The Fitness Thread !

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You wont get slim fast

Ive been loosing only 1kg/month but its been constant for 1.5 years

Those 3 workouts are wholebody exercises, not isolation workouts that target 1/2 muscles
 
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m-jeri said:
So i am thinking of controlling my diet a bit more. Well in mysore, a pure non veg guy has very less options in weekdays. Weekeds, i eat like a pig. :S

Can anyone tell a high protien less cal diet??. I eat like 2 eggs a day during dinner. is that ok? cholesterol?. Sometimes chappattis or something else.

The following is my rough diet which I follow religiously :

5 Egg whites : 20g protein approx



2 Scoops of Whey Protein, one in the morning and one after workout : 50g protein approx


100 g Nutrela Soya Chunks : 54g protein approx. ( This shit is amazing, 100g of nutrela will give you 330 Calories with less than 1g of fat and more than 50g protein. But mind you, eating 100g daily is no easy task. I eat it boiled without any gravy and it doesn't taste that good. There are approx 120-150 soya chunks in 100g so you can imagine how long it will take you to finish it. I usually just keep munching it for 2-3 hours during the day until its finished. Uts also dirt cheap. A 200g packet costs only 25 bucks. You can find it at any grocery store. Here is the link : Ruchi's Nutrela Soya Chunks*::*Instant Mix*::*Instant Foods*::*Groceries*::*iShopIndian.com

1 Boneless Chicken Breat : 30g protein approx. (A full boneless chicken breast will weigh 100g approx. Have it with a curry. Avoid access oil.)

2 medium bowls of Dal : 50g protein approx.

1 glass of cow milk : 5g protein approx.



4 chapatis : 4g protein approx.

2 medium bowls of curd : 8g protein approx.


Some green vegetable : 2-8g protein approx.



Rough protein intake during the day : 220g protein approx. And btw all this amounts to less than 2000 calories a day. :)
 
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Hmm, I love soya chunks but never tried it outside of curry...

Does it have any taste of its own?

didnt know they were 50% protein either

apparently they are also a very rich source of estrogen...

ps apparently it has no adverse effect in males
 
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^Well they kinda taste like raw chicken but a little worse. :P All I do is add a little salt in them. Its also easier to eat 100g of it this way, I just put 10-12 soya chunks at a time in my mouth, finish it in two sittings.
 
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Gauge said:
Jerin, dont bother about the fat. That's not the fat actually you are gaining. It is muscles with fat accumulated around. Do one thing. Do you do cardio?

- If you love to lift weighs, avoid HIIT for the time being.

- Add 15min joggin to your gym schedule on alternate days.

- Divide your workout plan to 6 days. Start with chest on first day of the week and end with legs.

- Jogging part comes the first you enter your gym. Set a 15-min countdown on your treadmill and try jog at continous speeds till the end of 15min. It is surely going to take you sometime, but you'll adjust to that. It is actually not jogging, it is running. Dont bother about how much calories you lose doing this.

- For the days left, end with 15-min cycling and cross-training overhaul after your body-part workout.

- Try to add leg-lifts to your schedule if you can.

- Regarding the diet, just keep i clean.

- Never miss these three. Bench press, DL, squats. Shuffle the ways you do them.

From what i think, you are an easy gainer. Avoid having dinner after 8 in the evening.

I might not know as much as Rockfella saar, but i can advise you till some extent. If you have a strong mindset and want to lose fat in an efficient way. Ask him to guide you with something about Tabada.

Tabada helped me pass through pleateaus and i lost around 8 pounds in a month. I used to know about HIITs but had a very little about Tabada.

Yes. I do cardio.

I go for a 5 day per week system. Mon-Fri.

Mon - 21 minutes constant speed running - 1 km on cycles, Chest

Tue- 21 minutes constant speed running - 1 km on cycles, Shoulder

Wednesday - 21 minutes constant speed running - 1 km on cycles, Lats, lil bit triceps

Thursday - 12 minute, 1 min walk - 1 min run(6 sets), in a inclined setting - 1 km on cycle, Biceps, lil bit leg exercise(leg press, leg extension, leg-back thighs)

Friday - Just 5 minutes constant speed running. as a warmup. Thats the legs day. (squats, lunges)

Can u explain the bolded sections.

Dead lifts. havent done one in 7 months. Used to. Trying to accommodate it from today. After reading SL. :D

Leg lifts... I know i know.. been doing that for all the time been in gyms.
 
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m-jeri said:
Yes. I do cardio.

I go for a 5 day per week system. Mon-Fri.

