The Travails of Single South Indian men of conservative upbringing"

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^ Sanskrit is there in every language. I learned tamil. I can read write and talk almost fluently cause I stayed there for many years. :| .even tamil contains sanskrit.but ,the thing is ,the amount of sanskritized words are very low. so ,it becomes tough for others..
 
Aces170 said:
I dont understand how can a language be called crude, theoretically anything that is old and outdated is crude, so in that case Sanskrit is the crudest language of all... Not even spoken anymore.

All said and done, I think Mumbai may be the only city in India, where if you can survive even without knowing a single word of the local lang (marath)i, btw any official estimates as to the number of maharashtrians in mumbai, for all you know they might be a minority here
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Heck...first thing I learned in Bangalore was "Kannada Gothilla" :P

I used to repeat those golden words whenever someone started talking in super fast kannada. First I tried english...then realised Hindi was easier for ppl to understand. for next two years I all kannada i knew was counting from 1 - 6 (coz that was the range of bus fare) :D
 
^ Sanskrit is there in every language. I learned tamil. I can read write and talk almost fluently cause I stayed there for many years. .even tamil contains sanskrit.but ,the thing is ,the amount of sanskritized words are very low. so ,it becomes tough for others..
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then you mean sanskritized (as in telugu-which has a HUGE number of sanskrit words) and not originated from sanskrit (like hindi).
 
well ..for that matter kannadigas -they are actually speaking any of these languages as it is their native - Tulu(south kanara) ,Konkani,Marathi ,Kodava and Malayalam(Byaari bhashe).

@Kumar : what I meant is ,even for a south guy apart from Tamil ,sanskrit surely helped in communicating other south indian languages. be it malyali talking kannada or telegu talking malyalam... while tamilians finds it tough to learn other languages due to this reason. go to bengalooru and check ...tamilians are still talking in tamil ... :|
 
praka123 said:
well ..for that matter kannadigas -they are actually speaking any of these languages as it is their native - Tulu(south kanara) ,Konkani,Marathi ,Kodava and Malayalam(Byaari bhashe).

@Kumar : what I meant is ,even for a south guy apart from Tamil ,sanskrit surely helped in communicating other south indian languages. be it malyali talking kannada or telegu talking malyalam... while tamilians finds it tough to learn other languages due to this reason. go to bengalooru and check ...tamilians are still talking in tamil ... :|
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I don't think language being tough is any barrier for them. Its only a few you would have seen. Its more of an identity issue. perhaps they treasure it more than others?
 
yup.that too can be a reason.but as a friendly jesture ,I always talk in a language which the other person is comfortable with.but with language lovers ..we cant expect such things..I am shocked to see only "kannada" regn plate on buses in K'taka and Tamil in TN ! that sure is ridiculous ! :|
 
praka123 said:
yup.that too can be a reason.but as a friendly jesture ,I always talk in a language which the other person is comfortable with.but with language lovers ..we cant expect such things..I am shocked to see only "kannada" regn plate on buses in K'taka and Tamil in TN ! that sure is ridiculous ! :|
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1. who told you that TN has only tamil reg plates?

2. In Maharashtra they are coming out wiht a new law which says that unless you have the name of your store/establishment written in marathi on the board upfront, you CANT run your store/establishment.
 
1. yes tamil and english exists. I esp meant with KSRTC(karnatak ) buses.

come here to Kochi(n) suburbs like muvattupuzha ,perumbavoor ,alwaye route -you can see buses plying with destination route written in English ,Malayalam,Hindi and Tamil .

that is called tolerance :)
 
praka123 said:
1. yes tamil and english exists. I esp meant with KSRTC(karnatak ) buses.

come here to Kochi(n) suburbs like muvattupuzha ,perumbavoor ,alwaye route -you can see buses plying with destination route written in English ,Malayalam,Hindi and Tamil .

that is called tolerance :)
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Not tolerance...its called being sensible. Unlike other southy states mallu land is not afraid of or already being invaded by 'nasty north indians' and they don't have an identity crisis.
 
