The Trumps & Elon tweets thread (Had to make this since it's never ending)

altair21 said:
werent these idiots the ones claiming that as soon as Trump came into power, the prices would fall immediately?
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Just like that without any time to do anything?

Nobody ever said that. You either make up shit or twist things about.

He mentioned many things (if you would care to read the linked article) he would do AFTER which prices would reduce.

Still not replying to my previous post about effects of tariffs? What are you afraid of.
 
blr_p said:
Yes but the Israelis have been using their tanks throughout. Gaza is a totally urban environment

Maybe the Uki's have better anti-tank weapons.

Ya, this is the theory. Easier said than done. Thing is you have to get close enough to get one off before being spotted and engaged. The videos Hamas puts out are the partially successful strikes. We never see the aftermath of the strike. It's always left to the viewer to assume the rpg was successful.
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Yes Ukraine use military grade anti tank weapons. While Hamas use made in Gaza crude anti tank weapons. While they cannot penetrate the armor, they are good enough to damage the weakely protected areas like engine, optical/camera/thermal sights and the trophy radar.
Once the tank is disabled it will be sitting duck to people sneaking in with more RPG and or explosives. But since Hamas doesn't have military grade explosives, Israel tanks are managing.

Ukraine and Russia use ani tank weapons that can penetrate even the turret armor of the best western tanks. It's in different league compared to what hamas uses.

Also like I said anti tanks weapons are mainly now used against troops or to destroy a building.
Most of the tanks or armor are taken out with jam proof drones that give HD quality video feed with lowest latency. That is able to sneak inside a trench shelter with just 2 feet opening and blow up the hidden vehicle or armor. This is because the drones have a fiber optic spool that it carries, so no jamming in the world can take them down.
 
altair21 said:
smoll pp melon husk exhibit 2
https://imgur.com/a/vmWf4dT

man I can go on and on about this ****ing retard, he just never stops giving out memes lol
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I kinda like how the narrative just flipped.

Earlier it felt like going against traffic.

Now the traffic goes the same way as you wanted.

And Musk is right. Ukraine or its people were never in any danger from Russia.

But once you poke the bear you learn what FAFO means
 
blr_p said:
I kinda like how the narrative just flipped.

Earlier it felt like going against traffic.

Now the traffic goes the same way as you wanted.

And Musk is right. Ukraine or its people were never in any danger from Russia.

But once you poke the bear you learn what FAFO means
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What does your above words mean by? Is Mark Kelly right or Elon Musk right about ukraine war?
 
bssunilreddy said:
What does your above words mean by? Is Mark Kelly right or Elon Musk right about ukraine war?
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The Ukrainian people would not be at risk so long as they remain neutral. The present fight is over control of Ukraine. Nobody should control Ukraine except it's people.

A good example is Austria. After WW2, as the Soviets retreated back home they worked out a deal with Austria. Stay neutral and all will be well. They kept to their side of the agreement as did the Austrians. To this day Austria isn't a part of NATO or interested in joining. Austria prospered in the time since the war and acted as a meeting ground or interface between Soviets & the west.

Why can't Ukraine be like that?

It's notable that the western MSM never talks about Austria in this way or makes the comparison I did.

What good has western involvement in Ukrainian security done for its people to date? Absolute effing disaster. So what the hell is this senator talking about..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1899198103166816534

You don't say.. Ukraine... Hmm
 
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blr_p said:
The Ukrainian people would not be at risk so long as they remain neutral. The present fight is over control of Ukraine. Nobody should control Ukraine except it's people.

A good example is Austria. After WW2, as the Soviets retreated back home they worked out a deal with Austria. Stay neutral and all will be well. They kept to their side of the agreement as did the Austrians. To this day Austria isn't a part of NATO or interested in joining. Austria prospered in the time since the war and acted as a meeting ground or interface between Soviets & the west.

Why can't Ukraine be like that?

It's notable that the western MSM never talks about Austria in this way or makes the comparison I did.

