UnitedHealthcare CEO's Murder - Looks like everyone is celebrating

Your argument is more appropriate for some dictatorship or failed state.
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Found this on substack:

”Exclusive: Luigi's Manifesto Read the manifesto the media refused to publish Ken Klippenstein Dec 10, 2024”

I’ve obtained a copy of suspected killer Luigi Mangione’s manifesto — the real one, not the forgery circulating online. Major media outlets are also in possession of the document but have refused to publish it and not even articulated a reason why. My queries to The New York Times, The Washington Post, CNN and NBC to explain their rationale for withholding the manifesto, while gladly quoting from it selectively, have not been answered.

I’ll have more to say on this later — on how unhealthy the media’s drift away from public disclosure is — but for now, here’s the manifesto:

“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
 
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Question is always who pays?

In Europe the taxes are higher for this reason.

In the US they don't like high taxes.
 
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Litigation means doctors have to be protected from malpractice suits. That's what ups the cost to see any doctor.
Malpractice is a fraction of the cost. Look at the profit margins of insurance companies. Normally they should be not higher than 10%.
The NHS is shit. I met many doctors who came to the US from there.
Somehow, Europeans are not revolting on the matter of healthcare.
Your argument is more appropriate for some dictatorship or failed state.
What is the definition of a failed state? If the people feel that state is unable to take care of them and unwilling to listen to them then would that be a failed state or not?
Not over simplyfying, getting to the point, that is what he will be tried for.
So, if it is only about murdering in the street, so you agree with his grievances then? Because countless murders happen, this guy did one, fine prosecute him, but the issue is relevant right?
Why he did it won't matter.

And they hung him for it. You can go romanticise it all you want.
Well, what came of it? They lost, youth got charged and India got independence.
Closest match based on eye witness accounts and cctv.

They will still have to prove he did it but I think he's incriminated himself already with his anti insurance manifesto.
Still it is “I think”, not “I know”.
 
In the US they don't like high taxes.
Still they fund the world's costliest research to get worst medical services in developed world ?
At the behest of world's most worst medical insurance scam.
As for murders, that is a crime definitely. So are police crimes against common man, mass shootings, etc. in that failed state which exports their burden on others. Compared to all these crimes, this one stands out for a reason. Otherwise, why does that country have more guns than blades of grass ? What is the purpose ? Their forefathers gave the rights to guns with a reason, correct ?
 
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Still they fund the world's costliest research to get worst medical services in developed world ?
At the behest of world's most worst medical insurance scam.
Their military budget is higher than the rest of the top 5 combined. And healthcare is non-existent.
As for murders, that is a crime definitely. So are police crimes against common man, mass shootings, etc. in that failed state which exports their burden on others. Compared to all these crimes, this one stands out for a reason.
US where murder is solved almost with half and half success rate, this one got so much resource. It is like a naked dance of how justice is for the privileged. Sign of a flawed democracy to say the least.
Otherwise, why does that country have more guns than blades of grass ? What is the purpose ? Their forefathers gave the rights to guns with a reason, correct ?

Well, John Locke said people had the right to overthrow a tyrannical government in his “right to revolution”.
 
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Lots of goal shifting response here. Insurance companies shouldn't decide what is necessary care or unilaterly decided not to pay for procedure/surgery.

European countries have more socialized health care and govt imposes more cost control.

Quote from one of my US based collegue "Endless nonsense process made to keep patient from getting benefit. A part of the problem is medical providers in US is also not open for public review. Lobbying is another factor in US health crisis. A big part of the problem is Conflict of interest among insurer and medical provider as well"

I was shocked when I first learned (college days) how the healthcare system works in western world compared to India where most of us afford healthcare without health insurance.

Among top 10 health insurance company, deny claim is highest for UHG. I'm not supporting the execution but I also don't have any sympathy for greedy CEOs.

Denial should be legitimate reason and should not include "it will impact our earning targets".

BTW in texas and medicaid is $8000k per year (which is also not covering critical illness) . Another plan is about 4k which only covers preventive measures.
 
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compared to India where most of us afford healthcare without health insurance.
Unfortunately, in last few years huge investment firms from usa is investing in India.
Business-politico lobbies from that country which is pushing ever-ready-to-be-corruptible politicians to increase medical costs in India, etc.
Our low cost medical facilities are not going to last long, the beast from there is already is prancing it's tentacles locally.
 
This is more of a corporate jargon put by UHG for investor and people.

Correct statement would be- "Our role is a critical role in making profit, and we make sure that PROFIT is UP, and is delivered when stakeholder need it, and I want 10% more bonus because of ongoing threat on CEO's"
 
In the US tax payer money creates the problem( chronic diseases, cancers, viruses etc) and also create the expensive drug and vaccines for problem they intentionally created. The same applies to the wars they start.
The same asset management company has its finger dipped in all of these companies including insurance companies.
 
Manifesto-
"To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
 
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Unfortunately we're adopting every bad influence/policy/culture from US and with such large population and without solid roadmap, we're doomed to fail.
In case if you are not aware, SBI account holders have been shoved into PMSBY and PMJJBY without account holder's approval.
Yeah, insurance is going to be quite a funny scenario. And that's what pisses me off. Since when did banks and insurance sectors started having unholy nexus without user's consent.
 
In the US tax payer money creates the problem
Unfortunately, the tax payers didn't opt to pay that much tax, neither have a chance to select which rules they should be ruled by.
Moreover, they don't have any control on what business-politico nexus can do with their tax$s.

@Kaleen Bhaiya
PMSBY: Pradhan Mantri Suraksha Bima Yojana (PMSBY) The scheme is a one year cover Personal Accident Insurance Scheme, renewable from year to year, offering protection against death or disability due to accident.
PMJJBY : In case of death due to any cause, the payment to the nominee will be ₹2 lakh. In order to avail of the benefits offered by the Pradhan Mantri Jeevan Jyoti Bima Yojana policy, it is mandatory to link your Aadhaar Card to the participatory bank account. PMBJJY is available to people between 18 and 50 years of age with bank accounts.

So strange, this opens a pandora box in multiple dimensions.
 
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PMSBY: Pradhan Mantri Suraksha Bima Yojana (PMSBY) The scheme is a one year cover Personal Accident Insurance Scheme, renewable from year to year, offering protection against death or disability due to accident.
PMJJBY : In case of death due to any cause, the payment to the nominee will be ₹2 lakh. In order to avail of the benefits offered by the Pradhan Mantri Jeevan Jyoti Bima Yojana policy, it is mandatory to link your Aadhaar Card to the participatory bank account. PMBJJY is available to people between 18 and 50 years of age with bank accounts.

So strange, this opens a pandora box in multiple dimensions.
I wouldn't have minded it, if someone from SBI asked my consent before going ahead. I only realised it when I got notified that amount x,y is deducted and I am enrolled in the respective schemes automatically.

As a custodian of my money, the customer needs to have all the information on what banks intend to do with my money and my bank account. I did check on the net for the scheme and it mentions " if user provided any consent to be added."

Point in this context is, banks are taking financial decisions on your behalf without informing you.
 
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Can't find anything wrong with this guy


He'd make a good member here going by his twitter posts. Yes, not joking

Nothing on politics

No rants about medical insurance
 
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