Arya said:
Almost all states in north have different languages too. How many people know that? As one of my teacher(mind you she was M. Tech) said:
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Fair enough, but there are a lot of lesser spoken languages in the south too. But IMO an educated Indian should at least be aware of the existence of the top 10~12 most spoken languages in India and more so when some of them are among the top 20 naively spoken languages in the entire world too.

I am not saying that people should be able to differentiate between different languages. I am just saying that people should be at least aware of the existence of these popular languages and where they are spoken regardless of whether they are North Indians or South Indians.

TechHead said:
Does Bhojpuri count, chhore?
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Bhojpuri is not a language specific to Bihar, its used a lot in UP and some other places too.

Arya said:
Same goes for Telugu/Malyalam/Kannada being similar to Tamil ;) from north perspective
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Its not the same as what he meant by Hindi being similar to Punjabi. I think what he meant is that if you know Hindi well, you can understand Punjabi and many other north Indian languages for the most part. Anyway I agree Punjabi is not as similar to Hindi as some seem to think. It has a whole set of unique vocabulary.

Anyway, My point was that most educated Indians from the southern states, Maharhastra, MP, Orrisa, Bengal etc, that I know can tell that a person from Chandigarh is going to speak Punjabi/Hindi, a person from Calcutta is going to speak Bengali, a person from Bhubaneswar is going to speak in Oriya or a person from Ahmedabad is going to speak in Gujarati. So why does a Well educated Punjabi or Haryanavi think (in spite of telling them which place we belong to), that a person from Hyderabad or Bangalore speaks Tamil or that Hyderabad and Bangalore are part of Madras.
Arya said:
To add to what greenie said. Just because something didn't originate from sanskrit...or doesn't sound sweet, doesnt make it crude. Its about 2k years old.

I don't know what you quoted on previous page...but anyway what you assume doesn't apply to all Mallu's.
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Agreed, calling a language crude just because does not contain un-altered words from Sanskrit (which in itself is a very old and almost extinct) is ridiculous. :rofl:

praka123 said:
but with language lovers ..we cant expect such things..I am shocked to see only "kannada" regn plate on buses in K'taka and Tamil in TN ! that sure is ridiculous ! :|
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I agree that its inconvenient for outsiders. But think of it as a way that they are patronizing their language so that it does not die out. Still I do agree that it can be done in a different manner that does not cause problems to non-localites.
 
I am not saying that people should be able to differentiate between different languages. I am just saying that people should be at least aware of the existence of these popular languages and where they are spoken regardless of whether they are North Indians or South Indians.
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Exactly my point. When southies go out they see very few ppl about their place/language/culture. Same goes for any northy coming down south. People used to hear me saying Bihar....and they go 'Oh Laloo!!!'. Can you blame them? Not really...they simply don't know that much. But putting it only on Northies being ignorant....I only wanted to point out that its not specific to north and south..but depends on education. you'll find plenty of such ppl in both 'Indias'.
 
I can speak Malayalam, Telugu, Tamil, Hindi fluently...

Somehow, personally I like the tamil language(I am not tamilian) and dont like kannada(which I cant speak)... although I think, the general consensus is that telugu is the sweetest of the south indian languages.
 
vij said:
... although I think, the general consensus is that telugu is the sweetest of the south indian languages.
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i disagree, i prefer tamil...even though im a mal.
 
Grease Monk said:
i disagree, i prefer tamil...even though im a mal.
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I said I find the tamil language sweeter/refined(the sound of it) than other south indian languages.

Although generally I have seen that Bengali and "telugu" are touted to be the sweetest of languages...
 
greeny is right: English rocks man... you to any part of india n any educated person can understand it without a problem
 
vij said:
I said I find the tamil language sweeter/refined(the sound of it) than other south indian languages.

Although generally I have seen that Bengali and "telugu" are touted to be the sweetest of languages...
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Well, Bhojpuri is also touted as the sweetest of languages. :P
 
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