What good has western involvement in Ukrainian security done for its people to date? Absolute effing disaster. So what the hell is this senator talking about..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1899198103166816534

You don't say.. Ukraine... Hmm
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So these Zelensky's rats are trying to bring down X now because this Head rat thinks Musk is behind Trump for not supporting to fund the Ukraine war right? Zelensky wants this war to continue even if whole of ukraine is razed to ground because he is after the money not to protect and build his country from further destruction.
Even in the case of Palestine & Israel war, it's Hamas which does not want a cease fire because they won't get anymore funding if cease fire happens and reconstruction begins in Gaza.
Do you know that all Hamas founders live in UAE and Jordan in palatial bungalows while Palestine people are dying in thousands in the clash.
Now when Trump asked to give refugees of Palestine a home in the middle eastern countries nobody were ready at 1st but later Turkey & Egypt came forward to take the Palestine refugees.
Did you the pictures of Gaza & Palestine in Reuters, it's just utterly razed to the ground. Total devastation.
But I think if Trump stands on his promise that he will make Gaza or Palestine like a Report if he be given the chance or right. I think transformation will happen because for example, Hiroshima & Nagasaki were pounded to dust after Nuclear weapons attack on them but now see what they have grown into or become.
Even the oil of Middle East were 1st explored and drilled by the British & US companies after the 2nd world war. Then Arabs took over them later.
Even now there is always a chance to let go of the greed and have cease fire commitment and ask for help from others to rebuild both their lands which are Ukraine & Palestine.
Never is too late for a cease fire to be brokered in the interests of people and future of their children.
When ever I see pictures of children dying in both the conflicts I just want to go there and plead with Zelensky & Hamas to end the hostilities for bringing in peace to the lands.
In Israel Palestine conflict it's Hamas which started it on 7th, Oct, 2023 by attacking that festival in Israel using para- gliders & boats. On their way they attacked mercilessly settlements & colonies and killed, raped and turned innocent civilians and took them hostage. Now their innocent people & children are paying the price for what Hamas did and started.
You know what Japanese General said after attacking Pearl Harbour, He said that they have messed with a sleeping grizzly bear and the future might not be good for Japan he said.
 
blr_p said:
But once you poke the bear you learn what FAFO means
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hope you feel the same way when China invades us under some bullshit pretext or when a local goon puts a gun on your head and forces you to sell your land for pennies on the dollar.

blr_p said:
The Ukrainian people would not be at risk so long as they remain neutral. The present fight is over control of Ukraine. Nobody should control Ukraine except it's people.

A good example is Austria. After WW2, as the Soviets retreated back home they worked out a deal with Austria. Stay neutral and all will be well. They kept to their side of the agreement as did the Austrians. To this day Austria isn't a part of NATO or interested in joining. Austria prospered in the time since the war and acted as a meeting ground or interface between Soviets & the west.

Why can't Ukraine be like that?
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I dont know but maybe its the fact that Russia snatched a part of their land back in 2014? what was it called again? it began with the letter C, oh right! its Crimea. Or maybe its the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine despite signing a treat that they will never do it as long as Ukraine surrendered their nuclear weapon stock? or dunno about you, but maybe its the fact Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine, stealing their children away?

Shills like you never cease to amaze me
bssunilreddy said:
So these Zelensky's rats are trying to bring down X now because this Head rat thinks Musk is behind Trump for not supporting to fund the Ukraine war right? Zelensky wants this war to continue even if whole of ukraine is razed to ground because he is after the money not to protect and build his country from further destruction.
Even in the case of Palestine & Israel war, it's Hamas which does not want a cease fire because they won't get anymore funding if cease fire happens and reconstruction begins in Gaza.
Do you know that all Hamas founders live in UAE and Jordan in palatial bungalows while Palestine people are dying in thousands in the clash.
Now when Trump asked to give refugees of Palestine a home in the middle eastern countries nobody were ready at 1st but later Turkey & Egypt came forward to take the Palestine refugees.
Did you the pictures of Gaza & Palestine in Reuters, it's just utterly razed to the ground. Total devastation.
But I think if Trump stands on his promise that he will make Gaza or Palestine like a Report if he be given the chance or right. I think transformation will happen because for example, Hiroshima & Nagasaki were pounded to dust after Nuclear weapons attack on them but now see what they have grown into or become.
Even the oil of Middle East were 1st explored and drilled by the British & US companies after the 2nd world war. Then Arabs took over them later.
Even now there is always a chance to let go of the greed and have cease fire commitment and ask for help from others to rebuild both their lands which are Ukraine & Palestine.
Never is too late for a cease fire to be brokered in the interests of people and future of their children.
When ever I see pictures of children dying in both the conflicts I just want to go there and plead with Zelensky & Hamas to end the hostilities for bringing in peace to the lands.
In Israel Palestine conflict it's Hamas which started it on 7th, Oct, 2023 by attacking that festival in Israel using para- gliders & boats. On their way they attacked mercilessly settlements & colonies and killed, raped and turned innocent civilians and took them hostage. Now their innocent people & children are paying the price for what Hamas did and started.
You know what Japanese General said after attacking Pearl Harbour, He said that they have messed with a sleeping grizzly bear and the future might not be good for Japan he said.
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oh you sweet summer child, there's a word in the dictionary called reason, it'll do you good if you looked up its meaning, and there's another word you are missing called nuance, why not look it up too?
 
