The only comparison to look at here is for RE4. Says enough.
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YeAhx
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The only reason I didn't focus too much on it is because then I would be doing the same thing NVIDIA is doing. Cherry-picking.
I don't know why RE4 has such minimal upgrade in performance for all generations, Maybe it doesn't like RT running or maybe instead it's the engine's limitation.
Because they haven't used DLSS/frame gen in that particular benchmark, if you notice. It's a much fairer comparison.
lambda
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Two different posts/comments merged into one.
But yes, the spacing is intentional, makes it easier to read.
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lambda
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We are just arguing about the quality of these frames. It's a software feature at the end of the day.
With that said, the 5060ti looks like a decent card to me in isolation. You get the Nvidia compute stack (CUDA), 16GB VRAM and the latest tech.
The next decent jump is 5070ti purely in terms of compute with a proper upgrade being the 5090 with 32GB VRAM.
But again, if you only cared about compute/CUDA then the 4060ti 16GB has been available for years.
YeAhx
Galvanizer
Holy crap dude you are right, How come I didn't notice that. I knew this Multi Frame Gen 4X mode was doing the heavy lifting but this much? At this point it looks like they included the RE4 benchmark just to not catch flak when people find out RTX 5060ti isn't that good without DLSS4. In a "look guys we included a non-DLSS4 benchmark as well, we weren't lying" way.
3060 would have been such a good card if it had performance of 3060ti.
You are right about one thing though, NVIDIA won't be doomed because of DLSS (or whatever new thing they feature next). They have simply gained too good of a market and are large enough to push R&D to stay that way. It feels like AMD is just one step behind, always but it's a bit more than that. CUDA is definitely one of the reason. I also think NVIDIA knows they can get by without higher VRAM on their consumer cards so they are doing so, If need be they will up the capacity to counter their competitors line up.
lambda
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AMD is nowhere near Nvidia in terms of a proper compute stack. ROCm is largely a joke and not an industry standard, just look at their official documentation.
On the consumer side only the 7900 series of GPUs are supported.
System requirements (Linux) — ROCm installation (Linux)
System requirements for AMD ROCm
Compare this to Nvidia - https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-gpus
Infact the xx60 series of GPUs occasionally beat AMDs high end in Blender rendering due to abysmal software support.
Gaming is ok on AMD but they lacked a proper DLSS competitor until recently. And no, open-source driver stack or whatever is not an alternative to a fully functioning closed source stack.
Nv 5060ti is a good compute card on the consumer side for a okish price. AMD does not have a competitor since the 9070 series is not officially supported in ROCm (sure, it'll work but no official support).
