I'll tell you the problem, and that is the business motive.
Take for example the statement on this page: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 800 W Power Supply Review | Hardware Secrets, and read carefully how Corsair decided to sell a 80Plus Gold unit as 80Plus Silver on their own discretion. That is the ethic of business. Go back a few pages and see how a CM PSU retailing for almost 11k in India fails ripple tests (and yes, I do have PCI peripherals that need that rail). Take some time and look at reviews - Seasonic has the most advanced platform today and none of the others have caught up yet.
What Corsair does is uprate their PSUs more than manufacturers. So they will want a unit that overloads very well, runs nice in hotboxes, and outlasts all kinds of abuse. This is common to all their suppliers, though CWT and Seasonic are their key vendors. Typically CWT platform is a little inferior to Seasonic across the board, even when supplying to the same brand. This is similar to the case of Samsung vs. Toshiba NAND in the Macbooks. Both are governed by the same set of specs, but Toshiba comes out ahead in real performance. You have to know in any race there is only one winner, and that is the case here too. Delta, Seventeam, CWT, Enhance/Sparkle and FSP are still behind the curve on PSU design compared to Seasonic, who seem to be holding all the cards now.
The reason that CM sells crap is because people buy it. The reason that Corsair doesn't is because they want to build a great brand (I assume). You also have to factor in the issue that most Chinese manufacturers have very limited communication skills and a mainstream, English-speaking brand like CM gives a large base of indigenous manufacturers an outlet to the world. Do note that CM is a very old brand, from before the time Amazon, Newegg, eBay and Alibaba made the PC industry what it is. They earned their chops in the world of brick and mortar marketing, though that strength sapped any energy from doing diligence on the product side.
Don't get me wrong, the AX850 is an absolutely fantastic PSU, the Seasonic X-850 basically is a little quieter and slightly more efficient, and that was a little important to me. Also, it cost about 1500 less, which was most important of all.
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That is semantics. The fact is that dollar for dollar no CM PSU is able to meet the specifications or promises made on their labels, the RPP was the only one to have done so. Even the Silent Gold series fails multiple times on various tests. CM has stopped sending PSUs to HWS for review after the constant thrashing they received, look at a few reviews of the GX, the Extreme and the Silent Gold.
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VS450 is a CWT design, as is the HX850 and the HX1050.
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Take for example the statement on this page: Cooler Master Silent Pro Gold 800 W Power Supply Review | Hardware Secrets, and read carefully how Corsair decided to sell a 80Plus Gold unit as 80Plus Silver on their own discretion. That is the ethic of business. Go back a few pages and see how a CM PSU retailing for almost 11k in India fails ripple tests (and yes, I do have PCI peripherals that need that rail). Take some time and look at reviews - Seasonic has the most advanced platform today and none of the others have caught up yet.
What Corsair does is uprate their PSUs more than manufacturers. So they will want a unit that overloads very well, runs nice in hotboxes, and outlasts all kinds of abuse. This is common to all their suppliers, though CWT and Seasonic are their key vendors. Typically CWT platform is a little inferior to Seasonic across the board, even when supplying to the same brand. This is similar to the case of Samsung vs. Toshiba NAND in the Macbooks. Both are governed by the same set of specs, but Toshiba comes out ahead in real performance. You have to know in any race there is only one winner, and that is the case here too. Delta, Seventeam, CWT, Enhance/Sparkle and FSP are still behind the curve on PSU design compared to Seasonic, who seem to be holding all the cards now.
The reason that CM sells crap is because people buy it. The reason that Corsair doesn't is because they want to build a great brand (I assume). You also have to factor in the issue that most Chinese manufacturers have very limited communication skills and a mainstream, English-speaking brand like CM gives a large base of indigenous manufacturers an outlet to the world. Do note that CM is a very old brand, from before the time Amazon, Newegg, eBay and Alibaba made the PC industry what it is. They earned their chops in the world of brick and mortar marketing, though that strength sapped any energy from doing diligence on the product side.
Don't get me wrong, the AX850 is an absolutely fantastic PSU, the Seasonic X-850 basically is a little quieter and slightly more efficient, and that was a little important to me. Also, it cost about 1500 less, which was most important of all.
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They don't exist any-more in the supply chain (get replaced with GX series units) unless you still have one powering your RIG.
That is semantics. The fact is that dollar for dollar no CM PSU is able to meet the specifications or promises made on their labels, the RPP was the only one to have done so. Even the Silent Gold series fails multiple times on various tests. CM has stopped sending PSUs to HWS for review after the constant thrashing they received, look at a few reviews of the GX, the Extreme and the Silent Gold.
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Corsair changed its OEM's from Seasonic some time back and have been under the scanner for the same reason for diluting quality (VS series anyone). .
VS450 is a CWT design, as is the HX850 and the HX1050.
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AX850 is identical internally to the Seasonic X-850 and is manufactured by Seasonic under Corsair's supervision. Itis probably the only instance in the long partnership between Corsair and Seasonic that the latter's example has performed better than the Corsair-branded unit.Ok got that point.
Then who has made my AX 850 :scared14: ?