Mon - 21 minutes constant speed running - 1 km on cycles, Chest

Tue- 21 minutes constant speed running - 1 km on cycles, Shoulder

Wednesday - 21 minutes constant speed running - 1 km on cycles, Lats, lil bit triceps

Thursday - 12 minute, 1 min walk - 1 min run(6 sets), in a inclined setting - 1 km on cycle, Biceps, lil bit leg exercise(leg press, leg extension, leg-back thighs)

Friday - Just 5 minutes constant speed running. as a warmup. Thats the legs day. (squats, lunges)

Can u explain the bolded sections.

Dead lifts. havent done one in 7 months. Used to. Trying to accommodate it from today. After reading SL. :D

Leg lifts... I know i know.. been doing that for all the time been in gyms.

From your various posts here, I am assuming you are a beginner. You are also a little snobbish and have a pretty closed mind wherein no matter what someone advises you, you never follow. At the risk of being completely ignored, I would still recommend you the following workout :

A Simple Beginner's Routine - Bodybuilding.com Forums

Do, the above with a calorie deficiet high protein diet for a few months and you are sure to shed those extra pounds and build some muscle mass.
 
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Bluffmaster said:
From your various posts here, I am assuming you are a beginner. You are also a little snobbish and have a pretty closed mind wherein no matter what someone advises you, you never follow. At the risk of being completely ignored, I would still recommend you the following workout :

A Simple Beginner's Routine - Bodybuilding.com Forums

Do, the above with a calorie deficiet high protein diet for a few months and you are sure to shed those extra pounds and build some muscle mass.

Well its nearing 2 years since i started all this. I am beginner till now?

I live in a PG. No way of getting all those food, and to follow them properly.

and what was the snobbish things? I can only make do with things i can have r8?.
 
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Rockfella said:
^ Bro this is crap. Let him follow SL, you are right about his erratic nature.

From his replies in this thread, he looked like a beginner to me, also he claims he is still fat. If he was even remotely serious about his workouts and diet, he would have been ripped by now. That is actually a pretty decent workout programme for a beginner. Almost every experienced member on Bodybuilding.com swears by it. The SL programme you linked to looks neat but there is no way in hell a beginner can do it honestly.

@Jeri : Thats no excuse for not having a proper diet. Learn to cook, its not rocket science. Besides, there is nothing in my diet plan which is hard to cook. Dal and chicken curry is perhaps the most easiest to cook among Indian foods. Whey, milk and curd you can get from the market. Nutrela and Eggs are as simple as boiling them.
 
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I am unable to find a good link for 5x5 training.

I know it may be posted here in one of the 89 pages but cant find it. Please post good 5x5 training schedules.

My current gym has limited equipment.

1 bench, 1 barbell and weights(100KG Max) are what they provide. Even the dumbbells are useless as the maximum weight is 15KG dumbbell which is useless for less rep range.

Also I got this link with 2 training schedules, people who have been following this routine suggest which is the best

Bodybuilding.com - What Is The Best 5x5 Workout That Will Produce Amazing Muscle Gain?

Have done lot of splits, functional/resistance and plyometric training. Never did 5x5

Understood the basics of 5x5

So thinking of doing it this way 5x5x5x5

5 days a week, 5 exercises a day, 5 sets, 5 reps (90 sec gap between each rep and 3 minutes between each set)

In addition to the links can you guys give your personal experience in this routine.

Some one asked about carbs

About Carbs

There are two kinds of carbohydrates: simple and complex.

Simple carbohydrates require little digestion and thus are a quick energy source. Fruits, fruit juices and milk contain simple sugars (carbohydrates) that provide valuable nutrients in addition to an energy boost. Candies, table sugar, alcoholic beverages and sweetened soft drinks are simple sugar sources that provide calories, but usually no nutrients.

Complex carbohydrates are found in grains, some vegetables and legumes. They are starches and require more digestion than simple carbohydrates. Rich in B-vitamins, fiber and iron, complex carbohydrates from grains are the body’s best source of energy because they are burned in a constant, timereleased manner. They provide sustained energy for athletic events and can help manage blood sugar irregularities. The fiber found in complex carbohydrates, fruits and vegetables can help lower blood cholesterol in some people when eaten as part of a low-fat diet.

Source: Simple Carbohydrates and Complex Carbohydrates

Other carbs related links:

Good Carbs vs. Bad Carbs | List of Low Carbs Foods | Complex Carb List

Examples of Simple and Complex Carbohydrates
 
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Bluffmaster said:
From his replies in this thread, he looked like a beginner to me, also he claims he is still fat. If he was even remotely serious about his workouts and diet, he would have been ripped by now. That is actually a pretty decent workout programme for a beginner. Almost every experienced member on Bodybuilding.com swears by it. The SL programme you linked to looks neat but there is no way in hell a beginner can do it honestly.

I am not saying that my workout is near perfect or something. But i am like 165~175cms and 100~105 kgs. I am fat. I used to be fatter like 2 years back. I was around 130. :S

True that i dont have a good instructor. But i can only do things that i can in my available gyms.

