Budget 0-20k Upgrade old rig OR New Desktop?-Please advice.

Doremon

Doremon

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Hello Friends, I am lazy father who wish to convert old home PC into gaming/media PC to satisfy curiosity of his teenage son since last 6 months ( I'm really shameful). He is playing game like Transformer-4, Dragon-2, Spiderman based on movie time to time.

Well, yesterday my old rig (mentioned below) dead (CPU not responded) & technician says Motherboard failed & need to replace.

Since having this incident, may I have expert opinion whether I should sell whole crush & go for new Desktop or old rig can be effectively modified as requesting below: Budget-30 to 35k (for new desktop) 15k (for up gradation)

old PC configuration:-

•Processor = Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 (2.2 GHz) Box Proc. No idea whether to replace or keep as it is if going for gaming up gradation?
•Motherboard = Intel D945GCNL Original Mother Board ( Failed. Need to replace as technician says. But no idea what to do?!
•Chasis / SMPS = Micro ATX - Mini Tower Case, I ball, Pride model - Wish to keep as it is
•System Memory= 1 GB DDR2- Need to improve at least 4GB to run graphic card
•RAM-TranscandHard Drive= 250 GB SATA Wish to keep as it is
•Hard Drive - Seagate Optical Drive= 20x SATA •DVD Writer - LG - Wish to keep as it is
•Graphics= Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950- Need to replace to satisfy son's gaming curiosity
•Output= 19" Wide Screen LCD - Viewsonic- wish to keep as it is
•Audio =Creative 5.1 Ch. SBS 560/580 wish to keep as it is
* wired keyboard & mouse Need to replace by wireless keyboard and mouse
 
You're going to have to dump the old system. It is too old to upgrade. For a 30-35k budget you can get a decent system since you don't have to shell out for a monitor,

I would suggest something like this,

AMD FX 6300 (http://www.flipkart.com/amd-3-5-am3-fx-6-core-fx-6300-fd6300wmhkbox-processor/p/itmdz2whghfbfxnw) - 7400
ASUS M5A97 (http://www.flipkart.com/asus-m5a97-motherboard/p/itmd5ppvjzs6g5eu) - 7000
WD Blue 500gb (http://www.flipkart.com/wd-blue-500...rive-wd5000bpvt-wd5000lpvx/p/itmd5kd6kav9wdse) - 2789
Corsair Vengeance (1 x 4GB) RAM (http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-ven...gb-pc-ram-cmz4gx3m1a1600c9/p/itmd2rypbx4eehaf) - 3205
Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7770 (http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-hd-7770-1-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmd7tgzhnsn39yr) - 7500
Corsair VS550 550 Watt PSU (http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-vs550-550-watt-psu/p/itmdg36xx8yzgjrs) - 3006
Cooler Master Elite 311 Mid Tower (http://www.flipkart.com/cooler-master-elite-311-mid-tower-cabinet/p/itmd5xzy42kvyszt) - 2883

Total - 33783

I would suggest keep a wired mouse and keyboard as they will be better for gaming.
 
Thanks Crazy_Eddy and Blackend. I think there is confusion.

For purchasing NEW (company sealed-not assemble one) desktop - 30k
For upgrading old rig (my current home pc) - 15k

Well said that, I am trying to cut cost by other option below in RED INK to get your expert opinion. you may pl re-configure also considering 15k budget. Regretful on miscommunication.
Blackend said:
I would suggest something like this,

AMD FX 6300 (http://www.flipkart.com/amd-3-5-am3-fx-6-core-fx-6300-fd6300wmhkbox-processor/p/itmdz2whghfbfxnw) - 7400
Is Pentium G3220 (3.6k) or AMD FX 4300 (5.9k) considerable?

ASUS M5A97 (http://www.flipkart.com/asus-m5a97-motherboard/p/itmd5ppvjzs6g5eu) - 7000
How's Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 (3.2k) ?

WD Blue 500gb (http://www.flipkart.com/wd-blue-500...rive-wd5000bpvt-wd5000lpvx/p/itmd5kd6kav9wdse) - 2789
Considering old HDD-250GB instead, savings 2789rs.

Corsair Vengeance (1 x 4GB) RAM (http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-ven...gb-pc-ram-cmz4gx3m1a1600c9/p/itmd2rypbx4eehaf) - 3205
ok

Sapphire AMD/ATI HD 7770 (http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-hd-7770-1-gb-gddr5-graphics-card/p/itmd7tgzhnsn39yr) - 7500
R7 240 /250 1GB DDR5 at 5.3k or 6.3k?

Corsair VS550 550 Watt PSU (http://www.flipkart.com/corsair-vs550-550-watt-psu/p/itmdg36xx8yzgjrs) - 3006
ok.--->>>>>>
Crazy_Eddy said:
Get the S12II 430 instead (www.flipkart.com/seasonic-s12ii-430-watts-psu/p/itmd5xz5bzevdbzp?pid=PSUD5XZ4PQNBPMES).
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Cooler Master Elite 311 Mid Tower (http://www.flipkart.com/cooler-master-elite-311-mid-tower-cabinet/p/itmd5xzy42kvyszt) - 2883
Can't use my old cabinet I-ball pride?
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DVD writer-LG, Viewsonic 19" monitor, KB, Sound system & HDD are considering old one. Am I right?
 
