CPU/Mobo Suggestion - Intel Xeon Processor E3-1275 v/s Intel i7 3770

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All what you have written below apart from the last sentence is just too philosophical and needs to go in the GT section:)...

I have given you the hard facts by searching the top sites like ebay, Amazon, Newegg. V1 are either higher priced or equal. Not even in 1 site I have seen the price being lower than v2.
Secondly, as I asked before, going by your logic do I get such discounts for all Sandy bridge processors??

Thirdly, All reviews in all sites show Xeon to be performing on par with i7 and better at rendering (and thats why Xeon's are expensive)... + they have ECC support and additional features.

I really fail to understand, why u NO Support XEON :mad: and against it even with so many good features

Why u so against XEON my man:D...and please do give some good logical answers rather than ' the WE INDIAN's Sh*t':blackalien:

terence_fdes said:
Sorry @vercetti ... I yam a stubborn 'ol wizened nut & I ain't giving up yet.

I could write my Ph.D Thesis on - "How we Indian's love DISCOUNT'S & one-day 'grab-it-a-lifetime' offers" - This is what clouds our brains and all rational thought processes. We are then ready to abandon all and sundry - buddies, colleagues, family & loved ones - BECAUSE our soul is SOLD to this DISCOUNT.

We forget easily that the fundamental premise of a Discount is applied ONLY to "outdated/phased-out/unsold stocks/inventories" ..... the tech-specs still appeal (although it's only on paper). Would these EVER have a re-sale value ........... (unless another gullible bloke is found, who has'nt done his homework).

It's not too late - try asking your dealer for the same discount on the v2 - and see his reactions!
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I followed this particular thread "very closely" to the T.

I do not think I erred when you meant that the stated "discounted" Xeon was 25% cheaper than the 3770k & that's what drew you to the deal ($$$$ being saved). I asked you then to check which version v1 (which I had guaranteed would be discounted) rather than the v2.

There is a lot that we home-users will never understand about the "logistics and marketing" of Xeon's (or any workstation/server processors) especially in India. Why regular places never stock them - prime; theitwares; theitdepot etc.

You have missed the bus in this entire debate - it's no longer about the proven specs of Sandy vs Ivy (vis-a-vis the DISCOUNTED PRICE).

I am glad you have quoted newegg - however examine things closely {I will NOT comment on the pricing as Xeons & especially, older iterations have variable pricing around the world}...... It all depends on when the (sad) retailer wants to close his inventory}.
E3-1275 (v1) has ONLY 3 feedback responses (the last one dating 23/feb/2012 ............ more than a year ago) & newegg still has stocks available !!!!
E3-1275v2 has ONLY 8 feedback responses (the last dating 17/mar/2013 ...... this is relevant)

Even on a site like newegg :: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501 - check this out
the 3770k has 688 feedback responses - Does this mean anything to you or nothing at all.

In India Xeons have not yet entered our homes or bedrooms & the version that you are chosing is "history"
 
vercetti said:
Why u so against XEON my man:D...and please do give some good logical answers rather than ' the WE INDIAN's Sh*t':blackalien:
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I am ready to accept all the venom you throw at me. Like I said - this debate is no longer about the proven tech-specs. If it has condescended to "the WE INDIANS Sh*t" that because of our blindness (when offered discounts) to jump into the shithole of insanity.

At my workplaces - I have used Xeons & ONLY workstation processors & servers for the past 18 years or so (90% Intel), always mounted on bland Intel - but rock solid mobos. The GPU's were always Nvidia professional Quadro series (and whatever they were called earlier). And way back in 1996, I had the good fortune of working on a Silicon Graphics Onyx workstation using Flame/Inferno (for a limited period only).

At the outset itself, I mentioned that Xeons have hardly ever made any impact on "home-users" anywhere in the world (the gist of what I said)...... see again newegg stats of sales for the given Xeons !!!!

Had your needs/interests/requirement been seriously for a Xeon, say for the next 3-4 years. I would have rolled out the red-carpet for you & also recommended better motherboards/processors/ram etc. BUT your needs are just interim (chosing an almost dated processor & then seating it on a mediocre board) & that's where I feel I have wasted my time.