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altair21 said:
hope you feel the same way when China invades us under some bullshit pretext or when a local goon puts a gun on your head and forces you to sell your land for pennies on the dollar.
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Incorrect analogies that show you have NFI what this conflict is about.
altair21 said:
I dont know but maybe its the fact that Russia snatched a part of their land back in 2014? what was it called again? it began with the letter C, oh right! its Crimea.
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Yes and why did that happen. Maidan riots lead to the ousting of Yanukovich. How was he elected again? Oh yeah democratically. See once this shit went down what then happens to Russia's Black Sea fleet? Based where? Begins with the letter C.

Does Russia just sit back and watch this western instigated circus take place or act proactively to secure its interests.

In any case the people of Crimea that happen to be overwhelmingly Russian voted in a referendum to join Russia.

altair21 said:
Or maybe its the fact that Russia invaded Ukraine despite signing a treat that they will never do it as long as Ukraine surrendered their nuclear weapon stock?
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You have an incomplete understanding of the Memorandum you are quoting

en.m.wikipedia.org

Budapest Memorandum - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org en.m.wikipedia.org

Note the self defense exception?

Yeah, how come the sources or commentators you follow neglect to mention it. Because they disagree with Russia that this is a matter of self defence for Russia.

Who are they to decide what is and isn't self defense or what threatens Russia?
altair21 said:
or dunno about you, but maybe its the fact Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine,
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You need to understand the meaning of big words like genocide and not throw it about carelessly.
altair21 said:
stealing their children away?
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Do the number of children
that died in the Donbas due to Ukrainian indiscriminate shelling matter?
tass.com

Moscow memorial event pays tribute to children killed in Donbass

State Duma deputy Anna Kuznetsova pointed out that the youngest of the dead children was a few days old
tass.com tass.com

Yeah, that's the thing. Ukraine has been facing an insurgency problem in its east and their response is to use artillery and drones.

Donbas casualties since 2014

See, India has faced multiple insurgencies for over half a century and counting but we never ever used artillery against our own. Because once you do that you lose the right to call those people your own.

altair21 said:
Shills like you never cease to amaze me
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Neither do lightweights like yourself who pretend to be knowledgeable.

altair21 said:
oh you sweet summer child, there's a word in the dictionary called reason, it'll do you good if you looked up its meaning, and there's another word you are missing called nuance, why not look it up too?
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Yeah, do your homework before spouting BS at us.
 
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I didn't know this, JD Vance's cousin fought in Ukraine.

www.theguardian.com

JD Vance’s cousin says vice-president and Trump are ‘useful idiots’ to Putin

Nate Vance reportedly spent three years trying to help Ukraine repel Russian troops and has been alarmed by his cousin’s remarks
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Well, I think my experience in Ukraine has given me a unique perspective that most Americans don't have. There are certainly cultural differences — both between Ukrainians and Americans, and between Ukrainians and Russians. I think if you try to deal with Russia through an American lens, it will come back to bite you. They don't necessarily think like we think — and I'm talking about their political class. I've personally witnessed them shooting their own troops on enough occasions that it wasn’t just an isolated incident. It’s happened quite a bit — enough to the point where you could consider it to be policy if troops are retreating. So, these people — as a policy — will eat their own. They will not hesitate to eat an American president or an American vice president. They don’t care what we think. They're not our allies, and they never will be — not at least for a generation.
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