The Hindu Vs The Times of India

Used to read ToI few years back for their articles and Sunday specials.
Now, its just a propaganda tool for which whichever ruling Govt. and corporate interests.
Their website and articles are soft pron. Even in printed edition so may feather-less chicken pictures and news of self proclaimed celebrities with whom we have no common interest in.

Indian Express and The Hindu far better.
 
Gannu said:
TOIlet paper; that is as good as Times of India gets.

The Hindu is miles ahead of it in terms of the content and editorials. Pretty sad we do not get one here in the west. :(
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I get it a day later as there is no bombay edition of the paper. I did not know about this till one time i spoke to my newspaper vendor, try speaking to yours.
 
Chaos said:
As far as I'm concerned, I've stopped reading print newspapers since a while now. All my new comes from aggregators and google news.
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The problem with this approach is there is no beginning nor end is there. You end up aggregating just what you want to read and miss things you are not interested in. This approach is good as a compliment to newspapers but not as a substitute. I've seen ppl mention this method often on the web, i've tried it and i don't find it to be very good. In fact i'd say its bad if you do it over a long period of time. Its only good for specialised areas where you need to know everything about a few topics. From a professional pov there is an argument to be made here but not on the general level.

Whereas a paper gives you a finite amount, and in theory should tell you what you need to know for that day whether you like it or not. There is a much broader coverage here than you could ever hope to achieve by yourself. That is to say unless you go the epaper route, which just does not compare to holding a physical paper in your hands. epaper is good if you cannot get the paper itself and no more.

agantuk said:
How many here 'read' Deccan Chronicle? It is a pioneer in this field. Most of TOI's inspiration comes from DC. The latter manufactures news, taking 'news publishing' to an all new level
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Only for those in Hyderabad. Though i've heard quite a few ppl sing praises for it, i prefer the DH.

vivek.krishnan said:
However, since i get TOI, HT and DNA @ my place, must mention that TOI is better than DNA and is more or less equal to HT. DNA used to be good, now seems doing crap.
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Am curious why you think DNA is doing badly ?

i follow its articles from time to time and they are certainly a bit more hard hitting than others.

I don't get the newspaper just follow the website and the content does not seem too bad.

vivek.krishnan said:
However, sunday editions of TOI and HT are awesome for the guest editors.
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yeh, thats the only day i get it.
 
I find Hindu very tough filled with lots of words I don't understand. But started reading it few days ago, helps me in GRE ;)

btw I do read Deccan Chronicle / Herald & I like it. It's simple & does the job :)

and if my net is not working, for soft p0rn - TOI hands down :rofl:
 
TOI is great.

I love it. It makes great packaging/wrapping paper considering the costs of brown paper to pack the parcels. :p

With all the pages that TOI comes with, its a bargain.
 
Gannu said:
TOIlet paper; that is as good as Times of India gets.

The Hindu is miles ahead of it in terms of the content and editorials. Pretty sad we do not get one here in the west. :(
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TOIlet paper, government stooge, Propaganda machine are some of the names I hear from my friends. . . :bleh:

Shripad said:
TOI is great.
I love it. It makes great packaging/wrapping paper considering the costs of brown paper to pack the parcels. :p
With all the pages that TOI comes with, its a bargain.
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:D
 
Even the Sunday editorials are pretty poor these days with guys like Chetan Bhagat spouting shit.
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yess. . finally someone who hates Chetan bhagat..

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I totally agree .. theres rarely any material in TOI that i get interested in reading.. though i cant compare it with others . coz i havent really read any regularly..

Hows Indian Express compared to TOI. I would like to change my daily newspaper???
 
TOI is great, but there are 2 things which I hate about it:
1) Their front page advertisement when the page is cut in half vertically
2) Stripping down of the business section, no stocks and no bullion (though bullion does appear sometimes)
 
Damn! How did I miss this thread earlier? The shittiness of TOI used to be a pet rant of mine. I see we are almost in unanimous agreement that TOI sucks. I feel the same way. I even quit journalism because of it, which I will get into detail later. Ok, wall of text coming up:

Unfortunately, economics is to blame. TOI used to be a decent paper till management decided that they wanted to monopolize the market. The result? Lots of shitty page 3 news, sensationalist articles, false facts, paid for articles. This worked. More and more people started reading TOI. Last I checked, TOI is by far the most read english paper in India, followed by the Hindu (yes, check the NRS survey) and Hindustan times. TOI is read more than both the other papers put together, although you have to take into account that TOI has a lot more editions. TOI even started eating into the market share of the other papers in their conventional strongholds. So HT lost readers in Delhi while Hindu in Chennai.

Everyone is now playing catch-up with TOI while at the same losing readers to sensationalist TV news. Of course the old adage always works - 'if you can't beat em, join em', and that's what everyone is doing. Even conventional hard hitting fact-driven papers like Indian Express and the Statesman have now begun carrying sensationalist articles in a constant war of attrition. Me and a lot of my journalist buddies quit news for this very reason. As it stands if you work in one of these papers, you have to file an 'exclusive' everyday and if you can't, then your'e chewed up by the boss and often given bad performance ratings. Some reporters sink down to plagiarism or even invent stories out of nothing using out-of-context quotes or misrepresenting facts. Non-sensationalist stories are ignored or sensationalised. These reporters are just trying to keep their jobs. They have to toe the line. Often a reporter files a factual story only to be surprised the next day as the desk changes the story to make is more sensationalist. You as a reporter lose all control of your story once you file it.
 
nanoneo said:
Even conventional hard hitting fact-driven papers like Indian Express and the Statesman have now begun carrying sensationalist articles in a constant war of attrition.
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When was the IE ever better than ToI?
 
avi said:
I find Hindu very tough filled with lots of words I don't understand. But started reading it few days ago, helps me in GRE ;)

btw I do read Deccan Chronicle / Herald & I like it. It's simple & does the job :)

and if my net is not working, for soft p0rn - TOI hands down :rofl:
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Nothing new about it, For a long time now, reading Hindu is a well acknowledged method to improve ones English skills. As for comparison with TOI, there's nothing to compare. They are leagues apart.
 
Lord Nemesis said:
Nothing new about it, For a long time now, reading Hindu is a well acknowledged method to improve ones English skills. As for comparison with TOI, there's nothing to compare. They are leagues apart.
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Really? For one year in college we only had badly written Hindu reports to edit. It is a popular misconception that Hindu has good English.

I find the writing in the Hindu to be drab and academic. Certainly not a way to improve English. Not sure about TOI comparisons but times does have good English if not the best content. I like their headlines.
 
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