as much as i would like to believe in your theory but it doesn't make sense to me. are you saying that the weight of the lean muscle in grams is equal to the weight of the protein we consume!?
on another note.. our body is composed of 70% water doesn't mean you take out the water in the equation to measure the requirements of the nutrients. that would be absurd ain't it?
in general an average person consumes a lot of food [read carbs] than our body needs based on the physical activity we do everyday. but then we [our body] are used to it. finally every person's body is different. it reacts differently to the food we consume the activities we do. the requirement of [quantity/quality] of food/nutrition/supplements would be different. what works for you essentially need not work for others.
1. I am going by the nitrogen balance method. Proteins are amino acids, your muscle cell structures are also amino acids. Muscles also contain fat, glycogen and water. Therefore actual dry muscle mass that is comprised from amino acids will become even smaller than my calculations
2. Why taking out water becomes absurd? Do you think the body will rely on amino acids to hydrate the cells? Even when it has ready supply of easily usable water?
3. You are right about everybody's body is different. But I am simply appalled by the general lack of intelligence and scientific outlook in all the gym goers! No one has done any kind of written down measurements checking the efficacy of the claims, but still the yarn mill keeps spinning and spewing bullshit everywhere.
are you sure of these numbers. cooked rice having this much of protein!? 10% !? :shocked:
No sir, I said 600g of raw rice.
I think you are either getting confused or trying to confuse me
Since, you are comfortable in terms of cooked rice figures:
1. calorific value of cooked rice = 1.3 kcal/g
2. Basic human needs to live = 2400 kcal
3. therefore minimum consumption of cooked rice= 2400/1.3 = 1846 grams, otherwise our person will shrink and die soon
4. Protein content in cooked rice = 2.7%
5. Therefore total proteins ingested unknowingly by our skeptic gentleman = 1846 x 2.7% = 49.84 grams
Surprised?
Well you have just woken up from the Whey protein marketing campaign induced stupor.
BTW, when you show this to a Whey/Proteins groupie, he will always remark - so what these rice proteins are incomplete, not best digestible, not bio available, not the best quality, etc.
Fine, so do you want me to go over what a typical veg person will consume over his day? The results will be better than the above numbers because rice has one of the lowest protein content.
but you also need good fats and micro nutrients that wheat , rice totally lack . eating close to 2 kg rice for 60 gram protein ?? remember even wheat will have considerable mass as we dont eat dry wheat. no its not placebo at all , have gone on no supp and supped workouts for considerable time and can feel the difference. why dont you try a good stack yourself again if you are training regularly and with decent volume. training volume not much change and neither do i eat a lot . in fact i might actually be eating less when taking supps. hormones i cant really measure regularly but they wont fluctuate that much.
Arre boss, all I was showing you is that even if you would consume an assumed pathetic diet of only cereals like Rice, you would get your proteins.
In real life you WOULD consume other stuff like pulses & legumes that will give you enough proteins. And enough variety in the amino acids that will make it complete profile and bio available. (Otherwise all vegetarians would've started shrinking from the day they were born).
Regarding the point about feeling difference. Unless there was a quantifiable and significant change in either body measurements or loads lifted, it is always placebo.
I have done the same, by using real food proteins, instead of Whey and other boxed powders over a long period of time while doing Bodybuilding routines and powerlifting routines.
Now if you say that boxed protein powders are something different compared to egg whites, fish, chicken, mutton and beef ... I can only throw my hands up in the air and back off.
I think I should also start a Whey protein marketing firm, my dairy guy simply throws away all the whey he makes as a byproduct ...