Adieu. All the best matey.
 
Sorry if I offended you in any way...that was not my intention.
I sole intention was to get my answers which I have kind of Got now.

Let me check if I can bargain further with the dealer....After all if I get the Xeon's for a Peanut ....I have 4 cores glory which I can use to power up my games for atleast next 1 year (if needed)...and this also keeps my wife happy with the CAD, photoshop wrok
terence_fdes said:
I am ready to accept all the venom you throw at me.
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vercetti said:
Thirdly, All reviews in all sites show Xeon to be performing on par with i7 and better at rendering (and thats why Xeon's are expensive)... + they have ECC support and additional features.
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1. Please be clear that a Xeon v1 is performing on par only with a sandy bridge i7. A xeon v1 is a sandy bridge, there are no architectural differences. An ivy bridge i7/Xeon v2 will obviously be marginally faster.
Edit: Here are benchmarks comparing Xeon V1, Sandy Bridge i7, Xeon V2 and Ivy Bridge i7 : http://www.servethehome.com/intel-xeon-e31230-v2-ivy-bridge-xeon-review-4c8t-33ghz/
2. You are misreading the benchmark for Rendering. The Rendering benchmark you were referencing uses the GPU also and the xeon is faster in this case because of the pro drivers. With a 6850 this factor becomes null.
3. You are not using ECC or any of the additional features.

What you need to do is put aside the "Xeon" brand and the "discount" tags for a while and look at it objectively for what it is - a cheaper Sandy bridge based 4C/8T processor. And IMHO for the 15k price you are getting good performance. But please don't be of the wrong impression that the 15K Xeon 1275 v1 has better performance than a 20K 3770k!
 
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@Crazy_Eddy
Thanks a lot. makes sense.

One final question; I haven't been able to get a concrete answer from all my searches so asking you:
E3 1275 V1 has FSB 1333 support. I have a 1600 RAM. will my RAM's work with E3 1275 V1?
I am okay if the ram operates in 1333
 
^^ Yes it will work. And as my name has been tagged on the first page, I am obligated and Honored to reply here :p, so here it goes.

I need to ask you a few Questions though :
1. The Xeon E3 1275 u r getting, is it brand new/box pack and with Indian Warranty ?
2. Are you really sure that you will upgrade to Haswell as soon as its available ?

Coz I will not pay 15k for an OEM, no Warranty 1275 (Coz it can be bought at around 11k if available). And if you are really going to upgrade so soon, it wouldnt make much sense to debate all this because you will be selling your combo irrespective of what u get now. And as already been said a few times, reselling a consumer segment SKU (i.e. i7) will be 10 times easier than to resell the Xeon.

If you are not going to upgrade soon, i would say save some money and get the Xeon coz u wont notice the 2-3% difference in performance (assuming there is some difference) in normal day to day usage.

Hope it helped !
 
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harryneopotter said:
^^ Yes it will work. And as my name has been tagged on the first page, I am obligated and Honored to reply here :p, so here it goes.
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Good Morning matey .... we really missed you in this truly interesting discussion (threads like this one on TE do not spring up often). I am sure you were caught up with work & life.

Meanwhile, I guess OP has moved into the elusive "Xeon" territory ......... the word itself sounds so grandiously alien, aka "Star Wars" :finger:. I have no doubts the processor will serve him well (tho I wish he had mounted it on a better board) :hungover:
 
Thanks mate.
Below are the answers; my dealer somwhow is not responding:( so I am stuck

Its brand new box packed
Not sure if I want to upgrade but if I get a killer deal I will surely upgrade


harryneopotter said:
I need to ask you a few Questions though :
1. The Xeon E3 1275 u r getting, is it brand new/box pack and with Indian Warranty ?
2. Are you really sure that you will upgrade to Haswell as soon as its available ?

If you are not going to upgrade soon, i would say save some money and get the Xeon coz u wont notice the 2-3% difference in performance (assuming there is some difference) in normal day to day usage.

Hope it helped !
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