is his bread and butter, it has been peace since the one and only incident.

I for one would support the minority of the bachelors who live like humans.
 
kippu said:
what is weird is that you actually know about this :P
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Well, he got the local petty contractor to do the plumbing and so the story spread pretty fast. Thankfully, I wasn't assigned to the colony amc work or I might have had to oversee the job myself :D
 
setuniket said:
Okay let me add a bit from my side.

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Other part of the story, my apartment is in sector-62, home to many engg colleges and institutions, offices(IT/non-IT) and letting out to bachelors has been majorly harrowing experience. Majority of them used to get drunk and create nuisance in week-end, one of them stabbed other in a fight after getting drunk and the cops were involved. After all this RWA decided enough is enough, all the flat owners were asked not to let out to bachelors in groups. Blanket ban was imposed. But yes poeple do rent it out to bachelor groups but with very strict terms and conditions and with proper checks(someone credible has to vouch for them and that person is also made liable) generally the property agent has to vouch and he takes due care. After all this is his bread and butter, it has been peace since the one and only incident.

I for one would support the minority of the bachelors who live like humans.
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There is the solution. Don't rent an apartment to more than 2 bachelors. That should contain the nuisance.
 
sabby said:
There is the solution. Don't rent an apartment to more than 2 bachelors. That should contain the nuisance.
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Does not work that way since say if it is a 1BHK then 2 to 3 ppl stay, if 2 BHK then 4 people will stay else it really wont be possible for just two guys to pay the entire rent.
 
sabby said:
There is the solution. Don't rent an apartment to more than 2 bachelors. That should contain the nuisance.
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Sabby the problem is that these are 2 BHK apartments and the rent is around 11K or so, excluding electricity which is around 1K more(water is fixed Rs 100 PM). So at least 6 bachelors live together to reduce expenses. Thankfully after one incident there has been very strict regulations on bachelors, they do live but like other normal people(having retired vella people in RWA helps a lot:bleh:)
 
@raks n setuniket

I know. :( But at least that is better than not giving rent to any bachelor at all.
 
sabby said:
@raks n setuniket

I know. :( But at least that is better than not giving rent to any bachelor at all.
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Yes but no one would want to stay at these terms. Infact i have seen cases here where in a 2BHK which can comfortably house 4 people and even owner has mentioned not more than 4 people should stay, still in some cases 5-6 people stay (1-2 extra) without the owner's knowledge, primary reason being that individual share of rent and expenses decrease. :(
 
Sorry for bumping up an old thread, but 3 years down the line, has this gotten worse?

(i must note, many of the posters in this thread have now gotten hitched :P )
 
Vince said:
Sorry for bumping up an old thread, but 3 years down the line, has this gotten worse?

(i must note, many of the posters in this thread have now gotten hitched :P )
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Me one of them. And things have not changed. Still bachelors are not allowed in many societies but with more areas coming up, there are more options for bachelors.
The only thing that has changed is my bank balance diminishing faster than before as now i cannot share rent with anyone and have to pay everything myself.
 
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