@Rock said to increment weights by 2.5. The min here is 5kg plates. Cannot do that now r8?. He told me to do squats properly. I did and i could do till 90kg.

I remember him telling me to do DL's. And i did started. But the gym never allowed olympic bar to be removed from their "respective places". so used to do with a barbell. :S. But today, olympic bar it is.

I do try to accommodate things i can.

And about food.

Cook on my own? PG is paying guest. I have a room with attached bathroom. I cannot cook there. Dunno if they allow also. :(. And honestly food in mysore is next to worse. dont even have a electric kettle. Need to get that this weekend. :S.

@rock and @bluff.

I still no idea whats erratic in my workout. I do everything people mention here. :S.

true i dont control my diet though. :D.
 
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Don't mind but if you change anything in the SL 5x5 it will no longer be SL 5x5 it will be sg3707 5x5x5x5 which won't work! So stick with the SL or SS (Starting Strength) Don't change a thing. Rest ur call.

sg3707 said:
I am unable to find a good link for 5x5 training.

I know it may be posted here in one of the 89 pages but cant find it. Please post good 5x5 training schedules.

My current gym has limited equipment.

1 bench, 1 barbell and weights(100KG Max) are what they provide. Even the dumbbells are useless as the maximum weight is 15KG dumbbell which is useless for less rep range.

Also I got this link with 2 training schedules, people who have been following this routine suggest which is the best

Bodybuilding.com - What Is The Best 5x5 Workout That Will Produce Amazing Muscle Gain?

Have done lot of splits, functional/resistance and plyometric training. Never did 5x5

Understood the basics of 5x5

So thinking of doing it this way 5x5x5x5

5 days a week, 5 exercises a day, 5 sets, 5 reps (90 sec gap between each rep and 3 minutes between each set)

In addition to the links can you guys give your personal experience in this routine.

Some one asked about carbs

About Carbs

There are two kinds of carbohydrates: simple and complex.

Simple carbohydrates require little digestion and thus are a quick energy source. Fruits, fruit juices and milk contain simple sugars (carbohydrates) that provide valuable nutrients in addition to an energy boost. Candies, table sugar, alcoholic beverages and sweetened soft drinks are simple sugar sources that provide calories, but usually no nutrients.

Complex carbohydrates are found in grains, some vegetables and legumes. They are starches and require more digestion than simple carbohydrates. Rich in B-vitamins, fiber and iron, complex carbohydrates from grains are the body’s best source of energy because they are burned in a constant, timereleased manner. They provide sustained energy for athletic events and can help manage blood sugar irregularities. The fiber found in complex carbohydrates, fruits and vegetables can help lower blood cholesterol in some people when eaten as part of a low-fat diet.

Source: Simple Carbohydrates and Complex Carbohydrates

Other carbs related links:

Good Carbs vs. Bad Carbs | List of Low Carbs Foods | Complex Carb List

Examples of Simple and Complex Carbohydrates
 
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m-jeri said:
I am not saying that my workout is near perfect or something. But i am like 165~175cms and 100~105 kgs. I am fat. I used to be fatter like 2 years back. I was around 130. :S

True that i dont have a good instructor. But i can only do things that i can in my available gyms.

@Rock said to increment weights by 2.5. The min here is 5kg plates. Cannot do that now r8?. He told me to do squats properly. I did and i could do till 90kg.

I remember him telling me to do DL's. And i did started. But the gym never allowed olympic bar to be removed from their "respective places". so used to do with a barbell. :S. But today, olympic bar it is.

I do try to accommodate things i can.

And about food.

Cook on my own? PG is paying guest. I have a room with attached bathroom. I cannot cook there. Dunno if they allow also. :(. And honestly food in mysore is next to worse. dont even have a electric kettle. Need to get that this weekend. :S.

@rock and @bluff.

I still no idea whats erratic in my workout. I do everything people mention here. :S.

true i dont control my diet though. :D.

I apologize if I offended you in any way. I guess I jumped the gun on this, sorry. So you were 130 kgs ? Coming down from 130kg to 100kg is a great achievement, you should be proud of yourself. And I respect your will to change yourself and not giving up despite being so overweight, I know it must have been very hard. Soon the day will come when you would have achieved the impossible, you will become a completely new person and everyone who may have laughed at you at some point will feel jealous of the new you but until that day please do not loose hope and continue to fight through this. :)

I can understand how hard it must be for you living in a PG to follow a strict diet, but then self-discipline is extremely important when it comes to bodybuilding. If this was easy, wouldn't every tom dick and harry carry a bulging bicep and a six pack? The main problem with your routine as I see it, is your diet. Without a proper diet no matter how much you slog in the gym, you won't be able to see the desired results. Find a way to rectify this problem and you will soon start seeing results much faster. :)
 