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Ignore post, I just read this :-
Doremon said:
For purchasing NEW (company sealed-not assemble one) desktop - 30k
For upgrading old rig (my current home pc) - 15k
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Is Pentium G3220 (3.6k) or AMD FX 4300 (5.9k) considerable?
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G3220 should be ok. FX4300 not worth it.

How's Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 (3.2k) ?
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Not good. The cheapest decent boards for the FX 6300 would be the Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 or the Asus M5A78L-M/USB3. Below that you might face power issues with the VRM.

Considering old HDD-250GB instead, savings 2789rs.
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Any idea on the model number? How old is it? Did you verify that its in good condition i.e. no bad sectors etc?

Can't use my old cabinet I-ball pride?
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If it's in good condition, well ventilated and roomy, then sure. Graphics card + AMD FX will throw out quite a bit of heat.
 
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Crazy_Eddy said:
Pentium G2030 - 3355
Gigabyte H61M-S - 2850
4GB RAM - 2600
GT 730 (64-bit mem bus variant) - 4800
Antec VP450P - 2500
Total - 16105*
*prices may vary
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Crazy_Eddy
Almost final. Just yesterday came to know, my old rig having Brand-4d, Model-ATX-450W. Image attached.
Just reputing if I can reuse old PSU & can save Rs.2500/-
 

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Keep the speakers, hdd, monitor, keyboard & mouse . Dump the rest. You will build yourself a good gaming rig at 35K in today's market.
15K Mobo / Proccy + 10K GPU + 7K PSU & Case + 3K RAM
 
Dude go for the suggestions above. If you make some adjustments here and there now again it will be a pain for you in a year or two. So better get the major components upgraded and almost up-to-date to latest technology: proccy/mobo/ram/psu/gpu/cabby. You wont regret and esp. not your son who will be gaming.
 
Crazy_Eddy said:
Pentium G2030 - 3355
Gigabyte H61M-S - 2850
4GB RAM - 2600
GT 730 (64-bit mem bus variant) - 4800
Antec VP450P - 2500, 4 GB RAM
Total - 16105*
Hope there are no more surprises from your end :nailbiting:
*prices may vary
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Well, I tried hard not to deliver more surprises :pbut can't stop myself to quote below::)
G3220 + H81 M Ausus
GTX-750 @ 7k (waiting for festive offer)
PSU-old initially
Nikhil Pundlik said:
Keep the speakers, hdd, monitor, keyboard & mouse . Dump the rest. You will build yourself a good gaming rig at 35K in today's market.
15K Mobo / Proccy + 10K GPU + 7K PSU & Case + 3K RAM
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nRiTeCh said:
Dude go for the suggestions above. If you make some adjustments here and there now again it will be a pain for you in a year or two. So better get the major components upgraded and almost up-to-date to latest technology: proccy/mobo/ram/psu/gpu/cabby. You wont regret and esp. not your son who will be gaming.
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Righto! but brothers no budget. And sending 35k sounds too much just for gaming & general homage usages. Thanks.
 
Doremon said:
G3220 + H81 M Ausus
GTX-750 @ 7k (waiting for festive offer)
PSU-old initially
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The G3220+H81 combo is newer and preferred, but it's also more expensive. The GTX 750 should be good (if you get it for 7k).

But I would not risk it on that PSU. As per the ratings, it appears to be a 250W PSU, that is if those ratings are correct. Even if by luck the PSU does not go up in flames, there is no guarantee that it will not affect the lifespan of your devices.
There's another problem - it won't have a 24-pin ATX connector, and the additional 4 pins are for powering the PCIe slot for your GPU. No power for the GPU = no boot.
 
Crazy_Eddy said:
The G3220+H81 combo is newer and preferred, but it's also more expensive. The GTX 750 should be good (if you get it for 7k).
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No, its at par price to G2030-H61 combo.
Pentium G3220 - Rs 3150 (locally. check - http://costtocost.in/list/pricelist.pdf)
Gigabyte H81M-S1 - Rs. 3300 (3311 on flipkart right now)
Crazy_Eddy said:
But I would not risk it on that PSU. As per the ratings, it appears to be a 250W PSU, that is if those ratings are correct. Even if by luck the PSU does not go up in flames, there is no guarantee that it will not affect the lifespan of your devices.
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its 450w PSU. Photo attached again.
Crazy_Eddy said:
There's another problem - it won't have a 24-pin ATX connector, and the additional 4 pins are for powering the PCIe slot for your GPU. No power for the GPU = no boot.
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Hmm, no idea at all! Let me check with local technician
 

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^^I would second on suggestion for getting a better PSU. It is a very important component in whole build. Buying better one is like insuring your other parts of PC.

An 24 pin ATX cable looks like this

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4 pins on left are referred in earlier post.
 
Doremon said:
No, its at par price to G2030-H61 combo.
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Oh nice, the pricing is good.

Doremon said:
its 450w PSU. Photo attached again.
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PSUs these days have all their power concentrated on the 12V rail, because thats what most modern PCs use. A 450W PSU will have atleast 400W on the 12V rail.
The 12V rail in your '450W' PSU has only 22A ; 12V x 22A => 264W. Again this is just their rating on the sticker (no test conditions mentioned) which means it's usually exaggerated.

Doremon said:
Hmm, no idea at all! Let me check with local technician
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Pretty sure its 20 pin. Technicians might recommend connecting a 20 pin to 24 pin converter which is NOT recommended.
 
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