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@ sg370. It takes a lot of convincing to switch from the all time popular bodybuilding split routine to something very simple and only 3 days a week 5x5. Infact I tried it for the first time as I had injured my shoulder swimming in 2009 so I could not bench/ohp so I thought of giving it a try. I did not bench/ohp only squat/dl/rows. 60kg squat in 60 days looked unreal to me on paper reading the 5x5 eBook but I was surprised to see my strength growing rapidly (without actually following the 8 diet rules of SL!!!) everytime I squatted/deadlifted. 5x5 is not the only way to workout infact it might not be suited for some advanced lifters. But for starters it’s the best out there hands down. So find a gym in which u can follow it exactly as laid out. If not then this program won't work. U might see it working for the first month or maybe 2 but after that u'll need micro loading at all costs. It’s simply impossible to increase 5 kgs on the bench and ohp after 2-4 months. U’ll stall and keep on deloading which gets frustrating. We Indians have smaller frames (bones) and don't have the best genetics so we really need small plates to keep on getting stronger.

FYI:
A friend of mine 35yo, 5'8" only 55kgs thought gaining weight for him was impossible. I put him on HGOMAD (2 liters of whole milk a day) on 1st July 2011. He thought he'll never be able to drink more than 500 ml milk a day. He started with 1 a day, then 1.5 for a week then had like 2 liters for only two days and has already gained 3 kgs in 20 days (which is think is decent as he hardly took less than 2 liters most of the days he was on, drinking milk for 15 days only. Drinking 1-2 liters of milk a day has increased his appetite forever and now he'll have to buy new clothes in a week time lol. He was not 5x5ing so it was all fat gain mostly on the waist (which I warned him before starting the milk). Despite all he is happy and now wants to hit 62 kgs before starting 5x5. Some bicep curlers I know think 5x5 is for geeks and nerds, they really need to do a lot of research as they waste time/money/energy doing split shit 6 days a week with average results rofl.
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I'll avoid working out at home now. I’ve found a gym with power rack and 1.25kg plates!! (am surprised). Will start soon.

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@ MJeri: Respect bro! 30 kgs loss is good. Just keep on doing what u have been till it works. When it stop working (which it will sooner or later) try something serious :) I apologize for my rude posts but its amazing to know u've not read the SL stuff when i told you about it (and posted in this thread) months ago.

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Ok guys bye. I'll post in this thread after 6 months after increasing all lifts to something substantial, don't wanna end up being a keyboard warrior.
 
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Bluffmaster said:
1 glass of cow milk : 5g protein approx.

Hi!

Cow milk has less saturated fat, but more cholesterol.

Water buffalo milk has more saturated fat, but less cholesterol.

Which one is better for drinking (a glassful) on a daily basis?

I do cardio (running, cycling, step-machine) 4-5 days a week. I also consume 1 egg (with yolk) daily.

I was also doing weight-lifting until couple of months ago, but left it as these days I barely get an hr. free.

1 egg + 1 glass milk is working out well for me. Not interested in supplements.

I'm just confused regarding cow vs water buffalo milk. :S

Experts, please help!
 
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Bluffmaster said:
I apologize if I offended you in any way. I guess I jumped the gun on this, sorry. So you were 130 kgs ? Coming down from 130kg to 100kg is a great achievement, you should be proud of yourself. And I respect your will to change yourself and not giving up despite being so overweight, I know it must have been very hard. Soon the day will come when you would have achieved the impossible, you will become a completely new person and everyone who may have laughed at you at some point will feel jealous of the new you but until that day please do not loose hope and continue to fight through this. :)

I can understand how hard it must be for you living in a PG to follow a strict diet, but then self-discipline is extremely important when it comes to bodybuilding. If this was easy, wouldn't every tom dick and harry carry a bulging bicep and a six pack? The main problem with your routine as I see it, is your diet. Without a proper diet no matter how much you slog in the gym, you won't be able to see the desired results. Find a way to rectify this problem and you will soon start seeing results much faster. :)

No. Nothing offending. But peeps here keep saying what i do is wrong(pointing at @rock :D). But no idea whats the wrong.

I honestly do more than anyone in my current gym except for one guy. People here are obsessed with the "display" muscles -> Biceps, Triceps and lil bit chest. Well they are thin soo I guess. :D. Only 2 people who does squats. How about that? :S.

Yea. Even my gym instructor saying that all i need to do is reduce my tummy a bit. and after that all is set. I hope. But this food.. its a mess. For a non veg guy this is too much. Food is THAT bad. not making it up. And to achieve this, the diet is extremely strict. but.. :(

And thanks. Wish i could post my pic here. but kinda dont want to. I have a better idea. will PM you now. :D.

@rock.

started DL yesterday. Tried 50Kgs. they dont have suitable weights for the free olympic bar. Used from the squat smith. It kept wobbling.

So shifted to olympic weights. 45kgs.5*5